Wild Horse Herd On Corolla Could Double After Bill Approval

A recently passed bill in the House of Representatives could soon double the size of the herd of wild horses on Corolla.

Republican Reprsentative Walter Jones says his bill, "The Corolla Wild Horses Protection Act," has unanimously passed through the House of Representatives.

According to the congressman's website, the bill calls for a new management plan that would allow the number in the herd to be between 110 and 130 horses. The current number allowed is 60.

According to Jones, equine genetic scientists say there should be at least 110 horses in the herd to keep it going. The bill now moves onto the Senate for approval.

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  • by dixie Location: wanchese on Feb 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM
    I used to sit at my grandmother feet and have her to tell me about the horses at Jockey Ridge. She was born in 1866 live here her whole life. I know that horses were here then, so VINCE where were you then??? you must be having a brain cramp,,, cause if you were here before then you mind is completely gone.
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      by Vince on Feb 8, 2012 at 07:18 PM in reply to dixie
      I will type this real slow so you can better understand. I am older than any feral horse alive on the OBX today. I was here before the horses that are currently there. Just because they were here a long time doesn't mean they belong there. That is an incredibly weak argument. We lived for years with lead in our paint. Then we had to stop. Using your argument we should have kept using lead-based paint. It's a ludicrous argument. The horses don't belong there, they are devastating to the natural ecosystem of the barrier islands, and they should be removed.
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        by LLFMN on Feb 9, 2012 at 03:59 AM in reply to Vince
        So you've outlived their ancestors too. ROFLMAO!!!
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          by Vince on Feb 9, 2012 at 08:06 PM in reply to LLFMN
          Think about what you just wrote. Yes, I have outlived their ancestors. Or, at least I'm older than the ancestors that currently live there. Again, this "they were here before you" argument is incredibly weak. They weren't here before humans. So, using your argument, they should be gone. And, you are right..... they should be gone. Thanks so much for helping me make this point.
  • by Little Late for Measures Now on Feb 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM
    They are inbred. Look at the adoption website. Not an assortment of colors to pick from. Not a very attractive pony anymore physically speaking. Fine time now to decide to increase the herd size. I'd say limiting the human population would be a start. Let the herd size grow to 200. Of course, a true "wild" equine wouln't allow people to set children on it's back for pics, wouldn't even allow a human that close to it. So let's just call them semi-feral. The mustangs out West, well, they are not the true wild horses either. They are untamed feral horses.
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      by Vince on Feb 8, 2012 at 07:14 PM in reply to Little Late for Measures Now
      Genes from other horses have also been introduced into the gene pool. They are no longer the "pure strain" wild horses that were released there hundreds of years ago. We are perpetuating a feral animal simply because it is charismatic. It makes no sense from an environmental perspective. They do not belong there.
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        by LLFMN on Feb 9, 2012 at 03:59 AM in reply to Vince
        Wasn't a "pure strain" the start with. Just colonial horses that got loose. Doesn't matter how they got loose. The only true wild horse is the Przewalski's horse.But enough of that argument. If you don't like the horses, move, cause when it comes down to it, they were there before you.
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          by Vince on Feb 9, 2012 at 08:04 PM in reply to LLFMN
          Exactly!! That's why it's in quotes. The lineage is of feral horses.... domesticated horses that were let loose to roam free on the islands. And since they were released more recent genes have been added to the population. So, we are dealing with a feral domestic animal that isn't even the original genetic stock that was originally released. We are slowly getting to the point. They don't belong there.
  • by SierraLeigh Location: jax on Feb 8, 2012 at 08:53 AM
    Vince I can somewhat see where you might be coming from in terms of environmental effects but you really haven't stated factually how much of a negative impact is being made that justifies the idea that they should be placed into private ownership. I'm not an environmentalist or scientist so forgive my ignorance on either the condition of the islands because of the horses living there or the horses themselves. I think I'm a little confused by your word "non-native". I know what native means but the horses currently inhabiting our islands are not seemingly the same ones that originally existed on them after being shipwrecked or pushed overboard of of a floundering ship. The horses that originally inhabited our islands....where they not horses that changed and adapted to the lifesyle they are currently living now, (becoming smaller, digging for brackish water, thriving on the salt grasses...not a normal diet for your every day horse), hence allowing an argument that maybe the current form of horse that is there could be considered native because of the adaptation to the limited options available to them on our islands? Don't get me wrong, I totally understand controlling the population but completely privatizing them does not seem to be a valid argument. They are still an incredible part of our history and I feel sure that the environmental quality of our islands and the current existence of these wild banker ponies can be monitored and balanced so both aren't affected in a negative manner. For anyone interested, I found a really cool timeline below about the horses arrival here. :) http://www.shacklefordhorses.org/timeline.htm
  • by Vince Location: Washington on Feb 7, 2012 at 06:15 PM
    Ignorance is bliss. The horses were not there before we were. What does "we" even mean? I know I've been here longer than any of the horses have. Also, humans were here long before the horses were (by tens of thousands of years). Please don't be so narrow-sighted to believe that humans didn't get here until Europeans discovered land in this hemisphere. These horses were introduced. By people. People created this undesirable situation, and we should fix it. These are nonnative, destructive animals that destroy the natural ecosystem. They should not be there. If you want them to perist, pay to put them in private ownership. People made the mistake of releasing these creatures on the barrier islands. We should fix this mistake to stop these animals from destroying our natural ecosystems. Don't let the charismatic nature of these animals fool you. What if it was wild dogs, poisonous snakes, or rodents that had been introduced to the barrier islands? If you wouldn't support those animals being on the barrier islands, then you shouldn't support the horses being there. They don't belong there. Why let this human error continue to degrade the barrier islands' natural ecosystems. Do some research and become educated on the issue. Please don't be an uneducated fool like Josh.
  • by CritterLover on Feb 7, 2012 at 11:09 AM
    Vince, they were there before we were (they came over with the Spanish during the 1500's-1600's), therefore I believe WE are nonnative. We're the ones devestating the natural ecosystems. Last I checked, critters weren't responsible for the rise in greenhouse gases causing climate change...
  • by Vince Location: Washington on Feb 7, 2012 at 09:24 AM
    No no no no!!!! When are we going to do the environmentally-responsible thing and eradicate these horses from our barrier islands? These nonnative, destructive, feral creatures need to be removed before more ecological damage is done. They either need to be euthanized or transferred to private ownership. They should not be allowed to continue devastating our natural ecosystems on the barrier islands. The USFWS and NPS doesn't want them on their properties, they do not belong there, and they should be gone..... not doubled in population.
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      by ryan on Feb 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM in reply to Vince
      i hope your kidding. they were here long before people started building on that land!!!
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      by Sand fiddler on Feb 7, 2012 at 06:31 PM in reply to Vince
      I agree with Vince. Maybe keep a couple of dozen around for historic reasons but otherwise give them to some of these "critterlovers". The ecology of the coast has taken too much damage already. I suggest getting rid of some yankee dingbatters from virginia beach would be a good thing too, if we can find someone willing to adopt them.
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        by CritterLover on Feb 8, 2012 at 05:14 AM in reply to Sand fiddler
        They're HORSES. Let them BE. I think that everyone who has read this thread has lost at least an IQ point or two after reading your and Vince's comments.
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          by Vince on Feb 8, 2012 at 07:19 AM in reply to CritterLover
          Ah, the old fall back when you have no argument for your side of an issue.... try to infer your opponent is stupid or ignorant. However, in this instance, you are the one not educated on this subject. It's a shame you have let the charismatic nature of this destructive creature fool you. They do not belong there. Humans brought them here, so the degradation of the these natural ecosystems are ultimately the fault of humans. We should correct this and allow what's left of the barrier islands to persist without this menace. I'm only fighting for the natural ecology of the islands. I have nothing against the horses themselves if they are transferred to private ownership. But they do not belong on the islands as the free-ranging, destructive species they are. Instead of saying those that don't have the same opinion as you are stupid, make an effort to become as educated on the subject as they are.
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      by dixie on Feb 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM in reply to Vince
      My Grandmother was born here(Wanchese) in 1867 and I used to sit and hear her talk about what was here when she was a kid and how they took boats to Jocky Ridge,, there was even horses on Jockey Ridge back then but we push them up when houses were being built. now VINCE where were you back then???? you been here longer than the horses??? how old are you now????
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        by Vince on Feb 8, 2012 at 07:07 PM in reply to dixie
        Where's your grandma now? I'm older than any horse on the OBX. So, I have been here longer than the horses. Your argument is weak. Because humans screwed up hundreds of years ago we should continue mistake??
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      by Anonymous on Feb 8, 2012 at 03:47 PM in reply to Vince
      They may not be native but in no way are they invasive.
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        by Vince on Feb 8, 2012 at 07:08 PM in reply to
        Destructive.... they alter and ultimately destroy the natural ecosystem of the barrier islands. Educate yourself. I'm trying, but it's not sinking in.
  • by Formerly Pirateman on Feb 7, 2012 at 09:04 AM
    That ole Walter Jones. After 18 years up there he can really get things done to improve the country. He sure has alotta influence. Buddy, he really sticks his neck out there for the good of the country- renaming things like food, departments, etc. AND saving horses.
  • by Anonymous on Feb 7, 2012 at 07:25 AM
    It is very important to the people who love Carolla and the most northern parts of the outer banks. This issue is very important to them.
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      by Anonymous on Feb 7, 2012 at 08:26 AM in reply to
      Yep, all 500 of them. What about the rest of his constituents, the ones who need jobs?
  • by Great news on Feb 7, 2012 at 06:11 AM
    This was a nice piece of legislation
  • by Egghead on Feb 7, 2012 at 05:50 AM
    Jones has a BS from Atlantic Christian College; good school but not known for its scholarship. Just how you you measure Jones' scholarship? Any scholarly publications to his credit? I doubt if he majored in French!
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      by What?? on Feb 7, 2012 at 07:57 AM in reply to Egghead
      Never heard of that school. Sounds like a community college thats run from a strip mall.....
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        by Anonymous on Feb 7, 2012 at 08:25 AM in reply to What??
        Close, I think it's now called "Barton College." Jones is a washout, if he didn't have his daddy's name he'd be nobody.
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