Health Care Overhaul Bill Debuts Today

The House is due to release a massive health care overhaul bill today, amid grumblings about costs and an ultimatum from President Barack Obama.

A determined president took note yesterday of stalled progress on his domestic centerpiece while he was out of the country, and says he's putting everybody on notice.

Obama says he knows Washington doesn't like making big changes,
but this needs to be done.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she expects a House vote by the August recess. But Pelosi also warned this is only the beginning, and with big differences over how to pay for the massive overhaul, she says more changes to the bill are likely.

By some estimates, the measure could cost $1 trillion over ten years, much of which would be spent to help people who can't afford care.

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  • by Cactus Location: Strabane on Jul 14, 2009 at 02:50 PM
    All employees of cities, counties, states and federal employees as well as Obama's congress are required to have the same insurance. Think I'm asking for too much.
  • by Kat on Jul 14, 2009 at 01:08 PM
    Excuse me I may have read that wrong. Actually I didn't the way it was written made it sound like it would cost 8% of pay rather than tax the employer 8% of a person's pay if they did not give them insurance. It's a penalty charge. But either way everything else I have read about this so called health plan makes me sick to my stomach.
  • by Kat on Jul 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM
    I also just read that they want to take 8% (not just taxing the rich, this will hit the middle class hard) of your pay to pay for this plan if your employment decides to switch to it. I don't know about you but that's much more expensive than my health care already. So That's another big fat NO! I will be glad when the tax revolt begins!
  • by Kat on Jul 14, 2009 at 10:12 AM
    jp: It's not that we don't have a heart. It's that we are already broke. The last thing we need is something else to make us more broke. I do not believe in this health care plan. For one because they are not going to replace all the other programs they have with it. I guarantee those programs will still be there eating our taxes as well. SCHIP, medicare, medicaid, etc. So first off the only way I would agree with this stuff is to kill off all those programs and this be a replacement program that uses the taxes from those programs. I will NOT support any tax increases when there are so many programs out there that they have 3 or more of doing the same thing eating our tax money. There are other programs like this too. Employment security, joblink, etc. We ONLY need one of whatever company they want to help people. If it's not enough then help out that ONE company. NOT TEN. The health care bill is a joke. Helping others is one thing, helping till your broke yourself not so much.
  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Jul 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM
    Barlow, what I meant is I pay for BC&BS insurance every month. It covers me to over a million. By the way, its not the pharmaceutical companies, its the pharmacies that make all the money, trust me, this one I know for fact. This is why Canada and Mexico have their drugs for a lot less money than we pay. No one dies in America since healthcare is not denied to anyone. This is why we are in trouble. JP pays as he goes, well, he should be paying heath insurance. If he was, mine would be cheaper instead, my insurance and the hospitol pay for it. Where you got the .5% statistic is not shared by the doctors I know. They tell me this is why most retire early. You should go check out the number and get back to us. Stop going to liberal sites, they spew misinformation.
  • by Barlow Location: Winterville on Jul 14, 2009 at 08:48 AM
    Snake Oil, I agree that providing health care for illegals is a tremendous burden. All the more reason to penalize employers who hire them. They hire them BECAUSE they don't have to pay into their insurance, or any benefits for that matter. The cost of malpractice is only about .5% of health care costs so that is not quite so relevant. I hope the other kind of reform, the Health Care Savings Program that Bush suggested is not what you are talking about, because even though you say you "pay out of pocket", I doubt you have a quarter to a half million for a serious illness. As long as health care is for profit we will have a problem in this country. Insurance companies don't make money by paying out, they make money by denying coverage. Pharmaceutical companies don't make money by making cheap drugs. The more needed the drug, the higher the price. You shouldn't have to be rich or game the system to keep from getting really sick or dying in America
  • by jp Location: greenville on Jul 14, 2009 at 08:28 AM
    I feel the people up here have no heart. Everyone can't afford health care and i think its sad that people don't want to help each other out. I pay healthcare out of pocket and i would still give a little here and there to make sure everyone can see a doctor. Would you rather let a person die than to help. I also feel that the president is dont what he feel is best for this country and a health care plan would benefit our country. People stop being so selfish
  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Jul 14, 2009 at 07:54 AM
    Barlow, we are for reform but not this reform. Its about one trillion dollars. The big problem is illegals do not pay their heathcare bills and skip out. Why not, they cannot be traced. This is the real problem in Ca where it cost they 26 Billion per year. Yes, that is Billion. Ca is working on laws now to fix the problem and the US houses are trying to still cover it up. I pay my heathcare out of my pocket and for those that don't pay their bills (mostly illegals). The problem with insurance companies is not rising real costs, its the cost of lawyers going after doctors.
  • by Barlow Location: Winterville on Jul 14, 2009 at 07:19 AM
    Yes, people that don't have health care have access now, but it has nothing to do with Obama. Its called going to the hospital emergency room every time your nose itches because they can't get a doctor to see them (no insurance). That costs YOU big time. It drives up costs for everyone. If you don't think this happens go to your local emergency room and you'll see alot of "non-emergencies" setting around. It is almost like a family reunion for some people and YOU are paying. If you like it don't support any change. We are all one serious illness away from financial ruin because of the system in this country.
  • by Anonymous on Jul 14, 2009 at 06:51 AM
    Most don't realize that people that truly can't afford healthcare still have access now! This is another Obama handout paid for by the hard workers of this country for the people who want something for nothing. Keep messing with the healthcare system and we will end up like Canada, where no one has access to healthcare.
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