Bill Would Require State OK For OLF Site

A North Carolina legislator has filed a bill that would require the Navy to get state permission before it could construct a practice landing field in two northeastern counties.

The Daily Advance of Elizabeth City reported Thursday that Rep. Bill Owens of Pasquotank County filed the bill this week to amend an existing state law. The change would require the Navy to get permission before it could buy land for an outlying landing field in Gates or Camden counties.

The Navy wants the field, either in North Carolina or southeastern Virginia, so carrier jets can practice landings and takeoffs before they deploy. An existing field near a Virginia Beach air base is very busy and too close to many homes that were built after the field.

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  • by Lisa Location: Cherry Point on Apr 1, 2009 at 05:57 PM
    Cherry Point would welcome more squadrons. Virginia will not let the squadrons go...they just want to let the noise go. Give Cherry Point 4-6 more squadrons. We will take it. This is a military base without encroachment.
  • by pee dee Location: jacksonville on Mar 26, 2009 at 01:07 PM
    I wonder how the people in Virginia Beach would feel about the whole base being shut down? Let all of the money from Oceana come to NC! I bet they would change their tune real quick!
  • by pee dee Location: jacksonville on Mar 26, 2009 at 07:13 AM
    In response to the use of Fentress and Chambers Field, they are too close to the curfew zones you talked about.Fentress is seven miles from Oceana.They have to fly straight up after take off to limit "noise". The NAVY is looking for a place to simulate actual take off and landing associated with carrier operations.Chambers is more of a logistics base.It is mainly used for helicopters and transportation of cargo and supplies.It also does not allow the f-18's to simulate actual carrier takeoff and landings.
  • by pee dee Location: jacksonville on Mar 26, 2009 at 05:24 AM
    120 miles is too far to commute.An operational 24/7 "practice field" is a "base".Maybe the NAVY is sugar coating it.I don't know.If it is a 24/7 area then you will have way more than 62 jobs.That alone will only cover the three shifts needed for the emergency fire department.Next you have to throw in security,maintenance,staff,mess hall staff.The list goes on.If it is 24/7,then the pilots from Oceana would have to land there over night and stay somewhere.There are more holes in this than a golf course.Maybe the NAVY is trying to find an area where they can expand and close Oceana?The only point I am trying to make is that it would bring money and revenue to NC.If they put the OLF around Cherry Point, it would meet little, if any,resistance.The "noise" really is not that bad.The people in Virginia Beach are using it as an excuse.Because of the current delay of F-18's to Cherry Point,the area has lost out on millions of potential dollars.I can only assume anyone around an OLF is too.
  • by Anonymous on Mar 25, 2009 at 02:20 PM
    I'm simply repeating Navy statements, and you are right, they are contradicting themselves and changing their criteria. The Navy stated 52 jobs in the beginning, now they are saying 62. First they stated 50 miles from Oceana, then 70, now its 120. They have always stated the OLF would be operational 24/7. An OLF is a feeble attempt to keep Oceana from closing. OLF will not be a base, it will be a practice field, that's all. Va. wants to push the negatives to NC and keep the benefits. The Navy has plenty of underused and abandoned airstrips they could use. Cherry Point has asked for the OLF, hoping it will speed up the 2 squadrons promised.
  • by pee dee Location: jacksonville on Mar 25, 2009 at 12:47 PM
    But you stated that they would fly from Oceana to train and then return.If they are training 24/7 then how do they obey the 11pm to 7am curfew?You can not follow the Oceana curfew and fly at the OLF 24/7!You said it would not be a major base with a lot of action and now you say it will be running constantly?Thats a lot of driving for people back and forth to Oceana as you claim they would not live near the OLF. If they are working 24/7 then that is definitely a whole lot of jobs that will be brought to the area. I am not trying to argue but you keep contradicting yourself to try and make a point.Which statement is correct?I agree that if major wildlife areas are affected that the NAVY needs to make sure they do not harm that area.I did not say that it must be where they are looking. I said that there must be somewhere in NC where we could accomodate them.
  • by Anonymous on Mar 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM The link above is the NC Wildlife Federation's resolution opposing the OLF and will provide a brief description of some of the environmental issues at the NC sites. The 45 min. is per session, not per day, with 7-8 jets arriving at the same time. The not flying from 11pm - 7 am is what is occurring at Oceana, now. No limits for the OLF, the Navy is saying the OLF will be 24/7. That's too much beer for anyone. As one of the posting below states, the Navy has 6 airstrips and an OLF already. If the Navy used them, no additional OLF is needed. The second OLF is to reduce noise at Va. Beach.
  • by pee dee Location: jacksonville on Mar 25, 2009 at 10:34 AM
    (part 2): If the government agrees to limit the night training,you said it would only be for 45 minutes,from 8 to 9 pm or 9 to 10pm,is that really all that bad? Every night from 8 to 10 you will hear jets in the air and then they will be gone.Is that really all that bad so that they can have the proper field they need?Who said they would be flying constantly?Sooner or later they have to return to base and you said that they can not fly after 11pm.All other bases in NC fly non stop.You would have to live with it for maybe two hours a day.Maybe I am an optomist and a lot of people in your area are pessimists.I don't know.If I lived at the "end of runway", I would pop open a beer and enjoy the show.
  • by pee dee Location: jacksonville on Mar 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM
    Anonymous:NOW you are making a valid point!I stated earlier that there should be SOMEWHERE in NC where an OLF will fit. If that area includes danger to important wildlife then I am against it also. By important, I do not mean if a squirrel has to find a new tree.However, I have a problem over any noise complaints.A Harrier flew directly over me yesterday and the noise it made never entered my mind.I was glad to have my tax dollar put to good use instead of having it thrown at AIG.Whenever we have a situation anywhere in the world the first thing out of the President's mouth is..."where are the Aircraft Carriers"?The pilots on those ships will be the first ones thrown into danger and they stand ready to make the ultimate sacrifice for YOU and ME at the drop of a hat.If that means some "noise" here and there then I feel that they deserve a little tolerance from us to allow them to practice.If they practice in the daytime, most people are at work anyway. Who will they bother?(end part 1)
  • by end of runway Location: gates on Mar 24, 2009 at 06:54 PM
    I own 175 acres at the end of proposed runway. Job and money don't matter to me. I worked this farm since I was 5 years old with my dad and Grandad. use what you got!!! DOD owns 30 millions acres !!!!!

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