Priest: Catholics Who Voted For Obama Shouldn't Take Communion

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Posted: 1:43 PM Nov 17, 2008
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One Catholic priest is asking his parishioners not to take communion if they voted for Barack Obama for President.

Reverend Jay Scott Newman says the president-elect's pro-abortion stand is against the beliefs of the Catholic church and anyone who voted for him should not take the sacrament.

Reverend Newman says church law does not allow him to refuse communion to a parishioner but he believes Obama supporters should do penance because of their vote.

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Posted by: wr Location: nc on Dec 24, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Political correctness teaches us to be tolerant of sin. Being politically correct most of the time is biblically incorrect. The bible teaches us to be forgiving of the sinner. None of us is without sin but nothing can separate us from the love of God. I didn't vote for Obama but its time to quit complaining because we have a big job in restoring our economy. Pres. Obama needs all our prayers.

Posted by: Coach M Location: Rocky Mount on Dec 17, 2008 at 03:33 AM
Anonymous: You are VERY wrong. I voted for President-Elect Obama but I am strongly against abortion. I believe that it should be a person's choice and not the right of the government to dictate their beliefs. Just as God has given us a choice to ask for his forgiveness or not. JJ: We are ALL illegal alliens. The fact is that the only group of people that are not are the native Americans.

Posted by: Carolyn Location: New Bern on Nov 24, 2008 at 11:19 PM
To Mr.Newman make sure you tell all your priest who molested little boys over many years not to take communion either a sin is a sin remember that.You sound ignorant to me.You know yall catholic priest is well known for molestation.

Posted by: Mark Bossinger Location: naperville,il on Nov 21, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Catholic priests should worry about their own pedophile priest cover ups by the American Bishops, and stay out of politics, stop pushing parishoners away. Many Catholics are leaving to more loving Churches, because of this.

Posted by: Carl Location: Slicer on Nov 21, 2008 at 01:09 PM
I am not Catholic but I am a Christian. I do agree this Priest is doing his job. Carl Slicer, Vernon, CT

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:51 PM
To JJ-If you are not Catholic then mind your own business. I am Catholic and I agree with the Priest. This article only pertains to those that are Catholic. If you are going belong to a faith and claim to be Christian then that means living a Christian life 7 days a week and not just Sunday. I realize that no one is without sin but abortion is a deliberate mortal sin. Those Catholics that voted for Obama are also supporting abortion. You can't be a Christian and support abortion!! ABortion is against all things Godly!!!

Posted by: JJ Location: Kinston on Nov 20, 2008 at 05:00 PM
The Catholic Church needs to stop meddeling in politics period. They aid and abet illegal aliens; which is a violation of our federal law. They need to worry about their own perverts within the church, such as "child molesting" Priests and stop sticking their noses in everybody's business.

Posted by: Susan Fox Location: US on Nov 19, 2008 at 08:12 PM
But it's ok to support a war where millions of innocent civilians are murdered, because murder is ok by the Catholics? Stupid people can only see in black-and-white. In the real world, sometimes you go for least-harm, most benefit. God didn't make this world perfect nor task us to make it so. God did seem to have a thing against hypocrites though...

Posted by: Francis Location: Antioch Ca. on Nov 18, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Reverend Newman, Let He without sin cast the first stone.

Posted by: Tammi on Nov 18, 2008 at 03:33 PM
Good for the priest! The Vatican says that voting for a pro-abortion candidate causes automatic excommunication. A vote for abortion is vote for murder.

Posted by: Eagleman Location: Asheville on Nov 18, 2008 at 02:31 PM
Why waste your time reading these comments? It's obvious very few people have pure wisdom from God. They like to be that way - until a major crisis strikes! It is coming - best to be prepared - don't you think?

Posted by: Leslie Location: Pitt County on Nov 18, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Reading these comments, it seems that we are still campaigning in eastern North Carolina. Glad you folks have all this time to debate. Don't you think it's time to move on?

Posted by: Garth Location: Wayne's World on Nov 18, 2008 at 02:37 AM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Hey WITN, you sure he's catholic, he sounds like he's with the Assemblies of God.

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 17, 2008 at 09:18 PM
Why does it take over an hour for these comments to post?

Posted by: lavon Location: kinston on Nov 17, 2008 at 09:13 PM
No wonder your party lost 2 weeks ago, geesh!!! I feel sorry for republicans

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 17, 2008 at 08:56 PM
Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Nov 17, 2008 at 08:02 PM Hey Oh Boy Obama's tax plan will affect me because myself and probably you will benefit from a tax break. How is it that you rather see the rich get tax breaks but not the middle class. How is it that when the middle class is getting a tax break its welfare but when the rich has been getting tax breaks for 8 years its so righteous? Care to explain that? You mean to tell me that you don't want to keep some of your own money? You mean to tell me you want your tax money to go to the rich and not back in your own pockets? Are you that trained by government to the point you can't even think straight? Lavon, it is a shame that you are so confused by the words of a many poor souls. How is 36% tax on the "rich" compared to you getting all your money back and then some for having some children. First, take an equality class, then an economic class, and then a class on socialism or communism. It might open your mind.

Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Nov 17, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Hey Oh Boy Obama's tax plan will affect me because myself and probably you will benefit from a tax break. How is it that you rather see the rich get tax breaks but not the middle class. How is it that when the middle class is getting a tax break its welfare but when the rich has been getting tax breaks for 8 years its so righteous? Care to explain that? You mean to tell me that you don't want to keep some of your own money? You mean to tell me you want your tax money to go to the rich and not back in your own pockets? Are you that trained by government to the point you can't even think straight?

Posted by: lavon Location: kinston on Nov 17, 2008 at 07:57 PM
Hey Oh Boy someone is playing around with my name. I didn't post that. Someone is trying to be funny

Posted by: Boots on Nov 17, 2008 at 07:23 PM
To oh boy, Most birth certificates only list the parents race not child's race. Site with Obama's birth certificate below. http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate?source=source=sem-pm-fts-bc-search-us&gclid=CIuemtv0xZYCFQkiagodpjF-xQ

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 17, 2008 at 07:17 PM
The problem with Senator Obama is that he has already gone back on his platform. The other problem is that he reminds me of another President, the one that was a womanizer when he was a Governor and no one believed until towards the end of his second term. This President has already said that he passed into law some that he shouldn't have. We can only wait for this Senator to take office and find out the truth.

Posted by: oh boy Location: eastern NC on Nov 17, 2008 at 06:48 PM
To correct you Lavon, Obama is not black. He is bi-racial, a new term to put on the list of politically correct terms. Actually, since his mother was white, he is more white than black. I don't recall that anyone has seen a birth certificate yet, which would list him as the race of his mother. If you remember your science, the X chromosone (women have two)is more dominant than the Y (men only have one). This causes you to inherit more traits from the mother than the father. And, I do not believe your Obama will have the country out of this financial mess in 6 months. He's already saying things may not be accomplished in his first term. However, I do believe the financial mess for the majority of us will be worse when he begins his tax hikes. I doubt this will effect you though.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Ohio on Nov 17, 2008 at 06:16 PM
Obama is not pro-abortion. he is pro- choice. There is a big difference. The church is condemning Obama because he wants to allow people to actually excercice their free will? It's no wonder the Catholic Church is losing people in droves.

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 17, 2008 at 05:25 PM
And all you people complaining about the war, the democrats have been in office for almost 2 years and they have not done one thing. I thought that was the main reason they were voted into office. Amazing how liberals forget that little bit of information.

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 17, 2008 at 05:20 PM
So far you can not talk politics in church. What is next? If you go to church you can't vote. Even Rosie Odonnell complained about a Catholic on the Supreme Court. With this type of talk, their will be no more religion in the United States.

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 17, 2008 at 05:13 PM
Im starting to like Obama. Maybe I was wrong about him after all.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 17, 2008 at 05:00 PM
To JW-That's fine with being fed up with chuches, however this does not pertain to you then. This pertains to practicing Catholics. If you are Catholic then you know that abortion is a mortal sin and if you are supporting it, it is wrong. The Bishops have made it very clear that if you are voting for a President that supports it then so do you.

Posted by: Northeastern NC Location: Edenton on Nov 17, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Who are they to judge a person because of who they voted for??????

Posted by: Allen Location: Greenville on Nov 17, 2008 at 04:52 PM
How many deaths and wars has organized religion caused in the history of this planet? I beleive in a power greater than my self, but I also beleive in someone else's right to think differently than I do. I can think of more important things for the people of this country to argue about.

Posted by: Alex Location: Vanceboro on Nov 17, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Look the church says abortion is wrong. Don't like it, maybe God will change all of his rules to accomodate you. what a joke. if ya don't like what the church stands for don't go. don't ask the church to change for your convienience

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 17, 2008 at 03:55 PM
So, let me get this right, Obama is more important than what God wants you to do? So, who did you put first and who was second? Just, you are right, "their" interpretation is not what the founding fathers wanted, your version was.

Posted by: Just Location: Me on Nov 17, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Don't mistake separation of church and state as a two-way street. The protection is to keep the state from interfering with the church. The church has just as much right as you or I do to interfere with the state. That is how it should be!

Posted by: jw Location: MD on Nov 17, 2008 at 03:18 PM
We need to separate church and state and put a brick wall up between them. I'm completely fed up with the churches (all of them) interfering in politics.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: Greenville on Nov 17, 2008 at 03:06 PM
To Anonymous: Sure, you saw evidence of separation of church and state on Nov. 4th where churches were used for campaigning, voting and celebrating. Even on National TV (Capitalization implied) voters were televised in Houses of Worship. Obama fanatics said nothing of it then because it fit what they needed. Now the election is over your arguement is what? There is no separation of church and state; only protection from a state run church.

Posted by: Just Me Location: Midwest on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:59 PM
God gave man free will. Man uses that free will to either serve himself, serve man, or serve God. If I "choose" to follow God's law regarding abortion, I am serving God by free will. Suppose man outlaws abortion. If I follow man's law regarding abortion, am I really serving God? Or, am I serving man? What if I would "choose" abortion if it were legal? Am I any more noble just because the laws of man guided me to that "choice" against my free will?

Posted by: connie Location: pacific northwest on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:46 PM
I believe in separation of church and state, I do not support abortion, but I voted for Obama. And my conscience is clear. I thought that if that were the case then you take communion. How is this different from having a clear conscience over sending our men and women to kill in a war, or torture those in war camps? Are all others who may have lied, stolen, taken the Lord’s name in vain, worshipped at the feet of idols (money, power) coveted, committed adultery, molested a child, or served communion while currently committing any number of offenses OK? Should all these folks serve or partake?

Posted by: Jason Location: Maine on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:37 PM
Dwayne says: "Rev. Newman has made a bold and correct decision based upon the Bible. Whatever Obamaspin you want to put on it doesn't take away the validity of the Bible." Better check your bible again Dwayne--I believe you'll find that in Exodus 21:22-25 a clear distinction is made between a fetus and a person. Then we have this little gem from Psalm 137:9: Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Frankly, if you've even glanced at the bible (Old Testament, at least) you'd have to notice that it's not so much "pro life" as "pro death".

Posted by: Illuminati Location: PA on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:31 PM
Religion is a creeping poison upon American society.

Posted by: Wanda Location: Georgia on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:30 PM
The last time I checked in the Bible,it wasJesus who gave the command to take communion as often as possible. I did not see in the bible the conditions as listed by this priest. Can anyone advise me?

Posted by: james Location: wieghart on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:30 PM
Father Jay Scott Newman should be forbidden to say Mass and go on a bread and water fast for 30 days for injecting politics into religion. Father Newman is a classic example of why the American Catholic Church is losing parishioners. If it were not for the millions of Latino immigrants (God bless them)into the U. S. the number of American Catholics would have diminished by one-tahird over the past decade. The Church has lost its mission of following Christ's teaching and ministering to the distressed and needy instead of the dictates of a bunch of white Italian males who are out of touch with the word of God and the real world.

Posted by: Bishop Lewis Location: California on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Jesus and the Bible never say a word against abortion. The Catholics and fundamentalists have agreed to define an embryo as a human being, but not science the Supreme Court--which are correct, by the way. The Obama revolution is the best thing that has happened to America since Thomas Jefferson was elected President. Open your eyes, hearts, and minds and thank God for Obama!

Posted by: Gary Location: los angeles on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:25 PM
This is idiotic.No one has authority to decide whether I should take the communion or not. Reverend Newman forgive me because I have sined,I voted for Obama.Grow up!

Posted by: Ellis Daye Location: xtland on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:24 PM
People who follow silly religions are hopeless anyway. Who cares what they say/think/do?

Posted by: Carole Mortensen Location: Phoenix on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Thank God I am Baptist. Just because I am Pro-Choice does not make me Pro-Abortion. Do you support the war? I don't but if you voted the Republican ticket you voted for WAR..killing of innocents also. Repent for that too!

Posted by: Robby Location: Washington on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:23 PM
That seems pretty hipocritical to me. What about McCain's view on the War? Maybe you shouldn't take communion if you voted for McCain as well. Jesus instructed us to turn the other cheek. If you study the first century christian chuch you'll find that they were removed from politics. In fact, if you were a politician you had to find a new proffesion before being baptized into christ. Politics is worldy, hence give to ceasar what is ceasars. This does raise good question of, 'What are our boundries and convictions as a christian when presented with conflicts in our govenrment." I can't convince myself that this priest is in the right, however he is definitely overlooking a lot. I am certain that Jesus wouldn't have supported either canidate.

Posted by: G Location: TX on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:22 PM
A religious leader has religiously oriented beliefs!? Who knew! Anyone attending religious service at a Catholic Church should not be surprised to find that Catholic priests have Catholic beliefs. Further, they should not be surprised when they're asked to stick to the Vatican's belief system. I find that not being Catholic is the most effective way to disagree with Newman. Every religion has rules with which people disagree. If this were not the case, there would be far fewer choices on Sunday morning.

Posted by: RCharles Location: PA on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:22 PM
But the Bishop publicly criticized the priest for going too far. http://www.thestate.com/statewire/story/590279.html Friday, Nov. 14, 2008 SC diocese critical of priest's Obama comments. the bishop's key statement: "Christ gives us freedom to explore our own conscience and to make our own decisions while adhering to the law of God and the teachings of the faith," Laughlin wrote. "Therefore, if a person has formed his or her conscience well, he or she should not be denied Communion, nor be told to go to confession before receiving Communion." The church should stay out of politics. RCG

Posted by: Tom Location: Atlanta on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:21 PM
God is a choice.

Posted by: roy Location: NYC on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:21 PM
"stop looking for a way around God's word, and just accept it." This is the same logic that explains creationism. Why do we even give priests the time of day?

Posted by: Eileen Location: Detroit on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:20 PM
Sadly, even if Pres. Elect Obama has success with the economy -- cooperation with the killing of innocent humans is intrinsically evil. It’s a deal with the Devil to support abortion. Eileen Therese, Detroit.

Posted by: Equality Location: USA on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:20 PM
If churches-priests-rabbis-etc want to be involved with the political process, whether by campaign contributions, or other means(such as Rev Newman), then strip them of their tax exempt status. Separation of Church and State. Simple.

Posted by: Amy Ashurst Location: Wilmington, OH on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:19 PM
im a devoted catholic and first of all if you voted for barrack then thats your personal choice and should not affect the way you worship god. it shouldn't be made a big deal in the church. Also why should Obama supporters do penance because of their vote? that makes no sense. Communion is a way to bring jesus into your body by drinking the blood and taking the body, thats a good thing. If YOU really think that Obama is such a bad person then why don't you let people let jesus into their body and "cure" them.

Posted by: Jim Location: Maryland on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:18 PM
I disagree with Reverend Newman. What human has the authority to determine that Obama's sins are greater than McCain's?

Posted by: mspeppy Location: Princeton on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:18 PM
BTW Kavi - Newman is in danger of losing his church's tax exemption

Posted by: Maureen Location: Sonoma CA on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:17 PM
And I thought all the nuts were in San Francisco!

Posted by: kieth Location: tampa on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:16 PM
The church is supposed to be a sanctuary for ALL men, but it turns out to be a bigotry institution.... what's a shame.

Posted by: thoughtful on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:15 PM
It's funny how I've never seen a similar post for those who voted for Bush... I thought Catholics where also supposed to be against WAR. Typical hot button hypocrasy.

Posted by: Ed Location: NJ on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:13 PM
If you are basing your vote & future on a sole isuue (such as abortion) vote for a radical like Rev Al Sharpton... and let the rest of the issues be resolved by the "powers above"

Posted by: Barbara Location: Beulaville on Nov 17, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Judging huh? Who died and left them in charge? Like they have no sin in their life.

Posted by: Kavi Location: Davenport IA on Nov 17, 2008 at 01:58 PM
Btw, a priest does have the right to refuse communion to any parishioner if he thinks the reasons are grave enough - indeed, he has a responsibility to do so. If Fr. Newman believes otherwise, he is mistaken.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 17, 2008 at 01:56 PM
has anyone ever heard of the seperation of church and state! That is the way it's supose to be!!!!

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 17, 2008 at 01:17 PM
First, as some do not understand a "priest" and what he does. He doesn't have a family, only a holy one, he cannot marry. Secondly, he doesn't have a tradional "home" since he posses nothing and finally, he dedicates his life to god and bible. So, when he talks, he is not spewing but translating the views of the god and bible. All the priests I have known were very honorable, humble servants. Most are not child molesters and most live honest lives. The church is against abortion and makes its views very clear.

Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Nov 17, 2008 at 01:07 PM
Having a BLACK president is AWESOME!! Obama will have America out of its financial mess withing 6 months of taking office.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: Greenville on Nov 17, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Rev. Newman has made a bold and correct decision based upon the Bible. Whatever Obamaspin you want to put on it doesn't take away the validity of the Bible.

Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Look when it comes to churches and priest don't ever be a follower of man. Always follow whats in the bible. I could care less about what some worthless priest and minister spewing their political views. I bet if you could be a fly on the wall in some of these priests home you would see and hear stuff you would have never thought they would say and do.

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM
To me, sorry, I am Orthodox Catholic and we cannot be resolved or forgiven for mortal sins. Great deterent. The Roman Catholic is a little more loose on that one.

Posted by: Catholic Location: Greenville on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Thank you Obama Snake Oil. I don't understand Christians that pass judgment on other religions. We are all working towards the same goal. I was baptized in a Baptist church but 12 yrs later I converted to Catholicism. I had to go through 9 months of classes before I was confirmed into the Church. It really helped me learn about the Church.It's a beautiful religion. Also, we do not ask a Priest for forgiveness, we also ask God. You really should not pass judgment on things that you really know nothing about. Believe me I go to my knees every night asking for help, guidance, and forgiveness. I go to confession as well. Passing ignorant judgments on a whole Church is wrong. I am sure there is some corrupt behavior taking place in a Southern Baptist church somewhere as well. I don't agree with the Holy Rollers that think only their church is the right church.

Posted by: To Snake Oil on Nov 17, 2008 at 10:53 AM
In the Catholic Church there are two types of sins, venial and MORTAL. If you commit a mortal sin and you die before being absolved of the sin the church says you automatically go to hell. All sins are forgiven by the church (I guess except for suicide---think about it). You should not speak about what you don't know.

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Hey Southern Baptist, while I agree with it may hurt the church, they have a doctrine that governs right or wrong no mater what. Anotherwords, doctrine doesn't change at the conveinence or whelms of the congregation. They don't care about political correctness either. The reason for annulment is to try to save the marriage first where some couples just spit and let it be done. I know that there is some corruption in the church but remember, its the largest church in the world. He who is without sin... Their doctrine is prolife for the unborn and not the criminal. Remember eye for an eye? Just think, there are some sins there is no penance for. They call them motal sins. If you take a life for example, its pretty much done for you. War is an exception. Keep in mind that in Iraq we are liberators. Some on these posts claim, illegal war, Bushs war, they get a 2 for lack of education on the facts. Trust me, its yours and mine.

Posted by: duck Location: NC on Nov 17, 2008 at 10:18 AM
whether or not President elect is for or against, it is still up to the individual in determining or deciding what they want to do with their own bodies. It is that person, not the President elect that is doing it.

Posted by: Southern Baptist on Nov 16, 2008 at 08:36 PM
In my opinion, the Catholic Church is hurting themselves. They will probably loose alot of members, possibly even split. In my opinion The catholic Church has some weird "doctrines". I mean come on, they say they don't believe in divorce, but oh, it's ok to go get an annulment after 40 years of marriage, 5 children, and 10 great grand children. Come one get real. And to have to ask "a father" for forgiveness in the confessional? That's what the altar of prayer is for, and I can ask God for forgiveness, I don't have to ask someone else to do it for me. These same people that are in the catholic church, run organized crime rings. The list goes on.........

Posted by: d Location: abnc on Nov 16, 2008 at 06:50 PM
sounds like the "reverend" is starting up his own "CULT"

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 16, 2008 at 06:17 PM
"Well it IS Sunday", I assume that you are "hahaha". I fully agree with your post at 4:13 PM. I just wanted to make sure that we were on the same terms. God is not pro-abortion, and neither am I. However, as you agree, God evidently is pro-choice, and so am I. Some people seem to be incapable of distinguishing the difference. I did bring up the case of miscarriages, and the fact that in the medical world, they are referred to as spontaneous abortions. However, I believe that God knows best. Sometimes expecting mothers have miscarriages because they perform actions hazardous to their health and the health of the developing fetuses. Other times, expecting mothers have miscarriages due to some type of hematological or other health disorder. In all cases, God has the best interest of all involved at heart. He chooses to allow some addicted babies to be born and others, He chooses to prevent from coming into the world. Once again, God knows best!

Posted by: well it IS sunday... Location: from hahaha on Nov 16, 2008 at 04:13 PM
dear blog refuter, i guess you could say that in a way (I believe and dont presume to know) that God is 'pro choice' but not 'pro sin'. he allowed adam and eve to have choice in the garden, right? he could have prevented them from that fatal mistake but did not, because He wanted it to be their choice to love and follow Him. I dont see how God could be pro abortion...someone maybe you compared abortion to miscarriage--well 'born' people die too but murder is still wrong. I believe that everything that happens in the world is already KNOWN by God,( as I believe he can see past, present, and future all at once), but maybe not so much that He wants it to happen. however you take that, i do not suggest that God is futile, i believe that He is all powerful and all knowing--but has allowed his earthly creation to make their own decisions. Think about it, you can force someone to obey you and act like they love you, but you cant force someone to WANT to obey you and to love you.

Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Nov 16, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Boy we really need the clinton years back, those were the good ole days

Posted by: TO LAVON Location: Eastern NC on Nov 16, 2008 at 02:00 PM
I have reviewed Obama's tax plan----its even on the internet, Just in case you want to look. Explain to me in YOUR words, what Obama's plan is. It appears that there will be NO change, as he is seeking cabinet members from the Clinton administration. Do you remember the tax INCREASE we got?? Or maybe you were TOO YOUNG to understand.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 16, 2008 at 12:46 PM
"hahaha", after closer examination of your post, I have found a few points of inquiry. You said, "God gives people choice". While I agree, I must question your statement by asking, do you believe that God is "pro-choice" on abortion as well? You also said, "Just because something is against God's Word, doesn't mean it won't or can't happen". Do you agree that everything that happens is in God's will, however? And if something is in God's will, then it must not be against His Word. Otherwise, you are suggesting that God is futile.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 16, 2008 at 12:28 PM
"hahaha", I'm glad that you see me as hilarious. I do have a good sense of humor. Someone has to make light of the situation when everyone is so tense...I love to laugh and enjoy thinking of witty comments to post on my breaks. :)

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 16, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I sure have heard of the devil. And there are many amongst us. Some may be your friends. Some may be your family members. Some may be your enemies. You better watch out!

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 16, 2008 at 08:57 AM
Blog Refuter Have you people ever heard of the devil. And to the people talking about money and taxes. So if I only make 36,000 and you make 60,000 then the person that makes 60,000 should give me some of his money. Why should he be able to buy the bigger house and car. Go Obama, give me his money too.

Posted by: lavon Location: kinston on Nov 16, 2008 at 08:34 AM
You know this notion that Obama is going to give rich peoples money to welfare and people that sit home on their butts is just foolish. Why do you keep making up all these lies about Obama's plan. Obama has no intention of giving welfare people anything. Show me anywhere in his tax plan where it says this. His tax plan is going to benefit people who work for a living. Let me explain something to you. You can fuss and argue all you want about your tax money but when the government take taxes out of your check, no matter where it goes you will never see that money again, Never!! It doesn't matter where it goes but you will never see it again a day in your life. Why haven't you been throwing a fit while Bush has been wasting 100's of billions of your tax dollars in Iraq? It's funny you haven't mentioned that. Stop making up lies about Obama's plan for America!!!

Posted by: hahaha Location: hahaha on Nov 16, 2008 at 08:25 AM
blog refuter you are hilarious!!! neither candidate was the right one so i dont think God favors democrats OR republicans...i think what the catholic priest wanted to say is the democrat supported the things catholics think are wrong. they have every right to believe what they do. God didnt make obama win, people voted him in. God gives people choice. just because something is against God's word, doesnt mean it wont or cant happen.

Posted by: va-nc Location: va on Nov 16, 2008 at 08:16 AM
no lavon it is not like that,the roads are paved the grass is cut twice a month have a small playground for little ones and a basketball court. i did this ,i said what would i want if i lived here .any tenant over 60 will not have a bill in dec .due to christmas.any child under 10 will have a present under the tree ,i see to that. i also give back in other ways ,to many to post but i do help,now this is sunday praise the LORD in your way i will in mine.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 16, 2008 at 01:37 AM
You know, I just thought of something. If the priest prayed to God for McCain to win the election, God did not honor his request, so why should his congregation honor his request? If the priest prayed to God for the candidate after his own heart (as a good shepherd would) to win the election, then what if God answered and the priest is too blind to realize? Then, the people still should not follow the advice of the priest for he is not worthy of being a leader. I personally prayed for God to get corruption out of our government. Look what happened. Obama, Perdue, and Hagan won! Contrary to popular belief, God must favor the Democrats! As John Newton said, "I once was blind, but now I see." Hopefully, one day the priest will be able to sing this song genuinely. God bless you all!

Posted by: C Location: Greenville, NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Posted by: Ward Location: Detroit on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:07 AM Catholic church should stay out of politics and stay with what they do best. Religion and politics don't mix. ------------------------------------------- I totally agree and to add to what you've said, the Catholic Church should clean up it's act. They didn't deal well with the acts of those priests who molested children, but instead tried to cover it up. And what confuses me is why do people need to repent? Do I need to repent since I voted for Bush (who McCain supported 90% of the time) in 2004? Bush along with his sidekick McCain agreed to the immoral behavior at Guantanamo Bay. They haven't spoke up against those acts or the acts of those priest. Nor have they spoke up against the great divide amongst the rich and the poor in this country. Give me a break. I thank God I read the Bible for myself. I guess one of my pet peeves is those who take PARTS of the Bible for their own convenience.

Posted by: Matt Location: NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM
WITN: If you don't post my comments that's fine. You reserve that right. But, understand this. You can't stop me from preaching the truth to others. I will now make it my goal to do just that. Your station is biased and you will one day pay for it.

Posted by: Kathy Location: Goldsboro,N.C. on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:43 PM
Newby... If you love your neighbor as yourself it doesn't mean you have to give them your hard earned money you worked for while they sit at home and do nothing!If you would read your Bible it also saids that if you don't work you don't eat! Oh... ??? I agree with you completely!!!

Posted by: va-nc Location: va on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:41 PM
to all read my post ,am i right ,this is the way it will happen,just making a point/ i do not like anymore than you

Posted by: lavon Location: kinston on Nov 15, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Hey va-nc im not foaming at the mouth at all. You making 450,000 a year doesn't make you any more man than I am. As a matter of fact I bet you go to bed with many more headaches at night with a 450,000 income than I do with my 60,000 income. Now look at you complaining about union workers pay and here you are making 4 times what a union worker bring home. I guess you think no one can make money but you ha? I can bet any amount of money that you like many other slum landlords don't even keep up maintenance on your properties. Your probably one of those landlords that let sewage runoff in ditches in the back of your trailor lots and never come around to fix anything until it's time to collect rent. Ha Ha HA!!

Posted by: ??? Location: NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 07:11 PM
These people should leave the church since they are now Obama cult members.

Posted by: ??? Location: NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 07:06 PM
These people not only should not be allowed to take communion, they should be expelled from the church.Every idiopt that voted for Obama is just as guilty of the murder of innocent babies as he is.They know what he stood for but they didnt care. They just saw that he is black.

Posted by: White person Location: eastern nc on Nov 15, 2008 at 07:05 PM
So---I am going to be taxed on everything I DO and WORK for, for people who get better jobs than me simply because of race---I have to look for another job, simply to support my family and others??? While I see the families ahead of me with $400 of food to pull out an assistance card. How can this person drive an SUV and get $400 worth of groceries weekly? Yet people on this blog have time to sit and read the OPINIONs of others---WOW--must be nice having all this time to read this stuff. And the criticism of churches---I don't know how you can criticize what goes on there, if you have NEVER been, and for those of you casting the "stones" at church members--they at least are making an effort to "change" themselves. See-I can use an Obama word too!!

Posted by: proud grandmama Location: plymouth nc on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:33 PM
on november 4th 2008 history was made in this great country. President elected Obama swept this country with votes from all races. this ecomony is in a mess, peoples are losing jobs, homes, savings and the list goes on. I proudly voted for president elected obama not because he is a black man but because he is the right man. he will do what is right but it won't be a quick fix for this economy. he is the president elected and with that i am thankful.

Posted by: columbia Location: nc on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:06 PM
obama also supports partial birth abortion!! Do you have any idea what that means?? and why didnt my last post get on????

Posted by: SAVE ALL BABIES Location: NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:01 PM
Yes, he should have publicly endorsed him if he supported him. After all, it was his father's famous dream that Obama has achieved for all people of color right? But maybe because of his religious views and just becoming a father of a new baby himself this year, he might have felt a uneasy knowing this man Obama supported depriving medical attention to victims of partial birth abortions. His father was for non-violence and last time I checked murder is violence.

Posted by: Thomas Location: NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 05:29 PM
I actually read quite a bit, Tad. Christ also taught that we should be like-minded, and have compassion for one another, not to save up 'treasures' but give what we have to the poor to follow him. We could go back and forth, trading scriptures, for quite a while on this issue, but that would be fruitless. For centuries, men with much better minds than mine, have tried to reconcile the inconsistencies in the Bible. Can we agree though that Christianity is suppose to be a religion of faith, hope and love? My view is that 'the church' lost that focus long ago. Also, I am not a socialist as you infer. I believe fiercely in individual rights (for all) and in a free market system. Unfortunately, because of the corrupt abuse of power of some in the markets, things have gone awry. I voted for Obama because I think he is pragmatic and intelligent, and will approach issues such as this with greater clarity than his former opponent. Careful - oppression of free thought comes from many camps.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 04:58 PM
Miscarriages are still common in the modern world. What are they called? Spontaneous abortions. Do you curse God on the abortion issue??? Just something to think about.

Posted by: va-nc Location: va on Nov 15, 2008 at 04:14 PM
it looks like you don't get it lavon. i will not pay the higher taxes ,people like you will by everything you buy and the services we promote and you got the bush tax cut also..THE bussiness have a bottom line to keep, either raise prices or cut jobs, some will do both ,wait till 09 you have not seen the layoffs yet.as for the tenants ,they are moving in/ lose a home need a lot to put a trailer on. I THANK people like you putting obama in cause you gave me a raise in income that no tax hike will get! you see i can put my money in places you cannot! oh the tone of your post you must be FOAMING at the mouth ! anybody else want to chime in and tell me i am right, as for the auto co, the union workers should take a cut ,they make more money than the people they want to buy their cars ,$2500. comes from every car to pay for retire and med . LAVON HAVE A NICE DAY!!!

Posted by: to va nc Location: thank goodness not his lot on Nov 15, 2008 at 03:54 PM
i wouldnt be bragging about your greedy plan of passing on the higher cost to your rentals if taxes are raised. shame on you for sounding so smug about sticking it to the poor souls who have to pay you to have a roof over their head. people who live in trailer parks usually dont have extra funds laying around--and here you almost sound like your laughing about it. you probably are because you know theyre stuck. do you sleep at night or take the pills?

Posted by: columbia Location: nc on Nov 15, 2008 at 03:23 PM
I haven't read anything about obama's supporting partial birth abortion. That is when in the 3rd trimester the baby is partially born , then the dr. punctures the baby's head at the base of the skull and sucks the brains out , the head collapses then the baby is born. Do you think that is ok??

Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Nov 15, 2008 at 02:37 PM
Hey va-nc. Its funny you want to mention yourself but care nothing about the rest of America. George Bush gave you a tax cut so you could buy that 4th or 5th car or maybe you can own that extra spot down at the coast. While your endulging in your tax cuts middle america has been carrying your burden for eight years, george bush gave you a tax break and snubbed his nose to the rest of America. Now your seeing the results of his tax breaks for YOU!! Through this disastrous economy. The tax break that Bush gave you did not filter down to middle America like it should have, you know where your tax break went? It went straight to your bank account while the rest of america paid for your tax break. Well guess what it's time for you to pay the piper buddy so get ready because your free ride is over. As for your lot rentals I hope the tenants pick up and move somewhere else.

Posted by: TO save all the babies on Nov 15, 2008 at 02:33 PM
If MLK III did in fact support & voted for Obama, WHY should have he publicly endorsed him? It was and still is none of our business who he voted for.

Posted by: catholics Location: r ok on Nov 15, 2008 at 01:47 PM
when are people going to learn not to impute beliefs on other people? eveyrone imputes their beliefs on others whether they mean to or not. theres no such thing as believing in nothing. i mean you can say that, but really youd have to be in a vegetative state for it to be true. in a sense you can say all the pro abortion folks are imputing their beliefs on others. just because a belief isnt POPULAR doesnt mean its wrong or that it shouldnt be spoken. if youre a catholic then you take a stand with what your religion believes in..or youre not a catholic. you shouldnt be offended otherwise. as for viewing abortion as a health issue versus a moral issue, thats just ignorant. everyone knows that an abortion ends the life of an unborn human being (if not you should get out a science book), and having the right to decide if or when its ethical is certainly a moral issue. and i think the point of using this issue (which will never be changed so dont fool yourself) is to divide us

Posted by: save all the babies Location: nc on Nov 15, 2008 at 01:14 PM
I still believe that MLK III didn't endorse Obama because he believed that his father wouldn't have either because his father MLK Jr. was first a man of GOD and not a man of color.

Posted by: bursting lavon's bubble Location: nc on Nov 15, 2008 at 01:08 PM
There is litigation still out there about Obama's birth certificate. It ain't over til its over.

Posted by: Dale Location: New Jersey on Nov 15, 2008 at 12:06 PM
When are people going to learn to not impute their beliefs on other people? Obama is not "pro" abortion, he just views it as a health issue, not a moral issue. People have always had and will always have abortions whether legal or not. As a Catholic, I wouldn't have an abortion, however, I can't tell someone of another faith what to do with their body. Also, as a Catholic I can't responsiblity vote for one candidate or another on one single issue. I had to weigh the state of the union, and it's a disaster. Is it right that the current administration illegally went to war and thousands of innocent people have died? If you voted for McCain and you are Catholic, should not take communion because he supported continuing to kill innocent people in an illegal war?

Posted by: Ward Location: Detroit on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Catholic church should stay out of politics and stay with what they do best. Religion and politics don't mix.

Posted by: va-nc Location: va on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:02 AM
lavon it looks like you have a BLACK THING ISSUE,it is not his color it his his moral issues ,his relationship to thugs and hudlums,and wanting to take the rewards away from hard working people that have achived the american dream! i do not mind giving a handup to those who need it. but i do mind giving handouts to those that don't!! like i said once i used to live in NC now i don't ,but i have people there. i made over $450.000 this year so far,and i can remember when i didn't have $2.00 to my name,hard work will get you there! now my taxes will go up under obama's plan,think about it everything we buy now have a tax on it look at your phone bill it has 5-6 taxes on it .like i said the rich will pass it down to YOU, i own 250 trailer lots ,when my taxes goes up my lot rent will go up ,I WILL NOT be paying the higher tax my renters will just like all other will do ! the middle and poor class will pay the tax increase not the rich, he gives a 1000, back,a 10% hike in prices takes it

Posted by: gimme somethin to believe in! Location: f on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:29 AM
i would like to agree with jay. i think politicians use these key issues to divide and conquer the country. so we dont get to vote for someone we 'can believe in' we have to vote for whoevers not the worst candidate.

Posted by: our right Location: g on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:21 AM
hey all of you getting angry at people who believe in God and think abortion is wrong? its OUR RIGHT to feel this way so get over it! its not against the law YET to have Christian values. we have just as much right to believe what we do as you have in believing what you do, whether its popular or not. i dont understand why there is such controversy...this is america we have religious freedoms. if you want to be part of a religion such as catholicism (dont know how to spell that one), then be a part of it and follow the rules. if you dont wish to be a catholic, you dont have to be. this is america and no one is making you. while i believe abortion is wrong and can give you many reasons why if asked, and i feel that voting for a president who will help to further demoralize the country is wrong...i respect that others may have different opinions. theyre wrong opinions but i respect them all the same.

Posted by: Mike Location: Greenville on Nov 15, 2008 at 08:44 AM
"Blog Refuter"-the Catholic Church does make a distinction between venial and mortal sins.

Posted by: Kathy Location: Goldsboro,N.C. on Nov 15, 2008 at 08:13 AM
Anyone who goes against God's word and that is the Bible is wrong!! You cannot compare an abortion to the death penalty! A baby never hurt or did anything wrong! People on death row are killers, usually in a brutal way! How dare you compare the two! Now that is really STUPID!!!!

Posted by: Devil Dog Location: New Bern on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:03 AM
Instead of bickering about this issue, you better take notice to the secular progressive movement out west and heading east. Violence has erupted and it will get worse. This outfit/cult/loons/anti-christ anarchists belong to the far left fringe of the Democratic Party. OBAMA will solve it????

Posted by: Lavon Location: KInston on Nov 15, 2008 at 04:39 AM
So Matt when is all this "were going to lose our freedom crap" suppose to happen? I love Obama, This is my country and Im not going anywhere. How you like that?? You still haven't got over the fact that you have a black president have you? It's eating you alive isn't it?

Posted by: Jay Location: ENC on Nov 15, 2008 at 04:13 AM
"...You will get your easy life now and all of your freedoms will be slowly taken away." As opposed to the Republicans, where they are quickly taken away? "And to think most would say they wouldn't trade their soul for a dollar but oh so many have." Don't look now, but that sounds like a poster for the Republican party! Look - here's the difference in our Democrat & Republican leadership. Democrats will take your money, saying it's for a good/necessary cause, and overspend....and it's never enough so they keep coming back for more. Republicans will just take your money, and lie about what it's for, the whole time spending it on causes that support their own wealth & that of their cronies. The net effect is they're stuffing it in their own pockets, & lying to you the whole time about where it's going. So, it all comes down to having either extravagant leeches, or lying thieves at the helm. Pick the lesser of 2 evils - that's our whole political system!

Posted by: Tad Location: Jamesville on Nov 15, 2008 at 01:16 AM
Blog Refluter, people who have accepted Christ feel convicted by sin and try to avoid it, not justify it. To know something is a sin, think about it, then go through with the act anyway, is "freely sining". Maybe you should read up, stop looking for a way around God's word, and just accept it. Keep fluting.

Posted by: Tad Location: Jamesville on Nov 15, 2008 at 01:07 AM
Thomas, no he wasn't. That's just something socialists who don't really know much about the Bible say to try to get a rise out of Christians. Socialism cannot be squared with God's word because God said slothfulness is sin. Socialism causes slothfulness and therefore Jesus could not have been a socialist. Read a little Thomas. The collectivism and forced sharing you and the "one" are so fond of has caused much suffering in the world. Famine, disease and oppression of free thought have resulted from your ideas being put into practice around the world. Christ taught that people should live by their own effort, not someone else's.

Posted by: terrence Location: ec on Nov 15, 2008 at 12:43 AM
is this priest saying the same this about the catholic priest that mess with little boys?

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM
We people who voted for Obama were not looking for an easy life. Nothing in academia and the professional world is easy. However, we do believe that everyone deserves a chance. We realize that everyone is not set out on equal footing due to differences in family income, neighborhood environment, quality of schools, and sadly, yet truly, race. This is not to say that modern-day inequalities yield solely from discrimination practices of today since we have many measures in place to prevent that from happening, but it is to say that many minorities, as well as some whites, are still at a disadvantage. As for "Matt", who said that anyone who voted for Obama shouldn't live here, are you talking about in Eastern North Carolina, the whole state of North Carolina, or the United States in general? Let the truth be told, the state of North Carolina, the United States, and the world would be at a disadvantage without us. We are doctors, educators, lawyers, service workers, business people, etc.

Posted by: John W. Location: greenville,nc on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Amen!! I agree!!

Posted by: John W. Location: greenville,nc on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:39 PM
AMEN!!

Posted by: Matt Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Anyone who voted for obama shouldn't live here. You will get your easy life now and all of your freedoms will be slowly taken away. And to think most would say they wouldn't trade their soul for a dollar but oh so many have. Enjoy.

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Belle, have we killed over 40 million death row inmates since abortion has been legalized? No we haven't. Pro-choice is just another name for abortion just as a fetus is another name for an unborn baby.

Posted by: N Location: greenville on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:37 PM
All the ones who are judging others who have decided to be pro-choice when it comes to abortion should not be condemned. You are giving the right for a woman to choose, you never know what you would do unless you are in that position. So to say I would never have an abortion, then lets just hope that you never are put a position where you have to or even decide who gets to live your or the baby. That is why pro-choice gives women options, now if you are only having an abortion for a form of birth control then that is wrong, but in the end God is the one who does the forgiving not people posting on this blog.

Posted by: Thomas Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:29 PM
Tad, BTW, I forgot to mention. Jesus was a socialist.

Posted by: well Location: he has a point on Nov 14, 2008 at 07:59 PM
obama is for many of the things catholics are against, so why wouldnt they say this? im not catholic, but i couldnt vote for obama because he is for the things i know in God's word to be wrong. i wanted to vote for obama, and was going to, but conviction got the better of me. looks like it didnt matter anyways!

Posted by: Belle Location: Winterville on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:50 PM
Walter, I understand that Pro-life is Pro-life. I find it curious that this priest is calling for people who voted for Obama to repent, but not for people who voted for McCain, a death penalty proponent. I'm Catholic and I voted for McCain, but I find this priest to be hypocritical on this issue. The Catholic church preaches respect for life from natural conception to natural death. Neither candidates' platform supported the Catholic Church's Pro-Life stance, so why single one out? And, Anonymous, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so why bring it up?

Posted by: Robert on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:41 PM
I am a lifelong Catholic and here is my question- Did every priest who molested a young child confess prior to distributing communion?

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:39 PM
Some of you "Biblical experts" need to read up on your scriptures. Sin is sin. No sin is greater than the other. The only sin that will not be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. That is not to say that people should freely sin, but it is to say that man should not change the Word of God. You have a choice to make. You either live by the law or live by grace. You cannot flip-flop. It's amazing how people use religion for personal gains/satisfaction. That my friend, is wicked.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:32 PM
"Thomas", I can tell that you are well-versed. Good job!

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:29 PM
"Newby", I love it. Some of them are just a bunch of self-righteous people who are in no better spiritual condition than the masses.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:26 PM
Thank you, "Carol." It was very wicked of this priest to point out Obama individually. For now on, I will refer to him as Cohen ha-rasha (Hebrew for the Wicked Priest).

Posted by: Catholic Girl on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:25 PM
Father Newman needs to take his lead from Pope Benedict and keep his political views separate from his religious views. My reasons for taking communion are between me and GOD and no one else has the right to dictate anything else. Pennance is given for sins committed and last I checked voting for a political candidate of one's private choice was not a sin. I think Father Newman needs to go back to the seminary and relearn his lessons.

Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Nov 14, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Thats why I've always said that most of these churches now a days are just crap.

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 14, 2008 at 05:56 PM
Anonymous, I am orthodox catholic. My religion is even more strict than the Roman Catholic church. You made my point with better clarity. I think Walter does even more to say more about why our church tells us what to do. Some women think it is their right to kill a baby while the church goes on record telling us we will loose our soul to you know who. Sunday is not a convienence, its an obligation. We are also expected to live by our teaching and not just do it for Sunday. Belle, last year I did the same. I will not go into a store that doesn't acknowledge Christmas period. Those that have a problem do whatever, I live my life with "some" religious values. One happens to be the birth of Christ. Sorry if this offends you. Change?, as long as it doesn't go against my thousands of years religious belief, Obama does. I will recieve the eucharist this Sunday, with pride, what about all you other Catholics?

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 14, 2008 at 05:10 PM
If you're not Catholic, stay out of it! I am Catholic, a pro-lifer, and I voted for McCain. I have no problem with what this priest has said. If you're voting for a poltician that is supporting abortion then so are you. I believe he is only looking out for them by saying they need to repent before taking eucharist. Most of you are not Catholic and do not know what you are talking about. It's funny how people like Belle, are saying that the war is wrong now but the day after 09/11/01 we wanted justice. Also, you all think that Obama is going to help out the poor. I think it's funny how he says "I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper" however he has aunt living here illegally and a brother that is so poor, and he doesn't help them out. He is going to help himself to our fortunes. It makes me sick that America is so blind!!!

Posted by: Walter Location: Jacksonville on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:58 PM
Belle, Pro-Life is Pro-Life. Check out alot of the prisons and the ministries that go there. I am sure you will find some that are Catholic. At least the person on death row can appeal the verdict and tie things up in court. An unborn baby has only 9 months for any such appeal. The amazing thing is that the one on death row probably could not be helped, but we will never know the potential of the unborn.

Posted by: Belle Location: Winterville on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:47 PM
To "Mad"-please explain why as "Christians" we should be upset with stores for NOT exploiting Christmas any more than they already do. It is truly sinful how commercialized Christmas has become, and now I'm supposed to be upset because stores aren't commercializing Christmas ENOUGH? Unreal.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:40 PM
this is what i do not understand ,a pastor teaches what the bible says,it is law do not break GODS law -all about abortion,gays marriage and no other god before me ,but a lot of black churches had obama signs in the yards, what does that tell you ,

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:31 PM
this is simple ,if we were not at war and the eco in the dumps obama would not have got a second look,

Posted by: Belle Location: Winterville on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:25 PM
What about people who voted for Bush? He is pro-death penalty and started an illegal war which has resulted in tens of thousands of deaths? Shouldn't the Pro-Life Catholic Church also require penance for members who voted for Bush?

Posted by: mad Location: earth on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:25 PM
it may not be the christain way BUT it is time for all christians to stand up and stop turning the other cheek, this christmas if a store does not promote christmas instead say holiday ,my money will not be spent there !! it is CHRISTMAS DAY , not holiday day !!!

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:24 PM
Thomas, you are correct on the history of the catholic church but to correct my statement again. All priest are against abortion. Not some, most a few, all. The Pope reiterated this point many times. The bible is very specific on "what not to do" and doesn't say you will be forgiven for anything. Like commandments, these are not options to take litely. It is in writing. Diane, bush's war? Maybe you hadn't heard, we have not been attacked on US soil because of Bush's war. Guess that makes it our war. I am pretty sure Bush doesn't kill babies, stop looking at propaganda and spin. By the way, soldiers are "volunteers" not draftees. Again, catholics don't believe in abortion period. Not in any case. Its what the church teaches, be responsible. I think it has to do with that book, the bible, the Pope says so since that same book says "that".

Posted by: Newby Location: Eastern NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Go Kristy! There are 10 commandments. So how is it that only one commandment is considered when voting for president. If you love thy neighbor as you love thyself, wouldn't that mean caring for the poor, which the democrats are more likely to do. The Catholic church and Republicians are nothing more than Pharisees. By the way it was the Pharisees who ordered the death of Jesus!

Posted by: Kristy Location: Greenville on Nov 14, 2008 at 03:37 PM
What ever happened to the whole idea of loving your neighbor and leaving the judgement to God? It isn't up to us to judge and condemn each other--that only leads to more hate.

Posted by: Carol Location: Atlanta on Nov 14, 2008 at 03:34 PM
So there are no other pro-choice Democrats serving in office? Does this priest take the same stance on all pro-choice politicians or was it just Obama?

Posted by: Thomas Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 03:20 PM
To Tad,OBS and others: The Catholic church is not 'one of the oldest churches in the world', it was the only Christian church until the Reformation in the 16th century. Saying 'the church' means all of Christianity. If you want to talk about standards and church doctrine, pick up a history book and read about it. Look up things like the Inquisitions, or the Crusades, or the early Father's notions about women. Most people quoting the Bible today have no idea how that Canon was even put together. Tad, I strive to follow the teachings of Christ by accepting, forgiving, and loving my fellow man - without judging them. That, my friend, is out of my hands. Rev. Newman may be taking a giant step back into the Middle Ages.

Posted by: Dianne Location: Greenville on Nov 14, 2008 at 03:20 PM
How many babies do you think have been killed in Iraq in Bush's war? It's amazing how people only care for unborn babies, but have no concern for underprivileged children once they are born. Get a life people!

Posted by: Tad Location: Jamesville on Nov 14, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Realist, for a so-called realest you are not very real. You have either intentionally understated obama's very active support for less restrictions on abortion or you just don't know any better. It could be that you are like most obama supporters, you hear what you want to hear. You also try to sell the idea that women are only getting abortions for extreme circumstances. That's completely untrue, many women have used abortion as a means of birth control because of their own irresponsiblity. Finally, abortion is everybody's business. The supreme court has been wrong before and will be wrong again. Abortion is an issure that should be decided in congress, according to the constituants wishes, not by the court.

Posted by: The Realest on Nov 14, 2008 at 02:46 PM
To Snake Oil... here we go again. Voting for a political candidate that is keeping things the way they ALREADY ARE and have been for the past 30 years(Abortion-wise) does not mean you are waving a flag in praise of abortion. You are not participating in an abortion by voting for a political candidate that can see both sides of the issue for all Americans. NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES WHAT YOU DO. On another note, if The Lord really is that judgmental and petty then I see no reason to follow Him.

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil co Location: Washington on Nov 14, 2008 at 02:19 PM
While I agree that there is an argument to be made about religion and politics, remember, this country was founded on religious principals. Don't believe it? Read the constition. Catholics are taught many things. One is taking a life can/is a final solution for you, only one place you will go. There is not options or interpretations, you just damed your soul. Like homosexualality, it is an "abomination" not an interpretation, you just don't do it or you go to the same place. This priest is only following the laws of the church and this is what the church teaches. If you have dirty hands from voting for a proabortion candidate, you shouldn't take communion. As the church sees it, you voted to kill the unborn. If you vote for gay marriage, you are voting for the "abomination" spoken of in the bible. Just reporting the facts.

Posted by: alex Location: Vanceboro on Nov 14, 2008 at 01:43 PM
there has been a lot of calls for this priest to stay out of politics. that's fine. where were these calls when black churches were actively campaigning for Obama. you can't have it both ways. wither both are wrong or someone is a big hypocrite.

Posted by: Devil Dog Location: New Bern on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:32 PM
When people argue about RELIGION and POLITICS...nobody wins.

Posted by: mica Location: nc on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM
To me: If you believe Church and God are over rated, then you make sure you tell the Lord this when you stand in front of him on judgment day.

Posted by: Leslie Location: Pitt County on Nov 14, 2008 at 11:26 AM
To: The Realest- Great commentary. The laws of our country are established- not based on any one church doctrine. Vote your conscious, but remember that others will also vote theirs. A choice to abort is between a woman, her partner, and her physician. No religious group can force their religious views on society as a whole. If my daughter was raped and became pregnant, then abortion should be one choice available to her. It is no one else's right to make that decision. By the way, the Catholic Church higher-ups have pretty much agreed that this priest went too far in his letter to his parishoners. Interesting?

Posted by: Mr. Mackey Location: Choco on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:41 AM
We really should outlaw abortion in this country. That way we can go back to having thousands more on welfare, and children born to folks who don't want them. And you thought our prisons are full now?

Posted by: native Location: nc on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:33 AM
why is it that when I mention God in my comments, they never get posted? But everyone elses does??????

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM
It's funny how people claim to be Catholic yet they only attend mass twice a year and sure don't follow the Church Doctrine. I am a new convert to the religion. My husband is a cradle catholic so I converted when we got married. I don't agree with claiming on Sunday to be a faithful Catholic then the rest of the week picking and choosing which doctrines you wish to follow. The majority of America has lost their morals.

Posted by: ME Location: HOME on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Church and God are OVERRATED!!

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Noting that witn had a "poll" on whether voters should have and opinion on whether they do or do not think they should have communion...well, the real question is "are you Catholic or are you not"? This is the question being asked. The church is atimate about prolife. Abortion is murder to the church and the world. Doctrine. Some say Obama is prolife? Boy, you haven't been listening very well and they let you vote? The Catholic church is the "good ole Boys club", its thousands of years old. Vote the way you believe next time instead. Did you not think you voted proabortion?

Posted by: The Realest on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Let me break it down for you all. Abortion can be considered "not illegal". Nobody is lobbying for, advertising, or campaigning for the use of abortion. Obama doesn't like it... but he's choosing not to AMEND THE CONSTITUTION to make it illegal. Roe vs. Wade people, read about it AGAIN. Abortion is personal, private, and I'm sure for many regrettable. BUT, that doesn't mean we should OUTLAW it. There are cases where abortion can be an appropriate choice. For example, I do not believe an incestuous rape-conceived fetus is a gift from God - it is a byproduct of brutality. Many of you act like because it's legal women are out there getting them done every month... Get real. As far as the Church is concerned I don't fully understand. If your neighbor gets an abortion it's not going to affect you. I know those of you that are posting would NEVER consider getting an abortion so why is it the biggest issue for you? Mind your own business.

Posted by: Billy Location: Greenville on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:52 AM
Good for him! Promoters of killing children can not commune with God - unless they repent. Don't expect that from Obama. He thinks he is a messiah.

Posted by: William on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:51 AM
When did we get a new pope? This is one reason why I don't go to church anymore.

Posted by: K Location: Jacksonville on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:49 AM
I comepletely agree. My sister-n-law is Catholic and also voted for Obama. I told her to her face she was a hypocrit. You can't wear your religion on your sleeve and make others in the family bend to your religious schedule at every holiday and family vacation when it is convenient to be Catholic. Either you support your religious beliefs or you don't. You can't have it both ways. Kudos to this priest for calling them out!

Posted by: Devil Dog Location: New Bern on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:45 AM
I grew up in a strict Catholic family in the 40's. Girls who got pregnant were kicked out of school, and the person that caused the pregnancy was forced to marry the girl. That is where the term "shotgun wedding" came from. Either marry or I will come after you with my shotgun. Abortion was never considered in any family. Until "womens lib" came along in the late 60's did abortion become an issue. I agree with CATHOLIC in Greenville. The ME generation, thinks more of themselves, than the sacrifices it takes to be a great parent. THINK before ONE ACTS!!!

Posted by: bigfruitbasket Location: NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:34 AM
If ever there was an argument for separation of church and state, this is it! I hardly think God cares who you voted for. However, the Catholic Church does care about your politics here on earth.

Posted by: Pitt Resident Location: Greenville on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:27 AM
Reverend Newman needs to back away from politics. Church and State are separate entitities. Reverend Newman has no right to dictate who should or should not take communion unless he is the second coming of Jesus Christ. I am a Catholic, from a time when Mass was said in Latin. I am offended by Reverend Newman's stance. Unless he is excommunicating every Catholic who voted for Mr. Obama, (He does not have the authority) Reverend Newman needs to spend his time helping the poor and providing for his parishoner's needs and refraining from his political leanings.

Posted by: Catholic in Greenville on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:24 AM
People need to understand that if they are voting for a President that supports abortion then they do too. I agree with this priest. The priest is not saying that they should be excommunicated from the church, he's saying they should repent.

Posted by: Sandra on Nov 14, 2008 at 09:10 AM
Three Hail Marys!

Posted by: Catholic Location: Greenville, NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:47 AM
I voted for Obama, because he is young and up on the current happenings. I am the one to decide I am Pro-Life. No president can change my Faith. I was tired of the "Good Old Boys Club" Out with the old and in with the young. Remember the Children are our Future. He will be good for America. Bush out Obama In.

Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:45 AM
I think that the priest is going too far. I myself ended up voting for McCain, although I thought he would not be a good president. The abortion issue is one of about every issue that I completely disagree with Obama about. He would be even a worse president than what Bush was, and has all those muslim ties to the middle east. If anybody thinks that I am making it a racial issue, then they would be ignorant. I as a white man would love to see Colin Powell in the white house, because he knows what is right, he is a follower of God, a well educated man, and has the brains that it would take to this this country out of this mess.

Posted by: Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Excuse me, some of you are not aware of the Catholic Doctrine? Well, its easy to make comments on how they are wrong for doing this or the comment on molesting children but I will remind you it is the one of the oldest churches in the world and the largest. Tad hit it right on the money, you cannot put someone in office who is against the Catholic doctrine and take communion. Same if I were to sin. It is only for those that have gotten penance from the priest. Well, the priest is only stating the facts of what the religion is based on. They don't believe in birth control, gays, abortion...it is their doctrine. Just as if I wanted to marry a protestant she would have to be converted and our children would have to be raised catholic. You are lucky the priest didn't excommunicate you from the church.

Posted by: Not Surprised Location: Edenton on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:09 AM
The Catholic Church is whacked! Our priest insisted on a bi-linqual mass that neither hispanics or non-hispancis could follow. If non-hispanics spoke out we were labeled "racist". Many of us "racist" were the same people who blended with hispanics and african americans outside our church way before the priest arrived. Lesson learned once the diocese places a priest in your church put on the sheeps wool and follow blindly.

Posted by: David Location: Abroad on Nov 14, 2008 at 07:39 AM
Tad - you are correct the "Church" can set its standards. I guess I was wrong for assuming that the "Church" is/was/should be for Christians to regain the needed thestrength and fellowship of others, a place for sinners to come and seek guidance from the Annointed - whether it be a Pastor, memeber, etc that can help him. Finally, I belived the Church to be a place where you should not be judged AT ALL. You should be helped if desired and taught the teachings of God. Now with that being said it sounds to me like you are saying Church has decided it only want Christians there - so if you are a sinner don't look for help here. If true then tell me where does the sinner go to find God, repent to God, and begin fellowship with those they God may annoint/appoint to help this man

Posted by: a catholic mom on Nov 14, 2008 at 07:26 AM
I agree with K cimpletely...thanks to you for speaking for many of us. We do not need to mix church and state although it is done. I follow my constitutional right to vote and follow truth, honesty and want a better future for my family. These are the end times, and we need to make the best of it. I still have Hope and Faith for the future.

Posted by: Don on Nov 14, 2008 at 07:16 AM
Will the Catholic church also ban it's priests from the sacrament since so many of them molested children? Think about it..

Posted by: Tad Location: Jamesville on Nov 14, 2008 at 03:35 AM
Thomas, the church has every right to set it's standards. If they don't have standards of right and wrong, what is it all about anyway? If you don't like it, find a church that will accept any sin without applying any fault. It may not be acceptable to God, but at least you will feel more comfortable being around people who accept homosexuality, abortion, the normalization of out of wedlock pregnancies and socialism. God may not accept you with these beliefs but at least you will have each other.

Posted by: K Location: W on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I am pro-life and against gay marriage, but I did vote for Obama because overall he is the better choice--not because he is black. It is stupid for anyone to pick one or two issues he/she disagrees with and dismiss the candidate's entire platform. By the way, neither Obama nor Biden are for gay marriage. Also neither of them believe abortion is right, but they believe in the right to choose. Some of you need to get over it. Obama didn't turn 10 red states because he was black. The Obama-Biden ticket was just flat out better than the McCain-Palin ticket on any day. The biggest issue was the economy for the most part. People are not stupid, and John "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" McCain was not an option. And neither was Mrs. I Can See Russia From My House. Please, the chick didn't even know Africa was a continent. And they were supposed to make decisions concerning my money and security--absolutely not. Oh, and yeah, I'm black.

Posted by: Carlos Location: Davidson, NC on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Well, at least Father Newman is not recommending that Obamites be burned at the stake, as the Church used to do to those who strayed from the Holy Doctrine.

Posted by: Rob Location: NC on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Gee, folks, what do you think of when you hear the words "Catholic Church"? Kind of a double standard, don't you think?

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:31 PM
"Thomas", I have to agree with you.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Well, I guess my Catholic buddies who voted for Obama won't take communion this Sunday.

Posted by: D.W. Location: Goldsboro,N.C. on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:02 PM
It is the right thing to do!! He believes in abortion and that is murder!! Oh, the ones who voted for Obama will probably not go to church so there is nothing to worry about!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Location: NC on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:56 PM
Organized religion at its hypocritical worst. But not surprising. Over the centuries, the 'church' has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any other institution on earth.

Posted by: WOLFGANG Location: CHOCOWINITY,NC on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Obama Voters should do Penance To God and Country. The bottom line Whites & Minorities they voted for him because he is a Black. Ask any Obama voter on the street about his Abortion views. Most would not even now he had a view on Abortion. I do ask Obama voters all the about his views. They have no clue. Except for there Redistrobution Check. So he won because he is Black,and on a Redistrubtion Check insane.

Posted by: Sarah Location: Goldsboro on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:49 PM
I agree... He is NOT PRO LIFE.. he is for GAY marriages.. he does not stand for what the church stands for. It is the end of the worked as predicted in Revelations.. NO I AM NOT PREJUDICE.. it is not because he is BLACK.. don;t even get started on that... I did not vote for Al Gore either

Posted by: Bob on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:36 PM
What a couragous man to speak out. God bless him

Posted by: this is rediculous on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:22 PM
I can't believe the nerve that the Catholic Church has priests not letting people recieve the Eucharist because of voting for Obama. I am for life, but also honesty, integrity, and all living creatures. Many Catholics voted a Democratic ticket. The Bishops wrote a letter to Obama expressing cooperation in taking more to heart with life beginning at conception, but life is important in many ways as well. We have 2 wars with thousands dying for no reason. We need to all work hard to bring peace and harmony back. What did Bush and Cheney do with pro life? Why weren't Catholics that voted for them refused the Eucharist. They did nothing for life, but caused many deaths. Stop being narrowminded and stop believing they lies told to people to get them to vote. Life should be valued at all levels. Those who kill should be put in prison. Obama has not killed anyone. He is not in prison. I am very happy to have him as our ner president.

Posted by: Me Location: Lewiston NC on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:18 PM
You got to be kidding me! This a free conntry and we can vote for whom ever. God has given is free well, so who are you to say we can't take communion because of who Mwe voted for. Communion is for the death, bural, and that He's coming back agian. Come on! Give me a break! Whats's next?! I really can't believe this. What is this world coming to.

Posted by: me Location: nc on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:17 PM
I agree

Posted by: jk on Nov 13, 2008 at 07:58 PM
Next thing you know, when businesses are forced to cut back, they will be getting rid of people with Obama stickers on their cars!

Posted by: oh boy! Location: eastern NC on Nov 13, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Look out, here comes the NAACP!

Posted by: Not right on Nov 13, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Taking it far he is. I didn't vote for him, but I would not judge anyone, or deny anyone anything because of it. He is giving himself a bad reputation, and its not christain to be that way.

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