AP Sources: Democrats Reach Deal To Drop Public Option From Health Bill

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says liberal and moderate Democrats have reached a "broad agreement" on whether to include a government-run insurance option in the health care overhaul bill.

He's not providing details, but several officials say it's being dropped. In its place, they say Democrats have tentatively settled on a private insurance arrangement that would be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage.

They say the deal also calls for Medicare to be opened to uninsured Americans beginning at age 55. That would be a significant expansion of the government health care program that currently serves those 65-and-older.

The developments followed a Senate floor vote in which abortion opponents failed to insert tougher restrictions into the bill.


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  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Dec 13, 2009 at 01:55 PM
    isit2012yet, funny, the polls show a big change in party control. That is probably why they are shoving this terd hard. Like Wow, relentless, didn't read the bill and choose the liberal web sites for dissinformation and posts like they are informed. Rassmussen has Reid and Pelosi at their lowest ratings yet. Not just US but California. If they pass healthcare, the democratic party will no longer be the hope and change, it will be doom and gloom. By the way, the village idiot is in DC holding down the whitehouse, don't count on him.
  • by isit2012yet? on Dec 13, 2009 at 10:08 AM
    Better cram it through fast dems..Rasmussen poll was at -19 today. The villagers are grabbing the torches and pitchforks looks like!
  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Dec 13, 2009 at 04:47 AM
    Yes Wow, that seems to be the point of the democrats, keep telling this lie about denial and eventually, someone will believe it. So, you imply Rassmussen is wrong? I would take this as you are wrong for pushing the agenda for UHC. The DNC is out of touch of reality, as usual, and will be cleaned out in 2010. Even Nancy and Harry will be out. Why? You wish to guess on that one?
  • by Wow Location: Greenville on Dec 12, 2009 at 09:30 PM
    Ok man, whatever you say. Keep bustin' those facts out hard left and right! Eventually you will be right if you keep it up long enough!
  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Dec 12, 2009 at 01:43 PM
    Wow, none of the afformentioned programs are worth a darn. None of them. Being that my mother is on medicare and really upset that democrats, she voted for, want to cut her program. If mother isn't happy, no one is happy. So, since you brought up the VA hospitol where my father died, due to a routine gall bladder surgery to remove stones, your point is? You are wrong about "us" supporting socialits healthcare. Go to Rassmussent to get the real numbers. Obviously, your DNC info flyer is out of touch with reality. Medicare sucks and I am sure this overpriced program, that no one wants, will too. Why? Because nothing the government runs works efficiently. By the way, who is going to pay for this program that the country doesn't have the money for? Are you prepared for a revolution if these social programs are pushed? I hope you can defend yourself, many are buying and have bought weapons....sort of like they did in the revolutionary war......
  • by Wow Location: Greenville on Dec 11, 2009 at 06:04 PM
    As usual, your complete inability to read or comprehend anything I posted does not surprise me, Snake Oil. You posted - "foolish and completely ignorant, is expecting American taxpayers to support healthcare run by the government." We already do. Medicaid and Medicare, the VA, and Federal Healthcare are 'government healthcare'. As shown previously, but you failed to actually read, people using these programs are far more satisfied when them than comparable private health insurance. So, yes, the American public supports 'socialist' healthcare, most of them just do not even realize they are using it. It is an amazing disconnect to hear someone say, "No socialist health insurance!! Get your hands of my Medicare!!" When MEDICARE IS SOCIAL HEALTH INSURANCE. Thanks again for trying to somehow use obamacare as a substitute to argue against what I am really talking about, real UHC. Stay classy.
  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Dec 11, 2009 at 05:23 AM
    Wow, what is foolish and completely ignorant, is expecting American taxpayers to support healthcare run by the government. Take your socialist/communist doctrine to some other country. Maybe you are not aware of our 12 Trillion dollar debt, but the rest of us are. Aparently, there are two parallel worlds going on; one that sees fiscal responsibility and the other who spends more than they can ever pay back. Statistics showed that even with this 2 trillion dollar healthcare bill, 22 million people will still not be covered. Dump this bill till you come up with something right. Wow, is the koolaid ready yet!
  • by Wow Location: Greenville on Dec 10, 2009 at 12:11 PM
    As I already said, they are not "all coming here." By and far, the huge majority of people in countries with UHC get treatment in their own country. Someone that doesn't want to wait for an elective procedure and has plenty of money to spend sometimes travels to the US to get the procedure done. In fact, thousands of your fellow Americans travel elsewhere to get medical treatment partly because of the incredibly high expense here. An estimated 750,000 Americans went abroad for health care in 2007, and the report estimated that a million and a half would seek health care outside the US in 2008. The growth in medical tourism has the potential to cost US health care providers billions of dollars in lost revenue. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism)
  • by Wow Location: Greenville on Dec 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM
    Hey Scooter, do you think that somehow private insurance companies are immune from corruption?? You say that the government would run UHC inefficiently but don't you realize that those commercials you see on TV for "Blue Cross" or other private insurance companies - they paid for that commercial with the premiums you (and sometimes your employer) paid. Millions of $$ to lobby congress? Your premiums paid for that. Gigantic paychecks for their CEOs? Your premiums paid for it. All those people you talk to on the phone when you are trying to settle a claim? Your premiums paid for that too. Private insurance companies make a dang fortune on the health care 'industry'. They have all the incentive in the world to cherry-pick customers and deny claims --- more $$$ for them. Their actual overhead is around 25%! Compare this to Canada, where administrative costs are around 12%. Some countries are even less. (http://www.wiretapmag.org/rights/31196/)
  • by Wow Location: Greenville on Dec 10, 2009 at 11:42 AM
    Snakeoil, it is beyond foolish and completely ignorant to look to another country that is doing things better and say, "I don't care how they do it." You obviously have not tried to learn anything, and you don't want to. You continue to erroneously say that what I am talking about is the 'Obamacare' legislation (that I oppose). Do you just hate Government altogether? Maybe you must just be really wealthy? Perhaps the "well is poisoned", as they say. I know about the GDP. I know we spend roughly 15% of it on health care, the highest in the world, and every other country that you don't want to learn from spends LESS than we do and covers EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
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