Teachers Group Promises Lawsuit Over Veto Vote

North Carolina's largest teacher lobbying group says the Republican-led override of Gov. Beverly Perdue's veto, considered as punishment for the organization, won't weaken its political and issues advocacy.

North Carolina Association of Educators President Sheri Strickland held a news conference Thursday, hours after the House voted in a late-night session to cancel Perdue's veto. The law means group members can no longer have dues deducted directly from teacher paychecks.

Both Perdue and Strickland said Thursday the Legislature acted in a way counter to the state constitution. An association lawyer said the group plans to sue and challenge the new law.

Strickland said there are other ways to collect dues beside automatic deductions and believes the GOP action will only strengthen their membership.

(Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

The Republican-led Legislature has overridden Gov. Beverly Perdue's veto of a bill that eliminates the ability of North Carolina's largest teachers' group to have dues deducted directly from teacher paychecks.

The House barely got enough votes early Thursday to cancel the Democratic governor's veto, thanks to the absences of some Democratic members and Republican maneuvers. The legislation was designed to target the North Carolina Association of Educators.

Republican leadership used the bill to target the association in part because of its political activities supporting Democrats in the 2010 elections.

The General Assembly initially returned to work Wednesday to consider a Perdue veto that blocked a bill that would eliminate key provisions of the 2009 Racial Justice Act. The Senate overrode that veto, but the House didn't have the votes.
(Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Governor Perdue's office reacted with a press release shortly after the veto override. "The Republicans in the General Assembly didn't have the votes to get what they wanted legally," Perdue said. "So, in the dark of night, they engaged in an unprecedented, unconstitutional power grab. I am saddened for the people of North Carolina that the Republicans abused their power and chose this destructive path."

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  • by Dave Location: Wilson on Jan 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM
    I can not pick and choose to have money directly deducted from my paycheck for a organization I choose to join. Can I do it for the NRA? Could I do it if the money was going to the Tea Party? Could I do it if the money was going to the Republican Party? The answer to all of those is NO!! This anti-Republican group was getting a benefit that nobody else gets.
  • by Anonymous on Jan 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM
    I work for a company in the east that has a union workforce. We are a Fortune 500 company. Point is, I volunteer to be in this union. I volunteer to have dues deducted from my paycheck. If I want to leave the union, I can STOP HAVING THE DUES removed from my paycheck. The choice is MINE. Not so with teachers. I'm not really a "good" union member, but it does protect my seniority, guarantee my contract benefits, and keeps me from getting fired if I mess up... although we can get 1 week, or 2 weeks off and if you have a major offense the company can still fire you.
  • by Lenny Location: ENC on Jan 7, 2012 at 08:39 PM
    I have two daughters that got 4 years of College education here in NC to teach our children and to make a difference in the lives of these young people. I see how hard they work, the long hours at school and the many more at home that nobody will see. The pay they get is shameful for the work they do and all teachers do. At every turn these Conservatives run teachers down, want to cut spending all while thier children go to private school. Now they play a game and want to stop dues from being collected. What are they affraid of, teachers, are you kidding me, where would any of us be without the teachers that taught us, the real problem is in the homes, that is where it starts and they can't control that, give them a break.
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      by Anonymous on Jan 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM in reply to Lenny
      we don't want to stop dues from geing collected... we want the teachers to have a CHOICE of whether or not they want to join the union and willingly pay said dues. As it was... the teachers DID NOT have a choice. Union dues was like a ransom if you wanted to teach.
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        by Anonymous on Jan 8, 2012 at 03:19 PM in reply to
        NCAE is not required. You have to join. Once again it is not and never has been a union. Most of you that complain about teachers are like broken records. People correct you, tell you where you can find the actual facts, and yet you still continue to post the same lies over and over.
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      by Formerly Pirateman on Jan 9, 2012 at 07:29 AM in reply to Lenny
      Gee! I wonder why people in NC who can afford it send their kids to private school. Are your daughters intelligent enough to figure that one out. Or, are you one of those types that think ALL teachers are perfect, until and if, of course, they are caught fooling around with their students.
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        by Anonymous on Jan 9, 2012 at 09:26 AM in reply to Formerly Pirateman
        Religion, child has been kicked out of public school, racism, smaller class sizes, more one on one attention, closer to their home, keep up with Mr. and Mrs. Jones, social problems, fooled into thinking it is much better than public school, etc. There are parts of this country that private schools are a lot better than public schools. In most of ENC it is not the case especially in the higher grades.
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          by Anonymous on Jan 9, 2012 at 02:58 PM in reply to
          "fooled into thinking it's better than public schools", "racism"! LOL Conspiracy theorist!
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        by Anonymous on Jan 9, 2012 at 07:44 PM in reply to Formerly Pirateman
        Oh my daughters can figure alot more than that out my friend. Not all teachers are perfect and I know alot of firemen, policemen, executives, owners of businesses and our great leaders of this country that are not perfect either. Nobody is perfect but some do more good than others and teachers as a whole are one of them.
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          by Formerly Pirateman on Jan 10, 2012 at 08:51 AM in reply to
          Yawn! :O
  • by 40some on Jan 7, 2012 at 01:37 PM
    An organization that has been part of this state's education system for how long? We're still 49th in education? Sounds like they are part of the problem. A good teacher, and a great teacher, should need no representation. His/her work would speak for itself. In government, it's tough enough to get rid of a sorry employee without someone else's interfereance
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      by Anonymous on Jan 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM in reply to 40some
      and a teacher that is NOT good at their job should be able to be fired... like you and I are at our jobs.
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      by Anonymous on Jan 8, 2012 at 03:21 PM in reply to 40some
      The reason most teachers join has nothing to do with their performance. It has to do with being falsely accused. Most join for the liability insurance in case they are sued. PENC is very similar except they are not as political. I wonder if they will no longer be able to have their dues drafted as well?
  • by leo Location: enc on Jan 6, 2012 at 02:05 PM
    What the needy greedy teachers do not understand that this is the begining of a union. The law makers just want you to understand where your money goes. If you have to write the check every month then you may think twice before letting someone speak on your behalf all the time. I use to be a state employee and did not elect to join the state employee assoc. Once the union takes hold then the next thing is you will be required to pay into and pay for their income.
  • by Anonymous on Jan 6, 2012 at 12:19 PM
    Talk about lying, is Votto your real name? HaHaHaHa
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      by Votto on Jan 6, 2012 at 01:38 PM in reply to
      Is anonymous yours?
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        by Anonymous on Jan 6, 2012 at 02:31 PM in reply to Votto
        Yes, it is! I am as honest and straightforward as you!
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        by Obama Snake Oil co on Jan 6, 2012 at 03:34 PM in reply to Votto
        Is that the best you can do? Votto the dodo, I think you could do better than that. I suggest you finish and education, go to church and finally get a job after your 11 years in college. You parents could use a break.
  • by Anonymous on Jan 6, 2012 at 10:29 AM
    All you post is hate towards teachers. What, did you not get hired as one so now all you do is put us down? Seriously, this is a blatant attempt by the GOP to "get back" at the NCAE because they don't like each other. Tillis and crew are petty and not out for the best interests of our state on the majority of manners. Fix the economy, not worry about the NCAE.
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      by Eastern NC on Jan 7, 2012 at 12:17 PM in reply to
      Speaking of best interest, what has the NCAE done for you lately?
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        by Anonymous on Jan 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM in reply to Eastern NC
        you mean other than take funds out of my paycheck before I even recieve my pay check ? ummmm.. let me think.
  • by 190dave Location: Beaufort on Jan 6, 2012 at 06:50 AM
    Just another indication that we have a bunch of petty fools as leaders. Throw them all out at the next election.
  • by Anonymous on Jan 6, 2012 at 06:03 AM
    Then they need to do the same thing across the board. There are many organizations that use payroll deduction to pay dues. Why do they not have to stop?
  • by Why?? on Jan 6, 2012 at 05:13 AM
    Why was NCAE the ONLY association that was targeted? There are several other associations that will continue to be allowed to do the pay check deductions. This bill is petty and there are so many other things that should be discussed in the education system other than paycheck deductions. It was a petty attempt to hurt this specific association because they are the loudest advocates for the education system. My issue is not that they do not want the teachers to use paycheck deduction- it is that they targeted one sole group out of malice.
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      by Anonymous on Jan 6, 2012 at 05:37 AM in reply to Why??
      advocates for the education system? Where were they when the budgets werre being slashed? They did nothing! useless fools all!
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        by Why?? on Jan 6, 2012 at 06:31 AM in reply to
        They were speaking up loud and clear. They held rallies, marches, and conventions. All they can do is let themselves be heard and they do.
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          by Anonymous on Jan 6, 2012 at 12:13 PM in reply to Why??
          Dang right! Rallies, maaaaches, and wooowheee CONVENTIONS!!!!
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          by Anonymous on Jan 7, 2012 at 04:11 AM in reply to Why??
          no, they rolled over and took it like good little dimocratic slaves! They did what thier ploitical masters told them to do.

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