NEW INFO: Police Shooting Suspect Not In House

Police say the suspect in the slayings of four police officers at a suburban coffee shop was not found in the Seattle home where he was thought to have been holed up.

Negotiators spent the night trying to communicate with 37-year-old Maurice Clemmons, using loudspeakers, explosions and even a robot to try to prod him from hiding. But when they entered the home, he was not there.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said the location of Clemmons is not known, and it's possible he may still be in the neighborhood staked out overnight by Seattle police. Troyer also says people who know Clemmons told investigators that he had been shot in the torso.

He is suspected of killing the officers as they worked at a coffee shop Sunday morning. Clemmons has a long rap sheet, and once had a 95-year prison sentence commuted by the governor of Arkansas.

(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)


Police say a suspect in the coffee-shop slayings of four officers is holed up at a Seattle house, wounded and possibly dead.

Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer says negotiators are still trying to communicate with Maurice Clemmons.

Authorities have been seeking Clemmons in the deaths of four Lakewood police officers gunned down in a Parkland coffee shop on Sunday morning. They believe the gunman may have been wounded by one of the victims.

Late Sunday, they began to focus on the Seattle house, about 30 miles from the crime scene. Negotiators used loudspeakers and explosions to try to prod Clemmons from hiding.



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Shots have been fired at a Seattle house where a man sought in the coffee-shop slayings of four police officers may be holed up.

The widely spaced, deliberate gunfire appeared to be directed toward the house by surrounding police. The shots followed negotiators' use of loudspeakers and explosions to prod Maurice Clemmons. Authorities in the region have been seeking Clemmons in the Sunday morning shootings of four Lakewood officers, about 30 miles from the Seattle house.

There was no audible response from the house. Police spokesman Jeff Kappel had earlier said police weren't sure anyone was in the house, and refused to comment on the negotiator's tactics.



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A gunman who killed four police officers at a coffee shop in Washington may have been wounded by one of the officers.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told reporters Sunday afternoon that one of the officers struggled out the door and fired his gun at the attacker.

Troyer asked clinics and hospitals to report anyone who shows up with a gun wound.

Troyer says two of the officers were shot and killed as they sat at a table Sunday morning, working on their laptops. One was shot standing up. And the fourth fought with the gunman and made it outside and was able to get off some shots.
(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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A sheriff's official in Washington state says four police officers have been shot dead in ambush at a coffee house.

Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told The News Tribune in Tacoma that the officers were sitting in the coffee shop with their computers when the shooter came in Sunday morning.

He says investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery.

Troyer tells the newspaper "it was just a flat out ambush."

He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from.


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  • by Riddle Me This Location: Fox News Lovers on Nov 30, 2009 at 08:46 PM
    Editorial from Timothy Egan: "If Huckabee were a liberal and a Democrat, he would be a punching bag for right wing blowhards an example of clueless, soft-on-crime politicians at their worst. Fox News would be stalking him, as they have others responsible for letting criminals out early". "Back in 1988, when it came to light that Willie Horton committed fresh crimes while out on a weekend furlough program backed by then-Gov. Mike Dukakis of Massachusetts, Republicans used it to help destroy Dukakis the presidential candidate". 'The only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it,' said a gleeful Roger Ailes, then a media consultant to Republicans". "Ailes now runs Fox News. If they decide to hold the politician accountable for early release of a violent felon linked now to a death of four police officers, they know where to find him – in studio, as a Fox News host".
  • by A Former Poster on Nov 30, 2009 at 08:18 PM
    Devil Dog: I am a moderate Repiblican that used to post here but became tired of the inane commentary, incivility, and general unwillingness to respect differences in opinion. I did NOT have these issues with you; we disagreed, but were civil. I fully expected to read this story and see the right wing radicals that largely inhabit this board (again, not you) ignoring the Huckabee link. It was not, thanks to you. For this, I sincerely thank you. That shows character. Bless these officers and many prayers to their families.
  • by Trig Location: Greenville on Nov 30, 2009 at 07:30 PM
    To Barlow: The system was about to fail here in NC, also. Democratic Governor Perdue had the courage to exert her executive power and prevent the system failure. Republican Governor Huckabee had the same executive power but did not have the courage to use it. Talk about not being qualified for the White House...
  • by Well on Nov 30, 2009 at 06:57 PM
    To Vance. How about the white suspect that killed the white Lenoir County deputy and wounded another white deputy in Grifton this year. How about the white suspect that treated the white female trooper like a punching bag? Did they target white officers? What subculture do they belong to?
  • by LW Location: Greenville on Nov 30, 2009 at 04:30 PM
    Well heres another poltician getting people killed again. X governer Huckubee parden this robber, rapist, and now killer. If he was thinking of running for President again he better think again. He wouldn,t get dog catcher now.
  • by Vance on Nov 30, 2009 at 03:59 PM
    To Well:Neo dont half too.What is so vague about this guy gunning down 4 white people.HATE CRIME ALL OVER IT.
  • by Chase on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:59 PM
    This guy targeted a certain group of people which makes it a hate crime.By the way do any of you know he posted $15,000 bail around 10 days ago for raping a 10 year old girl.
  • by Well on Nov 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM
    Neo, could you provide more descriptive detail of this sub culture. Currently it is very vague.
  • by B Location: Greenville on Nov 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM
    Bev Perdue had the guts to do what Mike Huckabee didn't. She keeps the scumbags in jail. Hats off to Gov. Bev. I agree with Devil Dog; forget 2012 Huckabee.
  • by C on Nov 30, 2009 at 09:30 AM
    Barlow: I see your point,but I'll respectfully point out that if Huckabee had'nt commuted the low-life's sentence,he'd still be in prison...and those officers would still be alive.On a different topic,I wonder about all those cop-haters out there [many of whom post on WITN regularly].You know,the ones who always cry "foul" whenever an officer has to strike a suspect who first hit him,or use deadly force to defend himself.How often we hear them say things like "The cop should've shot him in the leg instead of killing him!" The ones who think they know how officers should do their jobs even though they themselves have no law enforcement experience.I do truly wonder what those people think about this incident...I'm betting most of them feel more sympathy for the killer [who doubtlessly had a bad childhood with no strong parental guidance] than they do for the officers.Anyway,as far as the killer himself goes,I hope he meets a violent and painful demise..and soon. Regards,C
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