Groups Lobby To Keep Temporary Tax In Place

Three dozen organizations are involved with a new coalition designed to build support for extending an extra penny on North Carolina's sales tax to prevent deep cuts to public schools and services.

The tax is scheduled to expire at the end of June

The Quality Schools Coalition scheduled a news conference Friday afternoon on the grounds of the old Capitol building in downtown Raleigh. Representatives of four statewide organizations involved were scheduled to speak.

Keeping the sales tax would preserve more than $1 billion in revenues. Republicans are adamant about letting the tax expire, saying it was a promise legislators made to North Carolina citizens in 2009.

The extra penny sets the sales tax floor consumers must pay on purchases at 7.75 percent. Many counties have slightly higher rates.

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  • by tim Location: greenville on May 7, 2011 at 09:28 PM
    end the tax, and end more welfruad programs....cut, cut, and cut some more. If you want a program, then pull out YOUR wallet and PAY. Personally, I'm sick of the waste and sick of carrying people...
  • by Moo on May 7, 2011 at 04:28 AM
    Umm, Where does the money from the North Carolina EDUCATION Lottery go? Just sayin', we are supposed to have funds for schools without adding taxes.
  • by Chris Location: Greenville on May 7, 2011 at 04:06 AM
    Let parents or this coalition pay this ridiculous tax.
  • by Teacher Location: ENC on May 6, 2011 at 05:41 PM
    If they are going to cut 11,000 Teacher Assitants, why not raise the minimum standard to a four year degree.
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      by Anonymous on May 7, 2011 at 07:30 AM in reply to Teacher
      I agree, a Teacher Assistant with a four year degree could help you with your spelling and use of question marks.
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      by Anonymous on May 7, 2011 at 09:31 AM in reply to Teacher
      The TA's with the best work performance record, bus license, and at least a four year degree should be the new standard, especially in the area of Special Education. Currently there are a lot of college degree holders looking for jobs and the children in school would benefit.
  • by Steve Location: Ayden on May 6, 2011 at 03:45 PM
    Reducing class sizes has not increased the quality of education. They like to say it does but there is not a single study to supports that. We rank 3rd in the world in education funding but 19th in results?!?! It is not the money or lack thereof. Somehow the illusion that teachers are heroes has taken hold but people are ignoring their results. Public school teachers are second rate compared to private school teachers, charter school teachers and every other teacher from around the world. Plus all teachers assistants need to be let go. Having been around many of them they are useless and a waste of money.
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      by saywha? on May 6, 2011 at 07:42 PM in reply to Steve
      Steve, take a look at the countries in the top 25 and think about how our demographics are very different. Of course, that would take some effort at thinking, and based on your post I don't believe that is a strong suit of your's.
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        by Obama Snake Oil Co on May 7, 2011 at 04:01 AM in reply to saywha?
        When you removed all morality out of the school, you are now producing the product. In other countries, they have morals as part of the curriculum. In the US, we have the federal government removing it for dyversity purposes. You reap what you sew! Discipline is the same way as we have taken that out too. I blame the left for the damage to the school systems. They promoted this terd. They rewrote history and the lessons in life and replaced it with the town of "Perfect". Did you know most kids 13-25 didn't know who OBL was? Did you know they didn't even know why the US went after thats school. I have no sympathy for public schools. All they are is day care for teenagers....compliments of no child left behind...
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          by Chris on May 7, 2011 at 05:56 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Public school is daycare for FCA's (Future Crybabies or Criminals of America). Take your pick on the "C".
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          by saywha? on May 7, 2011 at 06:28 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          As usual, you have virtually no earthly clue as to what you are writing about.How exactly is morality removed from the public schools? Well, it isn't. Character education is large part of the curriculum through middle school. I suspect that you will come back with some nonsense about how organized prayer was taken out of schools or that kids with gay parents stopped being treated like outcasts. Guess what, we have a duty to educate ALL of our children. If you can't understand that, I'm not sure any sense at all can be talked into you.
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          by Obama Snake Oil co on May 7, 2011 at 04:14 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Saywha? As usual, I do know what I am posting...when you take god, discipline and country out of the schools, you take heart and soul away and end up with a whole new set of problems. And hey, I know, that is why I don't teach anymore and gave it up. You lefties take it out of school and whine about why its not safe or why the kids fight with the teachers and show no respect. Trust me, I know first hand. Pick one! We have no duty to educate any child that doesn't want to be there. Lefties made it into a day care and then wonder why. You even want the pledge taken out of the schools. Then you will have nothing, no discipline, religion, no country and no education. So when you deal with those entitled children who think you are an idiot for not giving all of your money to them, maybe you understand that you are the problem. Thank God, America and our fellow conservatives for trying to save whay you have destroyed. Now, got to sleep and think about it, and think about those kids that get in trouble and why....its your sides fault, you did it.
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          by saywha? on May 7, 2011 at 06:40 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Oh my gosh, snake oil was once a teacher? Well, if you showed the lack of common sense in the classroom you show when posting comments here I suspect it was pretty rough on you. I spent 5 years in a high school, teaching and coaching in Virginia before going back to graduate school and I taught with a few folks like you....and the student were better off when they left. Now, I will give you that dealing with worthless high schoolers can be trying, as in you can't educate those who don't want to be educated. That said, that completely ignores the pre-K through 8th grade kids want to give up on them too just because some high school kids hurt your feelings? Of course you do. Removing God and corporal punishment from public schools has zilch to do with school problems. School problems will be a reflection of problems in society. Period. All the grace saying before lunch or paddlings isn't going to change that fact. And, as a Christian and a parent, I'm responsible for my child's path in our faith and I never want someone I don't know taking even a minor role in that, and, likewise, nobody is laying a hand on my child to deal out physical punishment other than my wife and I. Funny that cons are so uptight about the gov't being involved with the personal lives of folks, but they are all for some evangelizing and child beating in the public schools.
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          by Obama Snake Oil co on May 9, 2011 at 05:51 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Saywha? Nice try about the discipline and no need for god in school....Now, come down to earth and check out the Catholic Schools, the test scores, the discipline of the would know that if you hadn's spent 5 years in High School.....
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      by Anonymous on May 7, 2011 at 03:48 AM in reply to Steve
      Class sizes weren't actually reduced, though, so the studies are inaccurate. They don't reduce class sizes per say - they take an average. So if a math class has 40 students and an English class has 30, they count that as 35 students. You have schools that will ave a few classes - electives in high school, remediation course - with 5-8 students while a calculus class has 35-40 students. I've seen this at Rose. Class size reduction helps because the teacher has more time to meet individual student needs, can catch students when they're starting to fail, cuts down on discipline issues because 20 students are much easier to manage than 30, and gives the teacher less work to grade and more tine to create lesson plans. Studies that show otherwise are slanted and designed to back up a policy. I trust any study these days about as far as I can throw it. Common sense is my guide.
  • by anon rapper Location: snow hill on May 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM
    No, no. Only tax those folks who have more than $100,000 income per year. They use up more resources than the poorer folks. They have like 2-3 cars, boats zipping around the place and leaving oil films on the water, huge houses that suck-up electricity and lots of money left over to buy their favorite Republican politician !!
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      by Sick and Tired on May 6, 2011 at 05:07 PM in reply to anon rapper
      Maybe those with $100,000 or more incomes should not frequent the business that you work at? Or spend money at all? Then what would be your solution, only allow everyone to have the same income and same life style?
  • by Annette Location: ENC on May 6, 2011 at 10:29 AM
    What else has changed in the last 50 or so years? More single-parent households, more teen pregnancies, more welfare, food stamps, WIC, Medicaid, disability...the list goes on and on. All of you are not willing to fund education but are obviously more than willing to fund more social programs & dependancy on the government. We cannot have a self-sufficient workforce with horrible education. Teachers do more than teach, they have also been made responsible for fixing all of society's problems. You are too blind to see that. Also, the money you are all complaining about does not make it to classrooms. I am completely appalled at the attitude toward teachers & not the government that abuses teachers and YOUR children EVERYDAY!!!
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      by suzyq on May 6, 2011 at 11:45 AM in reply to Annette
      Right on, Annettte!!!
  • by teacher on May 6, 2011 at 09:16 AM
    education in nc is in trouble not with just lack of funding but the whole system is broken. We as teacher need your help to fix the problem. Visit your local public school, walk the halls, talk with the kids, the teachers. Do not take the words of Political Politicians, form your own conclusions.
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      by Sick and Tired on May 6, 2011 at 10:27 AM in reply to teacher
      Just be careful not to get mugged. =))
  • by saywha? Location: Washington on May 6, 2011 at 09:06 AM
    Well, snake oil, education accounts for roughly 60% of the state's overall budget and if there are going to be big cuts, you can't get to the level of overall cuts without hitting education. Simple Math. Now, the other half of that is that ALL state agencies have experienced massive cuts over the last two years,ECU alone has lost slightly over 100 million dollars in that time. The fat has pretty much been cut out. I'm still simply amazed that there are folks who would rather get rid of a 1% sales tax, ONE DOLLAR FOR EVERY HUNDRED YOU SPEND, then maintain it to shave around a billion dollars off of the deficit, reducing, by a large margin, the amount of cuts our educational system must endure. It truly saddens me that so many are willing to see our schools funded at the levels of Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana. You get what you pay for.
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      by Obama Snake Oil Co on May 6, 2011 at 10:17 AM in reply to saywha?
      The one penny isn't the point. Our state has a spending problem, not a taxing problem. Even the internet shows that it took in more revenue than in 2010. Well, its gone, where? The teachers didn't get a raise, the lottery pays for new schools...where did it go...oh, it didn't go to the classrooms? So, where did it EPA inspectors, mandated by the big O, new green jobs, mandated by the Big O....but we got federal money right? We got porkulus from the feds then get left with maintaining the hog. So you go to the internet and type in NC state budget by used to be there in a graph...however, now its stories about how the teachers, the layoffs, the children, the healthcare get what I am saying here? We pay more taxes than Florida...they have a 7 cent sales tax...we have an 8 cent, plus income, property and higher gas tax. You gettin this? So the dnc is blaming the teachers for the attention...not buying this terd, the dnc controlled both houses for 100 years...they layed the egg...
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        by saywha? on May 6, 2011 at 11:29 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
        Wrong again, snake oil. The one cent is the point. Everything else in your post is just fuzzy noise. Why are you bringing up Florida? While their public education system isn't down with the bottom feeders of the other deep South states, it certainly isn't a shining light on the hill either. As a matter of fact, UNC system schools were able to poach a number of impressive faculty away from UF, FSU, UCF and UCF due to the hardships their system went through 4 or 5 years ago. I see you harping on NC's tax rate being the highest in the SE. Well, guess what state in the SE has the most respected systems of public education ? NC. Here is one simple example....USC is the flagship univ of SC while ECU is the third largest in enrollment but probably around 5th or 6th in academics in UNC system. USC and ECU are considered peers. Why? Because of the quality of our system. Your ilk likes to pop off about how "cutting teachers" gets marched out whenever budget cuts come up as a scare tactic. 1) as I noted before, with education being 60% of the state budget and 85% of that amount being personnel costs and only 10% of that being non-teachers, then teacher and teacher assistant lines will take a hit, period. Pointing that out isn't being dishonest.
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      by Anonymous on May 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM in reply to saywha?
      Exactly! Well said!
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      by Anonymous on May 6, 2011 at 12:00 PM in reply to saywha?
      Saywhat?-Can you tell me where all that "North Carolina Educational Lottery Money" went. It was hyped as the end-all be-all in supplying money for the NC educational system and would supply all the money needed for the NC school system. All this lottery money is going into the school system and yet they still need to tax me for for it? Well I say, saywhat, something is not adding up. Why should I trust them to spend this tax when they can't even manage the education lottery money.
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        by saywha? on May 6, 2011 at 12:47 PM in reply to
        A little web research shows that 35 cents of every dollar spent on a lottery ticket goes into the Education lottery fund within the Office of State Budget and Management. Of the total that goes to OSBM, 5% goes into the lottery reserve fund (to allow them to make expected minimum payouts to school systems if the actual annual take in a give year is less), 50% is to go to reducing class sizes in pre-K through 12th grade (typically done in k-6 with teaching assistants), 40% goes to school construction, 10% goes toward scholarships for students, who also qualify for federal pell grants, to attend comm colleges, colleges and universities in the state. The remaining 5% gets split between the three areas. I think folks were confused into thinking that we could depend on lottery funds for hiring permanent teachers with lottery funds.
  • by Henry Location: Greenville on May 6, 2011 at 08:38 AM
    North Carolina state government should not be in the business of employing school teachers, or maintaing schools. Fire the teachers and privatize the educational system to the lowest bidder. Education should not be free, but only for those who pay to receive schooling.
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      by saywha? on May 6, 2011 at 09:42 AM in reply to Henry
      Henry, did you wake up this morning and think it was 1811 instead of 2011? While we are at it, let's go ahead and reinstate slavery and allow only property owning white men to vote, you know, since we are being all nostalgic and what not.
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        by Sick and Tired on May 6, 2011 at 04:52 PM in reply to saywha?
        I personally think that one institution of the past is at least 50% of today's problems. So no thanks as far as I'm concerned.
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        by anon on May 6, 2011 at 07:27 PM in reply to saywha?
        NOW you're talking. That would work.
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      by Anonymous on May 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM in reply to Henry
      Great option. We'll have only rich kids with an education and everyone else be dammed. Really? Did you go to school, Henry? We're not some 3rd world country. Are we? Or are we...
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        by The flood on May 6, 2011 at 05:05 PM in reply to
        Not even close to true. Poor kids would be eligible for vouchers and it would cost the US tax payer significantly less because private schools have proven over and over they can do it better and cheaper than public schools. Plus if education was something you had to work for instead of it being given away freely people might stop taking it for granted.
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