ECU's Run In Top 25 Ends After Loss To Houston

Oklahoma is the new number-1 team in the latest
Associated Press college football poll. The Sooners claimed 43 of 65 first-place votes following yesterday's 35-10 win over TCU. Oklahoma was given a chance to move atop the poll when Southern California lost at Oregon State Thursday night.

Alabama is ranked second after garnering 21 first-place votes.
LSU is third, ahead of Missouri and Texas. Sixth-ranked Penn State is followed by Texas Tech, BYU, Southern Cal and South Florida.

Georgia fell from third to 11th with yesterday's 41-30 loss to
the Crimson Tide. Florida dropped eight notches to 12th by losing
at home against Mississippi yesterday. Auburn is 13th, ahead of
Ohio State and Utah.

Number-16 Kansas is followed by Boise State, Wisconsin,
Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech. Oklahoma State, Fresno State, Oregon, Connecticut and Wake Forest round out the top 25.

The Top 25 teams in The Associated Press college football poll,
with first-place votes in parentheses, records through Sept. 27,
total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one
point for a 25th-place vote, and previous ranking:

Record Pts Pvs
1. Oklahoma (43) 4-0 1,599 2
2. Alabama (21) 5-0 1,565 8
3. LSU 4-0 1,466 5
4. Missouri (1) 4-0 1,453 6
5. Texas 4-0 1,362 7
6. Penn St. 5-0 1,252 12
7. Texas Tech 4-0 1,105 10
8. BYU 4-0 1,098 11
9. Southern Cal 2-1 1,087 1
10. South Florida 5-0 1,035 13
11. Georgia 4-1 1,018 3
12. Florida 3-1 914 4
13. Auburn 4-1 860 15
14. Ohio St. 4-1 829 14
15. Utah 5-0 713 17
16. Kansas 3-1 650 18
17. Boise St. 3-0 549 19
18. Wisconsin 3-1 520 9
19. Vanderbilt 4-0 459 21
20. Virginia Tech 4-1 290 --
21. Oklahoma St. 4-0 277 --
22. Fresno St. 3-1 232 25
23. Oregon 4-1 199 --
24. Connecticut 5-0 126 --
25. Wake Forest 3-1 107 16

Others receiving votes: Maryland 46, Michigan St. 42, Kentucky
40, Ball St. 38, Northwestern 32, Tulsa 32, TCU 30, Illinois 24,
North Carolina 21, Florida St. 14, Mississippi 13, Georgia Tech 10,
California 5, Nebraska 5, Boston College 3, Oregon St. 3, Colorado

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  • by deadfish Location: nc on Oct 7, 2008 at 12:45 PM
    93P: Show or quote where I have stated or posted that "the recruiting war is garbage". I don't run my mouth in a bullish way like you do. I research and I post to back-up my arguments. Recruiting is the strongest point of my CFB knowledge. Once more I have never compared ECU to a BCS school. Mr. 93P, Sir I know enough CFB to know a BCS VS a NON BCS school, thank you. So far NOT a single Pirate fan has given a solid explanation if ECU at [least] tried or interviewed Jacksonville, NC Donte Moss the #12 player in the nation according to Here is my challenge to ECU. If you can't recruit 50 or 60 miles away you have a problem. Yes, there is fierce competition at every level. ND has a few California players. Have you ever heard of ND QB John Huarte? He won thew Heisman trophy. Guess what? He went to Mater Dei HS CA as Matt Leinart That should NOT be an excuse as I keep hearing from you 93P. ECU finished ahead of USC back in 1993-1994. How about that for fairness and objectivity?
  • by deadfish Location: nc on Oct 6, 2008 at 10:16 PM
    93P: Do you know how to read? Show me in any of my posts where did I say the recruiting wars are garbage? I am well educated therefore I don't need your help to put words in my mouth. Regarding recruiting I challenge you or anybody. I know what I'm talking about. Furthermore I did NOT compare ECU NOR any BCS VS NON BCS schools at all. I stand by my argument WHY can't ECU recruit better given their low academic standard? Instead two basketball schools in the state are out recruiting ECU and that is fact. Duke nor UNC are BCS schools. Do you understand that? So don't insult my intelligence about NOT knowing the differences between a BCS school versus a NON BCS one, thank you. USC is a powerhouse BCS school. Your beloved ECU is NOT and will probably NEVER be. Since we're talking recruiting the first thing Pete Carroll when he took over at USC as HC said:"We have to recruit better in our own back yard". He has done that. Chip Davis has done the same thing at UNC. Look at Do u?
  • by 93P Location: Greenville on Oct 6, 2008 at 06:55 AM
    Dead: How do you say the recruiting war is garbage. Have you ever compared the BCS School recruiting stars to the non-BCS schools. Go do that then come back here and eat your crow. Know what you are talking about before you spout.
  • by deadfish Location: nc on Oct 2, 2008 at 05:44 AM
    93P: With ALL due respect you are making excuses for ECU. ECU recruiting should be better. Duke is rated #34 and ECU #71 for the 2009. Keep in mind that Duke is rated #8 academically in the nation meaning it is tougher to get admission to Duke VS ECU. You are facing Virginia next Saturday. Duke beat Virginia last Saturday. Given that trend ECU will NOT beat Duke in a couple of years. Duke is recruiting in the same area as ECU is. That BCS political rhetoric that you were referring to is just that hot air verbiage with all due respect. Furthermore it is irrelevant. Thank you
  • by 93P Location: Greenville on Oct 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM
    Dead,i haven't seen anyone on here declare the Pirates could go to the NC. What's ur point? Fact is it is tough to recruit outside the BCS because every player is hoping for that outside chance to make it. Stars don't mean squat if you can coach them up. Just take a look at State and UNC. I never expected to be a contender for a BCS game because of the system. Maybe you are refering to some dilusional fans but most are realistic enough to know the odds of playing quality football week end and week out is very difficult. Fact is the BCS is a BS political money making scheme and until it goes bust or until we make it into a BCS league we will likely not land the type of recruit you're talking about in J-ville. If there were a BCS in college baseball Fresno State would have never had the opportunity to win the college world series. Prime example of how delusional the whole system is. The pirates will keep winning if Skip comes up with a secondary offensive game plan.
  • by Dave Location: Greenville on Oct 1, 2008 at 08:15 AM
    I heard from a very reliable source that the offensive and defensive players of ECU were fighting at halftime and at the end of the game. This team got too big headed and seems as though they are on the brink of falling apart.
  • by BigT Location: greenville on Oct 1, 2008 at 08:01 AM
    Thanks Dave, I know what you mean. And although ecu's recruiting has improved it still has a long way to go before we can field a team that can CONSISTENTLY compete with the bigger boys. If ECU boosters wanted to have undefeated seasons every year should have stayed in CAA. With they team they have now they could dominate there. I am a Pirate fan but not an idiot. I do know you can't make chicken salad if all you have is chicken poop. I had hoped for lengthy run in top 25 but will be happy with any bowl appearance at this point. Either way I will be there rooting them on. Ecu's largest problem to me is the lake of depth on the team and the abundance of shallowness of the boosters. Facts that the coaches and players have to deal with and do the best they can with. Given these facts, and the injuries they deal with I think Skip and the team do a heck of a job. Go Pirates!
  • by Dave Location: Greenville on Oct 1, 2008 at 07:22 AM
    Big T I've said before that you are one of the GOOD Pirate fans. You seem to be the only person who I have encontered on here that actually gets it! MOST Pirate fans have Delusions of Grandeur and they can't see the forest for the trees.
  • by Big T Location: greenville on Oct 1, 2008 at 05:50 AM
    Deadfish and Dave, I would love to see USC and Penn State in the Rose Bowl and watch you guys at each other's throats instead of bashing the Pirates. Not all pirate fans are idiots, and frankly I don't appreciate being lumped in the group. Fish is more of a realist and is quite knowledgeable when it comes to NCAA football. However, Dave, you just like to badmouth but, per your very own comment on 9/30 9:32pm; I noticed you stated-"I will be watching ECU....", I was in shock. I do thouroughly enjoy the banter. And yes, fish, I do want to know why ECU didn't recruit Donte Moss. There have also been other outstanding, maybe not nationally ranked, but outstanding that we have failed at attempting to land. Right here in our own back yard. I wish I could badmouth Dave's team but I cannot, I am a huge Paterno fan. I've hated USC ever since they let McKay get away. So in a Penn St - USC Rose Bowl? GO NITTANY LIONS! Maybe that will give dave a happy face.
  • by Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 30, 2008 at 06:32 PM
    I never said PSU would go undefeated and am sticking to my 10-2 prediction. 10-2 will be good enough to win the Big Ten and a Rose Bowl appearance. However, I will be watching ECU play some team like Western Kentucky in the Little Debbie Snack Cakes Bowl.
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