NC Catholics Urged To Vote For Marriage Amendment

North Carolina Catholics are being asked to vote for the constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

A letter from the two NC Catholic Bishops was delivered to church members this weekend urging them to "Vote on May 8 for protecting traditional marriage in North Carolina."

The letter from Charlotte Diocese Bishop Most Reverend Peter Jugis and Raleigh Diocese Bishop Most Reverend Michael Burbidge, which covers Eastern Carolina, says, "We ask you, no matter what position you currently hold about the definition of marriage, to become informed about our Church's teaching, to be respectful in all discussions about this important issue and to vote."

The Bishops say in the letter they expect the debate on this issue will be intense, so videos are being produced to help Catholics in their role as faithful citizens and to engage the debate in a manner that never diminishes the inherent dignity of any person.

Records indicate there are about 340,000 NC Catholics.


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  • by Voting Yes on Feb 3, 2012 at 04:09 PM
    This affects society because it is immoral. It would be no different than wanting people to approve other immoral behavior. How stupid. Those who approve of this lifestyle of course do not consider it immoral and that's fine for them. I do consider it immoral and do not approve, so don't ask me to o.k. it. It's one thing for us as individuals to do things that aren't moral, and we all do, but why in the world would we ever ask a society to endorse those things? How does that make us better? It does not. And claiming a behavior is a civil right is absurd. Can you imagine how approving gay marriage would open up the floodgates for people who engage in all sorts of activities and types of behavior to now want what they do to be recognized as their "civil right?" And it is ok for people and the government to not recognize gay marriage for religious purposes, just as those who support it use religion in their argument for it. While this government does not endorse a particular religion or tell people to worship or not to worship, it is clear this country is God fearing. After all, Christmas is a federal holiday. Now if you don't think that is right you can just go ahead and not participate in Christmas(no one is forcing you to) and you can go to work. But don't tell me or the rest of us we cannot. Good day!!!
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      by ashleesboss on Feb 4, 2012 at 12:34 PM in reply to Voting Yes
      What a great point. It isn't right to ask society to condome immoral behavior for sodomites any more than drunks, theives, pedophiles, etc. And this would be the door opening but as you see the country has already opened the door and our country is doomed Im afraid. In CA they have now mandated that sodomites be recognized by sexuality and placed in school text books to record their "trials and tribulations".. I only pray they survive the trials and tribulations they are facing, because having a perverted mind is surely dangerous
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        by Anonymous on Feb 14, 2012 at 02:00 PM in reply to ashleesboss
        Homosexuality harms not a single person, alcoholics get in cars and kill people, they're irrational, and there are plenty of instances of people becoming violent when drunk. Theives steal property and personal belongings, that harms individuals. Pedophiles (true pedophiles) moldest children that are usually under the age of 13. If you think any of those are equal to an act which has yet to ever actually harm somebody, you're an idiot.
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          by Alex on Mar 21, 2012 at 05:31 PM in reply to
          Excellent points. I'm voting no to the amendment.
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      by Truth on Feb 4, 2012 at 05:24 PM in reply to Voting Yes
      "The consitution doesn't protect behavior." Isn't straight sex and marriage a behavior? How come your behavior is protected but not that of others? I've said it before: gay marriage in no way harms you or others. It is two consenting adults making a decision together. None of your "cataclysmic fallout of all behaviors" will be legalized because those behaviors are not between consenting adults, but between minors or animals or whatever that can't possibly give consent. Those other behaviors DO hurt people and society. If you can't see the difference, you should try getting off the pedestal.
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        by Obama Snake Oil Co on Feb 5, 2012 at 06:49 AM in reply to Truth
        There is no difference, get over your theory. It didn't win in Ca, it will not become OK in NC.
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          by Anonymous on Feb 14, 2012 at 02:00 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          You're right, it didn't win. So a judge had to do his job and overturn the unconstitutional ban, just like a judge will do in North Carolina.
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          by Anonymous on Feb 15, 2012 at 08:11 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          You know deflection isn't an argument, don't you?
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      by Anonymous on Feb 14, 2012 at 01:58 PM in reply to Voting Yes
      Oh yeah, we're a God fearing country, that's why on the "birthday" of Christ people go out and spend money on material goods instead of feeding the poor, starving and helpless. How...Christian of them. And Christmas is nearly completely secular at this point, people of all faiths celebrate the season, regardless of how what decorations they put up in their homes.
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        by Obama Snake Oil Co on Mar 21, 2012 at 05:55 AM in reply to
        So you are saying that rather than help the poor at Christmas you bought presents instead? So while some of us were being charitable, you were hoarding it. You should be ashamed to even post that remark. Secular....christian is what this country is founded on and if you don't like it, move.
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        by Wow on Mar 21, 2012 at 05:33 PM in reply to
        Wonderful points.
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      by Jeff on Mar 21, 2012 at 05:30 PM in reply to Voting Yes
      ...and if you or your faith choose to not recognize gay marriage, so be it. But why would you want to infringe on peoples' rights to marry? It is hypocritical. I know I won't change your opinion. Read your New Testament. Jesus wasn't a hater.
  • by ashley Location: san diego, ca on Feb 3, 2012 at 02:57 PM
    Amen Amen Amen!! Im not Catholic but with all due respect to every human and living thing.. The Bible is The Bible is The Bible. period.
  • by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM
    The Catholics talk about marriage...Their clergy can't be married !
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      by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:38 PM in reply to
      That's because their clergy are too busy molesting young boys.
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        by altar boy on Feb 4, 2012 at 01:53 PM in reply to
        Exactly!!!
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        by Obama Snake Oil Co on Mar 21, 2012 at 05:55 AM in reply to
        Which is what you want to legalize in this state.....
  • by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:37 AM
    When the tough questions are asked, OSOC is nowhere to be found.
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      by Obama Snake Oil co on Feb 3, 2012 at 06:19 AM in reply to
      And when a tough question gets asked, it won't be by you. Taunting?
  • by My Two Cents Location: ENC on Feb 2, 2012 at 05:51 PM
    Truth...Just as I suspected, just more questions to keep the argument going.
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      by Truth on Feb 2, 2012 at 06:19 PM in reply to My Two Cents
      My Two Cents...ok, fine. You answered the question...by not actually answering it. As long as you're ok with not actually having a real, demonstrable reason why gay marriage is bad for society, then I'll stop asking questions. You know who else does that, but with black people or anyone different than them? Bigots. Oh darn, I asked a question, didn't I? Ooops. There's another!
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        by My Two Cents on Feb 2, 2012 at 06:33 PM in reply to Truth
        I am simply saying to you I have laid out many reasons. You just don't like them so you try to keep asking the same questions over and over and over and over. Because I believe in traditional marriage does not make me a bigot, but I guess when you don't have any reasonable arguments for it other than, "Why can't we," then you have to start name-calling.
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          by Truth on Feb 2, 2012 at 06:57 PM in reply to My Two Cents
          What else would you can willful discrimination against a group of people for no good reason? My arguments have more substance than mere questions to you. I have asserted that gay marriages in no way hurt society. You rebutted that they did, but provided no evidence, only opinions or speculation or referrals to the constitution (which is itself open at least partially to interpretation, anyway!) Since there is no evidence that I can find showing that they do, and you have yet to provide any, I can only reason that gay marriage is not detrimental to society.
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          by Jeff on Mar 21, 2012 at 05:38 PM in reply to My Two Cents
          bigot: a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race I know it's an ugly word. But your ideals are ugly. Love and accept everyone. Let them recognize their unions. It's not hurting you. You don't have to accept it. But why are you trying so hard to prevent it? Aren't there more important issues like feeding the poor and loving your neighbor? Bigotry wasn't on Jesus' agenda. Why is it on yours?
  • by Bertie on Feb 2, 2012 at 02:08 PM
    I will be voting AGAINST this amendment as a true, genuine woman of Christian values. Love is the answer people. be on the right side of history this time. Gay rights is the new civil rights of our generation. Voting against this is a vote of hate, and bigotry. I'll pray for all of you ugly hearted people.
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      by Obama Snake Oil co on Feb 2, 2012 at 03:43 PM in reply to Bertie
      Just do it, it will look good on your resume when you apply for that ice water sales gal there. It says you voted against what you read and learned in the book. I can see why you would run for that after all, its just the book. Good luck with your theory and good luck with that ice water sales woman position. They say its hot there so you should have a lot of customers, hopefully, they tip.
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        by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:24 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil co
        So God's a horrible bigot for no concernable reason? Think I'd rather deal with reality than fairy tales.
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          by Obama Snake Oil co on Feb 3, 2012 at 06:13 AM in reply to
          Good luck with your theories...
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          by Anonymous on Feb 15, 2012 at 08:12 AM in reply to
          LOL at a Christian talking about theories when he believes in fairy tales.
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      by tom on Feb 2, 2012 at 03:50 PM in reply to Bertie
      then ur not a real christian cause in the bible it states homosexuality is a sin duh!
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        by Truth on Feb 2, 2012 at 04:48 PM in reply to tom
        Uh, according to Christian doctrine, we're all sinners, duh! No sin is greater than any other. (at least for protestants) Do you eat shellfish or wear mixed fibers? Cut your hair or shave? Work on the Sabbath? Guess you aren't a real Christian either.
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          by Obama Snake Oil Co on Feb 3, 2012 at 06:14 AM in reply to Truth
          Hmmm, mixing the old with the new, so aethist of you.
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          by Truth on Feb 3, 2012 at 07:35 AM in reply to Truth
          "mixing the old with the new" - LOL. Where do you think people got that homosexuality was a sin? The Old Testament. All those other things I mentioned are also from the Old Testament. Jesus did say that not a jot or tittle of the old law would be changed, did he not? Was Jesus wrong? Maybe OSOC is right and Jesus was wrong after all. All hail our new savior and all-around really smart guy, OSOC. Also, it's "Atheist", smart guy. You strike me as someone who has never once looked at any of the arguments against his position.
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          by Anonymous on Feb 15, 2012 at 08:14 AM in reply to Truth
          OSOC, I ask you to actually read the Bible. Read leviticus, and either decide to include all of the things listed as abominations, or include none of them. The typical ways of past Christians isn't going to cut it in the 21st century. People are smarter now, they know better than to just accept the Bible for what you claim it to be. Science and reason will win, and you'll fade into obsecurity and your religion will be viewed for the shame it is.
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          by Obama Snake Oil Co on Mar 21, 2012 at 06:16 AM in reply to Truth
          Anonymous on Feb 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM reread Leviticus and also note, the same remarks are posted in other locations. It was made very clear. Whether its 21st or 1st, its still a mortal sin. You are sayin that murder should be OK in these days and times too.
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        by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:27 AM in reply to tom
        Neither are you, so why is it only an issue with homosexuality?
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      by Surfer girl on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:39 PM in reply to Bertie
      Bertie, I admire your strength and faith. I know that there are Christians out there that don't hate. Bless you.
  • by My Two Cents Location: ENC on Feb 1, 2012 at 06:37 PM
    The non-Biblical reason is because we are a society of laws, rules and morals and currently we, as a society, are smart enough to recognize marrriage is between a man and a woman. The fact that we have to go the extra step to actually pass an amendment to define it shows how messed up we are becoming. Not that we are becoming enlightened. Legalizing something that should not be legal doesn't make us a better society, it puts us on the path where we allow anything and everything. You make my point. You say, "Animals are unable to provide consent or make rational adult decisions, just like children. Ergo, they are unable to fully understand marriage or sexual relationships." Well let's change that. Let's put an amandment on the ballot to get it changed. Why should people who want to marry multiple people, or animals, of why should two 10-year-olds not be allowed to get married? Just because those are the current laws? Let's change them!!! What difference does it make to you?
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      by Truth on Feb 2, 2012 at 08:26 AM in reply to My Two Cents
      Your claim is basically that, "We're right because we're right." This is merely circular reasoning, and your "slippery-slope" argument against legalizing gay marriage is fallacious and absurd. Others have tried to use the same argument to prevent the abolishment of slavery, equal rights for blacks, and even by the Orthodoxy to prevent the spread of Protestantism. Tell me why gay marriage is wrong for our society - why it shouldn't be legal - don't try to dodge the question.
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        by My Two Cents on Feb 2, 2012 at 04:18 PM in reply to Truth
        I have given you reason after reason after reason. Just go back and read my posts and responses to you. I'm not going to keep repeating them. A better response from you and those that favor this would be, "I don't like your reasons," not to keep saying, "That isn't a reason(s)." I hear your reason, which is because you just don't like the rules and think somehow this is about equality or civil rights. It is not. This is about a behavior. Civil and equal rights extend to race & your sex, not your behavior. I hear your reason, I understand it, but I don't like it or believe it is valid. Now why can't you and those who favor gay marriage do the same thing. You don't have to like what the opposition is saying, but to just keep repeating the same tired questions asking why people oppose it when they tell you over and over again shows either your lack of intelligence, understanding, or desire to want to keep arguing because you actually know they're right and the only way to keep this argument going is to never acknowledge that and just continue to ask more questions.
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          by Truth on Feb 2, 2012 at 04:46 PM in reply to My Two Cents
          You've given me nothing but illogical reasoning and the claim that, "It's wrong because I think it's wrong." The only other reasons I've heard is, "because it's nasty", and "Because the bible says so." None of these are valid reasons for anyone to deny equal rights to gays. None. You have no proof it damages society. You have no proof that it hurts you in any way. You just don't like it. That's a pretty shallow reason to discriminate against millions of people who are only seeking to enjoy the same legal rights as you. Civil rights should extend to sexual orientation...don't you feel you were created with the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of your own happiness? Doesn't that include who you are as a human being? Isn't your straight sexual orientation part of that?
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      by Anonymous on Feb 2, 2012 at 10:18 AM in reply to My Two Cents
      Slippery slope fallacy. Next.
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      by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 10:28 AM in reply to My Two Cents
      What are you talking about- a society of laws, rules and morals. I don't know to many people that have really good moral when it comes to marriage or sex> non-biblicaly> you ever entertain yourself watching the evening TV programs ? "HA"
  • by My Two Cents Location: ENC on Feb 1, 2012 at 04:43 PM
    As far as being gay, people are free to do what they want. As far as gay marriage, people want to make something “legal” that is not, and is something those of most faiths believe is a union created by God. That’s where this issue becomes the business of others, and why they are trying to protect the institution of marriage. For people to turn a blind eye to this is to turn a blind eye to God, when they have the ability to do something about it. It is no different than someone proposing to legalize murder. Regardless of the Commandment “Thou shalt not murder,” society has deemed this unacceptable. If all of a sudden scores and scores of people wanted to “legalize” murder, should we allow it? The answer is no. Not just for religious reasons, but because it is not right to do because we are a country of rules, laws, regulations and morals. That is the same argument against gay marriage. It is not right, we cannot make it right just because we make it “legal.”
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      by Truth on Feb 1, 2012 at 05:18 PM in reply to My Two Cents
      What a rambling, incoherent mess! Gay people are not asking for churches to be forced to marry them. They are asking for equal federal status as a couple, which our government defines as a "marriage". It's a word. It means different things to different people. Comparing murder to legalizing gay marriage is like comparing apples to Chevrolets. First of all, murder has a definite, negative impact on other people and society. What demonstrable proof do you have that gay marriage does the same? Keep in mind not all straight people can create offspring.
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        by My Two Cents on Feb 1, 2012 at 05:36 PM in reply to Truth
        Truth, I already explained why people are against this. If they don't believe it is something God condones how do you expect them to approve it? It has nothing to do with what you say is "a negative effect on society." And yes, marriage does have legal benefits for those who are married, that is why it is a special union and why it needs to be protected. And it is the same thing as trying to legalize anything else that is not legal. And let me ask you this question? Say gay marriage is okayed. Where does it end. Why can’t three men get married, or more, or three women? Why do you have to be a certain age to get married? Why can’t we marry animals? Aren’t you violating someone’s rights by denying them what they want to do? What difference does it make to you or society if we throw all all the rules when it comes to marriage and say anything goes? Let anybody do anything they want? And if we can do anything we want when it comes to marriage, throw out all the rules, then let’s throw out all the rules we live by and just have a free for all!!!
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          by Truth on Feb 1, 2012 at 05:58 PM in reply to My Two Cents
          "how do you expect them to approve it?" Because GOD doesn't run this country and we don't live in a theocracy. I hope they'll open their eyes and see it isn't about what they think their religion tells them. "it is the same thing as trying to legalize anything else that isn't legal." - So I guess we should just stop passing new laws altogether, then! Why do you have a problem with multiple, consenting adults getting married? I see no issue there. It's not like most straight couples preserve the sanctity of a ceremonial marriage anyway. Animals are unable to provide consent or make rational adult decisions, just like children. Ergo, they are unable to fully understand marriage or sexual relationships. It's akin to rape. No one is asking to throw out all the rules, just the stupid ones. You still haven't provided a good, non-biblical reason for why gays shouldn't also enjoy the same rights as straight married couples.
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          by Obama Snake Oil Co on Feb 2, 2012 at 07:10 AM in reply to My Two Cents
          America is a christian judeo society and was founded by the fathers to be just that. Whether you like it or not, Truth, its the way it is. You can tell us seperation of church and state and the other spew you hurl, but it is and never was written into the constitution. It is a rumor liberals spew without proof as it cannot be found in the constitution. I suggest you become more learned on Jefferson, until then, its just idealogogy and theory on your part. Our eye are open to the facts, your are still trapped on ideals pushed by progressive liberal theory.
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          by Truth on Feb 2, 2012 at 08:18 AM in reply to My Two Cents
          I think the First Amendment says all you need to know about what our founding fathers wanted for this country in regards to religion. If they wanted it to be a Christian society, then why did they include the right to practice whatever religion or lack thereof we wanted? Your reply adds nothing to the post being discussed, you have merely butted in, rambling about whatever. Just do us all a favor and go back to The Blaze and high-five your buddies over there.
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          by Anonymous on Feb 2, 2012 at 10:20 AM in reply to My Two Cents
          Say a black guy and a white woman get married, where does it end? It's the same thing as trying to legalize anything else that is not legal. Why can't a black and a Hispanic couple marry? Why can't a Asian and a white couple marry? Aren't you violating someone's elses rights by denying them what they say they want to do? Also slippery slope fallacy, next.
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      by Sick of this on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:43 PM in reply to My Two Cents
      Give up the rights of marriage and let god take care of you. Let god provide support for your partner that you can't insure because your relationship isn't legal. Let god visit your partner in the hospital because your relationship isn't legal. It's not a religious institution, it's a civil institution. If you want it to be strictly religious, give up the legal benefits.
  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Feb 1, 2012 at 07:09 AM
    And to the fools that keep citing "Seperation of Church and State". Can you please tell us where in the constitution that is written? You cannot, it does not exist, its made up.
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      by Truth on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
      Just because it's not written does not mean it's not a real concept. The idea is that the government doesn't endorse any particular religion. By making certain religious things mandatory to all citizens or passing laws founded solely on religious belief, this constitutional oath not to endorse a religion is broken. By agreeing not to interfere with matters of the church, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, the government stays out of mandating their worship or intra-church practices. Would you want the government to step in and tell the pastor what to preach? Would you want a muslim preacher passing bills that forced you to abide by his religious laws? Of course not. There's a dividing line there. It's a good thing, too.
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        by Obama Snake Oil Co on Feb 2, 2012 at 07:11 AM in reply to Truth
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          by Anonymous on Feb 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          No you're Chrisitian, the nation isn't. If it was we'd have a national religion. And we'd live in a theocracy, since we don't logically we cannot be a Christian nation.
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          by Truth on Feb 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          It's not found in actual written words because it's a concept - just like our right to privacy, the separation of powers, and other CONCEPTS that are understood from the constitution but don't actually exist as actual written words within it. Also, I'm not a Christian. I'm an atheist. I'm also an American citizen. Once again another failed argument from OSOC.
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          by Obama Snake Oil co on Feb 2, 2012 at 04:00 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, what did you say? So you worship the aethist religion? But its not actually written in the constitution that we have freedom of religion yet you have no problems of persecuting mine for not wanting abortion or birth control and made sure laws were passed to violate it. OK, I get it. Sorry to burst you bubble, christian judeo....say it...it was founded on it and if you could read, you could find its a fact. Suggest Jefferson...and if you think you can lay down facts to disscredit him on it....how much time do you need to post responses? You cannot win since its a fact, regardless of liberal rewrite. In your statment, you better learn what Sheria Law means....Christian Judeo...get used to it and wellcome to the United States....and our constitution.
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          by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:34 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Atheism isn't a religion. But under the Constitution you have the freedom to not practice a recognized religion. And I don't think you understand what real persecution actually is. And the better question is really, why are you making an argument about abortion in a topic about gay marriage? It's been proven multiple times, but multiple people (both in this topic and in reality) that the country wasn't founded to be a Christian society. That is what we call a fact. I suppose just like evolution though, this is one of the convient facts that you'll ignore? OSOC, you represent everything that's wrong with American in one single poster. You're overly religious, you're bigoted, you ignore facts and reason and you're narrowminded. This isn't the 1800's anymore OSOC, the rest of the nation is progressing, when are you going to catch up, or are you just going to get left behind?
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          by Obama Snake Oil Co on Feb 3, 2012 at 06:18 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Simple, abortion, homosexual behaviour and birth control are being pushed through past my belief and violating my 1st amendment right by having me pay for it. Yeah, normal comeback from a liberal is "but how can homosexual behaviour cost you anything?". If you think my tax money doesn't go to fund AIDS research and drug treatments for AIDS, you are merely a fool.
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          by Truth on Feb 3, 2012 at 07:41 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Well, my belief is that it's OK to have abortion and birth control. Now my 1st amendment rights are being violated. See how that works? Now you concoct some ridiculous strawman argument about AIDS and having to pay taxes because, of course, only gay people have AIDS...just stop posting, please. You're making all of eastern NC dumber and dumber.
  • by Steve Location: Ayden on Jan 30, 2012 at 08:11 PM
    It is idiotic how people are trying to equate stoning and beheadings to getting free birth control. Nobody is saying that you can not get or use birth control just like you are now but you are forcing an organization who has the 1st Amendment Right to their religious beliefs. This is about more people getting more stuff "free".
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      by Obama Snake Oil co on Jan 31, 2012 at 09:50 AM in reply to Steve
      Wrong steve, its about government forcing us to add birth control and abortive devices on our catholic universities and hospitals. Murder is a mortal sin and paying for it makes us accessory to it.
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        by Anonymous on Jan 31, 2012 at 01:42 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil co
        Pretty sure God would be smart enough to make the distinction, and if he/she/it isn't then is it really a god you want to believe in?
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          by Obama Snake Oil co on Feb 1, 2012 at 06:12 AM in reply to
          Obviously, you know nothing about the doctrine of the church....
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          by Anonymous on Feb 1, 2012 at 01:35 PM in reply to
          Is hypocricy part of that doctrine?
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          by Bishop Right on Feb 4, 2012 at 02:03 PM in reply to
          Hypocrisy has always been part of our doctrine. That's why we deny our own the opportunity to have sexual relations while we fully know it is a normal instinctual drive. We WANT them molesting your kids! Why you ask? Because we HATE and want to CONTROL you!! And it works because you allow it! HAHAHAHA!!!
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        by Truth on Jan 31, 2012 at 02:28 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil co
        Wait...can't you just believe in Hay-soos and repent seconds before you die? Problem...solved.
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          by Obama Snake Oil co on Jan 31, 2012 at 03:26 PM in reply to Truth
          Nope!
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          by Anonymous on Feb 3, 2012 at 05:35 AM in reply to Truth
          Why not? I don't recall anything in the Bible that says you can't repent on your death bed and be forgiven.
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