Greenville Pizza Delivery Driver Shoots Robber
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Posted: 8:39 PM Jun 17, 2008
 Last Updated: 11:39 PM Jun 17, 2008
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A pizza delivery driver fought back at a group of suspects who tried to rob him, pulling out a gun and wounding one of them.

Greenville Police say the incident happened early Monday morning at 1105 A Masters Lane when the Chanellos Pizza driver said three suspects began hitting him as he was delivering the pizzas. Police say the delivery driver then pulled out a gun and began to fire. One of the three robbery suspects was struck. Elvis Deans Junior, a 17 year-old student at South Central High School, is listed in stable but critical condition. He'll be charged with Common Law Robbery and Assault Inflicting Serious Injury.

Police also arrested 18 year-old Thomas James, 18 year-old Sunil Persaud, and 17 year old Kevin Haynie all of Greenville. They are charged with common law robbery. Police also say they charged a 14 year old who they say planned the crime.

The pizza delivery driver was taken to the hospital and was treated and released.
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Posted by: Concerned Location: Greenville on Jan 9, 2009 at 05:42 PM
How about an update to this story
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 1, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Posted by: Obama for President Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 02:29 PM We are going to bring you out of the woods. That's assault and breaking and entering. That CAN be met with deadly force. But please,try to do so against my will.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:55 PM
For those that feel that the pizza man should not have shot Dean. Take a look at this article.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_re_us/homeless_attack Police say teens beat homeless Ohio man to death./CLEVELAND - A group of teenagers beat a homeless man to death as passers-by slowed to watch the attack, some of which was caught on videotape, police said. Anthony Waters, 42, suffered a lacerated spleen and broken ribs during the attack Wednesday night and died at a hospital, police said.The attackers, who appeared to be between ages 14 and 17, robbed Waters of a music player and headphones, police said. No arrests have been made.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Well Rick everyone has different opinions!
Posted by: k Location: exhaustion on Jun 27, 2008 at 11:44 PM
hey p, i know what you are saying--i think the teachers parts need to start in pre k or kindergarten, its true once kids get into fifth grade or so, theyre on their own! i know it is frustrating, ive subbed a few times and known i could not do it for a living. even worse is dealing with parents who dont care and wont do anything. its a joint effort between parents and teachers im talking about. and like obama for president its probably absolute idealism; you cant 'save' everyone. but you can try, right?
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Your parents might be republicans but I've never met one who thought like you before, Brooke.
Posted by: H G Location: Rolesville, N C on Jun 27, 2008 at 03:25 PM
Yea for the delivery driver. It's pass time honest citizens defended themselves. Then maybe the hoodlums will get the message there is a big price to pay that the government will not or cannot enforce. And the price may be immediate and not later or the hoodlum does not get better quarters than at home in paying the price and maybe the price has pain. Yea Yea delivery driver. WAY TO GO MAN!
Posted by: P Location: Fayetteville on Jun 27, 2008 at 03:24 PM
Go get them Pizza man. It all start at home with the thugs. Teachers have enough on their hands with kids behavior issues these days and the parents who won't discipline their kids properly. Teachers do care! But they are tired of the thugs and kids that belong to them because of their behavior.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 27, 2008 at 01:18 PM
Rick don't start with me I think I know me a little better than you do.
Posted by: no-Obama on Jun 27, 2008 at 11:23 AM
The Only thing that banning hand guns or any guns will accomplish is taking a honest persons means of protecting their family away. While leaving the criminals fully armed. Way to go pizza guy.
Posted by: coconut Location: Edenton on Jun 27, 2008 at 10:46 AM
This is for Obama for President. A person's race does not determine a person's actions. It is the choice that an individual makes within themselves. Criminals are like jellybeans, they come in all colors. I am sure that the Pizza Dude would have defended himself in the same manner no matter what race his attackers were. You take care!
Posted by: k Location: location on Jun 27, 2008 at 10:21 AM
hey i think it all goes back to upbringing and schooling. i think parents and teachers need to care who these people are as individuals and care about their personal goals and aspirations--and that they have them! a gang mentality is a group of people mindlessly acting as one big bad criminal, so a gang of 'individuals' could not exist. if youre a black person and youre afraid of your own people, get involved in your community and help make sure the next generation of children are aware that they are individuals, with potential, regardless of their economic situation. it might not help the current situation but apparently nothing will, all we can do is hope for the future... and i think this goes for all races and cultures, anyone can have gang mentality.
Posted by: Obama 08 4 Prez! on Jun 27, 2008 at 01:17 AM
Its a sad thing to say, but I'm black, well rather a pecan tan color, anyway back to what I was saying.....I'm black and sometimes I'm scared of my own people. I'll see a group of guys hanging outside a gas station or Walmart and i will go somewhere else. a crowd of my own skin folk scare me. Get mad, get glad, who cares? A group of young black men outside a place scares me. Don't like what I'm saying then walk it off.
Posted by: I Like That Location: Complex Land Too on Jun 27, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I like that, Simple and Plain. Thanks for pointing that out. So, they can ban handgun yet we still keep our right to bear arms. That is marvelous. We have our 2nd Amendment rights intact AND handguns are a no-no. Who would have thunk that both could co-exist. I mean WOW. It is so simple and plain. Take away the handguns, there are still many more arms to bear. I can bear arms without a hand gun. My right to bear arms is not voided by the ban of handguns. Oh so many ways to say it. Sing it with me! "I cannot own a hand gun, I still have the right to BEAR ARMS! BEAR ARMS! Like short sleeves, I BEAR ARMS! I cannot own a machine gun, I still have the right to BEAR ARMS! BEAR ARMS! Like your hairy momma, I BEAR ARMS! BEAR ARMS! I have a shotgun, I have a rifle, I still have the right to BEAR ARMS! What are those Judges thinking? BEAR ARMS! BEAR ARMS! They are too smart for their own good. They thought long & thought wrong. BEAR ARMS! Ban handguns! BEAR ARMS! Shotgun! Yea."
Posted by: Simple and Plain Location: Complex Land on Jun 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
To Concerned Citizen of Greenville: Please get your facts straight. The citizens of D.C. are allowed their Constitutional right to bear arms. It is very simple, no need for Justices and Lawyers with large vocabularies. Follow this LOGIC: 1) The Constitution gives us the right to bear arms. 2) The Constitution does not give us the right to bear ANY SPECIFIC TYPE of arms. 3) This leaves room for regulation of the types of arms available to citizens. You see, simple. Government may allow me to own a hand gun, I have the right to bear arms. Government may allow me to own a shot gun, I have the right to bear arms. Government may allow me to own a hand gun and a shot gun, I have the right to bear arms. Government may allow me to own a handgun but not a shot gun, I have the right to bear arms. Government may allow me to own a shotgun but not a handgun, I have the right to bear arms. Government tries keep me from owning any type of gun, my rights are violated. You see the difference?
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 08:04 PM
We now have a kinder gentler robbers in Greenville. I guess the local Thugs guild had a meeting and they are going to be nicer to the people they rob so that they wont get shot if they peacefully rob. Three armed robberies reported wed night http://www.reflector.com/local/content/news/stories/2008/06/26/ArmedRobberies.html Richard W. Whitemore Jr., a 19-year-old ECU student, was robbed at gunpoint just before 2 a.m. by several men he described as about 20 years old. He said they followed him when he turned up Holly Street from Fifth hoping to avoid them."They told me to give them all I had. I only had four bucks, so they told me they take Master Card. They let me keep my wallet and ID, though," Whitemore said. He was not injured and described the experience as strange, especially the business-like manner of the robbers. "They were pretty nonchalant, kind of going through the motions. As soon as I gave them my stuff, they were talking about where they were going next," Whitemore said
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 07:20 PM
I'm sure you are, Brooke. Nice try. I think Hope is right and you don't know what you are, and won't for several years.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 06:51 PM
Whats so unreasonable about people wanting a gun for self defense(obama for president)? Why is it that the people of DC and New York city and various other states and cities within the US are not allowed to own guns? What makes these areas so special is that government in these area have disarmed honest citizens and the criminals are loving it because they now have nothing to fear when committing crimes other then the polic Why should I do I have to be dependent on the police to protect my family when I am already there? The problem with waiting for the police to show up is that where I live it can take 10 –30 mins for them to arrive at my location. During that time anything can happen, at least if I am armed if my home is invaded I can attempt to hold off the criminals until the police arrive vs being at there mercy. Or if a disaster hits the are like what happened during floyd or katrina I can defend my family from those who choose to take advantage of the chaos after a big storm.
Posted by: hope Location: NC on Jun 26, 2008 at 06:07 PM
Brooke, let's have this conversation again in a few years. God bless you as you grieve for your friend.
Posted by: Doc Location: G'ville on Jun 26, 2008 at 06:01 PM
I cannot believe that there are some here that are actually defending the thugs and claiming excessive force was used by the real victim. The "Wussification of America" is in full force, I see. It's called the right to protect oneself. It's called the right to get your arse shot if you and your boyz jump and attempt to rob and beat an innocent person. It's also called a great deterrent as those thugs will be less likely to try that in the future, as will others like them that have contemplated the same crime. Who knows...they jumped a pizza guy today, maybe they rob a bank next year, or pull a carjack/murder like the guys in Chapel Hill the following year if they weren't stopped this time. Time to look into obtaining a Concealed Weapons Permit.
Posted by: Katie Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Pizza Man! Your da bomb! Your brave and couragious! Congrats. Though I applaud the be-jezzies out of you, Im happy these thugs didnt have a gun of their own, and it turned bad. Im also happy that you didnt kill these idiots, though they deserved it, because of our laws, it you prob would have been charged with manslaughter....? Maybe? Im not sure about that, but thats questionable.... Though Im happy you are here! and you took care of these idiots! Hey- why are their parents names being released? They should be charged to! Why are their idiot minor children out with nothing better to do than rob someone!?
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 05:08 PM
And lastly I am a Republican.
Posted by: k Location: location on Jun 26, 2008 at 03:11 PM
hey OFP i love those ideals, but thats just what they are, ideals. i like obama but he could just about do a walgreens commercial with his way of thinking. if he wins i hope he can get real and really do something worthwhile. your town is an example of what its like if you dont have a way to defend yourself. you get shot in the head and laughed at by robbers! i hate guns, i hate the thought of using one, and especially the fact that you can end someones life just by pulling a trigger--but most of the people who have these horrible weapons are criminals who need to use them on good citizens to steal, kill, ruin lives, etc, basically bully everyone. i think the top priority in the whole guns issue should be cleaning up the streets and taking all the guns away from criminals. of course there is always intent--9-11 succeeded with box cutter knives. maybe the top priorities should be taking criminals off our streets for good, then we wouldnt need guns. in a perfect world.
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 03:01 PM
Marisol, good points.
Posted by: Obama For President Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 02:34 PM
This is posted on witn's site and I wanted to make sure that I pointed out what will hapen. After cowboy George Dubya is out, we will have a president that will appoint justices that will eliminate the misinterprtation of the 2nd amendment. Read this: WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting, the justices' first major pronouncement on gun rights in U.S. history. The court's 5-4 ruling struck down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns as incompatible with gun rights under the Second Amendment. Obama will likly appoint two judges that will finally eliminate the backwoods, ok corral, shoot and questions later backwards thinking in this area.
Posted by: Marisol Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 02:18 PM
I am glad he was able to protect himself and I'm glad he didn't kill these unruly boys who act as if they didn't have anything better to do. However, if it had been the police, they probably would have shot to kill. Delivery driver, being of african descent, i would have probably done the same thing as sometimes I'm skeptical when walking my street for exercise [alone]when there are a group of guys in or around. Race not being the issue for me, Im just happy that no one was seriously hurt. I pray for you as u try to do your job safely. I also pray for all youth in and around the world.
Posted by: I am proud of pizza guy Location: gvegas on Jun 26, 2008 at 01:18 PM
Brooke-Few questions for you. What makes DJ's crime different from any other criminal act?? What makes him immune to normal laws? That he is a teenager? He's not a teenager. He's a JUVENILE DELINQUENT. Send him to the detention center when he gets well. Every other teenager that commits a mindless crime like this goes there. Why is DJ different? Do you know him? Maybe that's why you are spouting off supporting criminals. And if it was my brother, mother or anyone elso I know that attempted to rob a pizza guy, I would say the same thing--you commit the crime, you do the time. Finally, if DJ had gotten away with this "harmless" robbery and assault of a pizza guy, do you actually think that he would have stopped with just robbing pizza delivery people? Come on now. Get a grip and join us here in reality. Now, if the pizza guy didn't have a permit, fine. Fine him. Don't condemn him for SAVING HIS OWN LIFE!!! To Chanello's, glad your pizza guy prevailed. He rocks!!!
Posted by: GreenvilleResident Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 11:57 AM
I'm sorry, but after reading a lot of your comments, I have to agree with ConcernedCitizen. He or she is right. What those children did was wrong! Yes, the pizza delivery guy did what he had to do to defend himself. But those children should be punished. That boy that the man shot shouldn't have tried to ROB a pizza delivery man! That was stupid beyond words! I think they should make schools around here YEAR round like they do in some states! If those children had been going to school all year round, they wouldn't have been outside that late at night! Their parents should be punished too! They LET their kids run around at all hours of the night UNSUPERVISED! Talk about stupidity! My child goes to school year round. He LOVES it. I'm sure I won't ever have to hear about my child in my local papers!

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Posted by: DEE Location: GREENVILLE on Jun 26, 2008 at 10:50 AM
My little sister knows the boys who did this. And this has to be the dumbest bunch of kids...How much money could they possibly get to split between them by robbing a poor pizza delivery guy!! Let this poor man do his job in peace, please?!! Good for the pizza delivery guy...If I saw a group of big boys coming after me, I'd be in big trouble if I didn't have a weapon - and I don't!! He did what he had to do and the boys are getting what they deserve. My sister told me that only 2 of Dean's friends came back to help him and the rest just left him there - shot! Thats what happens when you hang out with people who are always scheming up dumb ideas. They get YOU in trouble and THEY take care of "them." Get it together, young people! This is gonna cost you in ways you don't even know yet.
Posted by: Sandman Location: Nag's Head on Jun 26, 2008 at 10:27 AM
The pizza guy felt as thought his life was endanger.Therefore, he had the right to shoot.If I delivered pizza, I would carry a bazooka if I could! People are mean today and you have to defend yourself. The police cannnot be everywhere.
Posted by: Jimmy Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Way to go pizza man! I'd have done the same thing.
Posted by: ReadThisObama on Jun 26, 2008 at 04:33 AM
Myth: Assault weapons are a serious problem in the U.S. Fact: In 1994, before the Federal "assault weapons ban", you were eleven (11) times more likely to be beaten to death than to be killed by an “assault weapon”.33 In the first year since the ban was lifted, murders declined 3.6%, and violent crime 1.7%.
Posted by: ObamaWantsYourGuns Location: Greenville on Jun 26, 2008 at 01:58 AM
Obama is anti gun. You are fooling yourself if you believe otherwise. He is one of the strongest anti gun voters in Congress along with Nancy Pelosi.

They would take all your guns if they could. Funny how they are guarded by gunned men with automatic weapons. I guess they both feel they are more important than you!
Posted by: Fan of Wolfgang Location: NC on Jun 26, 2008 at 01:54 AM
I agree with Wolfgang 100%

It's time to take the power back.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 11:38 PM
http://conspiracyx0.tripod.com/weapons3/mini-14.gif Look at the above picture .. the top is a pretty much stock ruger mini 14 with a 20 round magazine and the bottom 2 because of the folding stock, pistol grip, folding stock and detachable magazine would be illegal under the ban simply because of its appearance which don’t make the gun anymore dangerous. Also the assault weapons ban deals stickly with semi-automatic weapons and has nothing to do with automatic weapons, as there was already a law for that from back in the 1938 called the National Firearms Act which many people fail to realize.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Look up the ban here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_assault_weapons_ban You will see that everything that it banned were strickly cosmetic. I could go to walmart and buy a Ruger mini 14 which comes with a magazine that holds 5 rounds. If I change the stock to one with a pistol grip and folding stock and buy a magazine that holds 20 rounds and it becomes an illegal weapon under the expired ban simply because of cosmetics. The changes do nothing to affect the accuracy of the gun or make it more dangerous then it was when it was bought from the store.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 11:24 PM
If Obama supports the assault weapons ban then he is anti-gun. All the assault weapons ban did was make certain guns illegal if it had more then 3 features that were deemed dangerous when they are actually cosmetic. This is how gun bans start by making certain weapons appear to be more dangerous then they really are then they go on to ban other weapons so that eventually no guns are legal and only criminals have them leaving law abiding citizens with nothing to defend themselves. Giving the goverment a monopoly on guns. We would still be part of England if not for private gun ownership. Which is why the founding fathers made the 2nd ammendment
Posted by: hope Location: NC on Jun 25, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Gary, please do not lump all democrats with Brooke. Thank you.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 09:37 PM
If you would have read my post i did mention what they did to him is wrong and that wanna be thug thing was just ignoraant so im not going to comment on that im done argueing with you people i have better things to do.
Posted by: Just saying Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 09:22 PM
I may be a little late with this post...but Obama is not antigun ownership. This information is from his website www.barackobama.com. "...Obama favors commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. He supports closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. He also supports making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets." These are respectable and appropriate positions in my opinion. Sorry, just didn't feel Obama needed stomped on because of some previous posts.
Posted by: Wolfgang Location: Chocowinity on Jun 25, 2008 at 08:04 PM
I guess Elvis Deans Junior won't be robbing or beating on anybody soon. Well at least untill he gets out if the hospital. 4 against 1 Go Pizza Delivery Man. I think you should all carry guns as long as you have the proper legal permits.I really doubt you would have gotten robbed if they knew you had a gun!!! I just feel bad you did not kill all 4 of these predators. We have to take our Towns and Streets back from these low life criminals. Why can't they get a job like everybody else and stop robbing hard working citizens
Posted by: Patrick Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:53 PM
These kids are criminals and will probably spend the rest of their lives in and out of prison. Way to go pizza man. I wish he shot all of them.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:48 PM
If he had of not had the gun the situation might have ended differently with him having more serious injuries. He could have beaten senseless, sustained brain or even killed. He did what he had to do to stop them from being assaulted and I am pretty sure he did not want to shot but did so only after seeing that he had no other options. This is the thing that antigun people don’t realize they think that gun owners are gun crazy and will shoot at the slightest provocation which is not true.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:47 PM
Look at this article in the daily reflector. http://www.reflector.com/local/content/news/stories/2008/06/25/JuvenilesArrested.html On june 16(same night that pizza man shot DJ), a 14 and 15 year old robbed a 21 year old ecu student, later that night a group of juveniles chased a 21 year old and his friend hitting one of the 2 in the head. All these events involved juveniles (those under the age of 18) Since DJ got shot things seem to have quieted down as in my opinion it was a wake up call to the juveniles in Greenville.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:41 PM
Look at this article in the daily reflector. http://www.reflector.com/local/content/news/stories/2008/06/25/JuvenilesArrested.html On june 16(same night that pizza man shot DJ), a 14 and 15 year old robbed a 21 year old ecu student, later that night a group of juveniles chased a 21 year old and his friend hitting one of the 2 in the head. All these events involved juveniles (those under the age of 18) Since DJ got shot things seem to have quieted down as in my opinion it was a wake up call to the juveniles in Greenville.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:37 PM
what should the Pizza guy have done differently ? Should he have simply lay there and took the beating and possibly lost his life in the process. He tried to leave and was blocked so they gave him no choice.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:32 PM
Its sad that people will get upset over a child getting shot but wont acknowledge what the child did to get shot,they were breaking the law. First thing out of there mouth is he made a bad choice and didn’t deserve to get shot, he wasnt going to hurt anybody. The pizza guy was simply lucky that he did not receive any bad injuries. You cant wait to see what the persons that are attacking you are gonna do. You cant wait to see if they might be simply punch and kick you a few times then leave you alone, if you wait too long you wont be able to defend yourself anymore. By your logic simply because the pizza guy didnt have any bad injuries he should have waited until he had a concussion or broken ribs. Which is ludicrous to wait and see what happens If the pizza guy had not had the gun then you can cool believe that the situation would have ended differently. Not one person complaining about what the pizza guy did has acknowledged that what the kids did was wrong. It was a mistake they say.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:19 PM
So what you are saying is that the pizza guy should have waited until he had sustained worse injuries before pulling out the gun? If he had of waited until he had a concussion or broken bones then you would be okay with him shooting? Get over it … the kids attacked a man that was minding his own business and attempting to earn a living and one of them got hurt because of a bad decision. Why are you not mentioning or complaining about how wrong what the kids did was? The reason why is that you probably have a wanna be thug child and are upset that this potentially could happen to them.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 05:50 PM
I am considering you opinions I do agree that DJ should be punished for what he did just not shot. end of story.
Posted by: Sally Location: Wasington on Jun 25, 2008 at 05:47 PM
Hey Brooke of Greenville you are a fine one to talk about Judging!! How do you know the gun was not registered and you dont know the people making the comments!! so I guess when you have 3 people beating you until you cant see or hear anymore you will change your tune!! Come to my house ( shot 1st ask ?'s later!!!
Posted by: Rosebud Location: Lagrange on Jun 25, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Rick....I have been keeping up with the Obama persons remarks. This person must be some sort of head doctor, it's a test. No one with any brain at all can come up with this reasoning. No one needs to acknowledge any of Obama persons remarks as I think it's a test.
Posted by: melvin Location: greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 04:43 PM
QUIT changing things around three on one i am glad pizza guy survived assualt and just maybe these three criminals will be looking for a better career
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 25, 2008 at 04:33 PM
Brooke. Your argument "What would you do if your child shot someone?" is completely dumb and immature. My child wouldn't shoot someone. They were raised right and regardless of that, they have a good head on their shoulders. I by no means want DJ to die, I pray that he does live. But don't EXCUSE their actions. What they did was completely wrong. You can't excuse their actions, they are completely inexcuseable. I understand he is your friend, for all you know, I know him too. But regardless of how well we know someone, wrong is wrong. Planning to rob a hardworking individual instead of getting a job is insane. If you want us to consider your position, consider ours.
Posted by: Chris Location: Edenton on Jun 25, 2008 at 04:14 PM
For Obama and everyone else defending these kids GET OVER IT!!! No matter how you look at it they aren't so innocent!! THREE of them jumped ONE man, he was threatened and was trying to protect himself. I don't believe he was shooting to try and kill anyone, just to scare the heck out of them so they would leave him alone. What would you do if THREE people were trying to beat the crap out of you??? Maybe you wouldn't shoot anyone, but I'm sure you would try to defend yourself in one way or the other. Maybe this has taught them a lesson, maybe they will never try to ROB or beat the crap out of anyone again!!
Posted by: Gvill man Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 04:12 PM
Wow, thats the second ammendment at its best, shoot someone without breaking a law, go America!
Posted by: Gary Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Brooke, You must be a democrat! who else would have "compassion" on three people beating the crap out of them and do nothing.
Posted by: Jesse Location: Greenville, NC on Jun 25, 2008 at 01:47 PM
This mentality that everyone has gotten in about nothing ever being their fault is very stupid. They tried to rob someone and got shot..end of story. Would they have been ok that night if they hadn't robbed that pizza guy? Yes they would have. Every action has a consequence and we all need to stop passing the blame to someone/something else. Being an adult is about taking responsibility for your actions. These are things that everyone should have learned from a very early age. Fundamental lessons in life are not being taught anymore.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Get a Grip...I pray that you are faced with a situation possibly with one of your children and you will want people to have compassion for you...and i hope that you get none...i hope people are as coldhearted to you as you are and you will see how it feels...have a nice day.
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM
There you go again twisting words, Obama. He was being beaten by THREE people and he responded. You keep saying we think it's right to shoot people for just looking dangerous or cutting someone off in traffic. I know I didn't say that so don't stereotype me. This situation was completely different from a bully coming up to you at school. If someone comes into your house you need to turn on a light and see who it is. See if they're armed and assess the threat you feel from them. The pizza guy realized he was set up, like numerous other pizza guys have been, for a robbery. It was taken to another level when THREE young men started beating him and he acted to preserve his safety. If you're not at home and someone comes at you in a threatening manner and you can run you need to. It's hard to run when your knocked to the ground and then THREE people start beating you so you have to defend yourself any way you know how. Stop giving examples in which there is no threat like he had.
Posted by: Obama For President Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM
No Rick you are misreading. I will agree that if someone is shooting at you; shoot back. Can a policeman draw his weapon and shoot an unarmed robber? Half the posts here talk about shooting someone coming into their house. It is the same attitude that you and the majority of the people here have. Shoot them all and let God sort them out. If you and I cross paths in the street, and you threaten me and take a swing, I guess it is alright to blow your brains out. I guess if I am going into the gas station and three guys get out of the car behind me and look like a threat coming towards me, I can blow them away too! I guess small kids are justified in shooting bullies also. No I am not the one that is lost here. In your eyes, the pizza could have shot and killed all three unarmed kids and there would be nothing wrong with that. You claim that I am the one lost. Wake up people!!!
Posted by: swinger Location: elizabeth city on Jun 25, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Right on, pizza guy! the chief of police should have bought you an extra box of bullets before sending you home. Good job! The courts are too soft on criminals any way.
Posted by: Democrat Location: Washington,NC on Jun 25, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Obama for President...you're kidding,right...I find it hard to believe your comments could be serious....try putting yourself in this poor pizza guy's position...just trying to make a living & some ignorant robbers show up trying to take what little he has....you would gladly give them everything & shout hallelujah,right? Unbelievable how such ignorant attitudes abound in this modern society....In this day & time and especially in Greenville,one is required to protect oneself because no one else will....kudos to pizza guy!!
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Obama for Pres, you've lost this argument and yet you continue. Knowing three people are beating you, one person, and not knowing how far they're going to take it is significant. Hearing someone in your house and blindly shooting them without verifying who they are is negligent. These are two very different situations. You have BLIND action taken by the resident before seeing who it was and you have action taken by the pizza guy when he knew he was being set-up, beaten, and no telling what else. Please, give us a logical argument. You can allow yourself and your family to be beaten or whatever if this happens to you but don't expect all of the other citizens who are tired of being victimized to sit back and do nothing. It's OK to sit there and let yourself be beaten or shot to make a point, if that's what you believe. Everyone isn't down with that, though. As I said earlier, some robbery victims have been shot in Greenville, even after doing what they were told to do.
Posted by: Brad Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 09:12 AM
Typical liberal response from an obama person. You will not accept the fact that everyone should be responsible for their actions and have to pay the price for those actions. This attitude is wrong, sick,and pathetic. You think we should just lie down and endure attacks from thugs. You also take the same attitude towards international issues(terrorism, etc..). I have news for you, some of us want to live and enjoy our lives here, and if it takes drastic measures to stop someone from keeping me from living my life safely, well so be it. If that's backwoods, then that's me. At least I'll be living my life as I choose while your type will be walking the liberal trail like sheep going to be slaughtered. Vote American, not obama.
Posted by: Rosebud Location: Lagrange on Jun 25, 2008 at 08:59 AM
Obama person.....he was attacked! How do you associate that with being afrid? I'm sorry but I don't think anyone can follow your way of thinking. The reason crimes are running up is because the courts are turning them loose, yes the laws need to change, law abiding citizens have been put in the position to defend themselves.
Posted by: Obama For President Location: Greenville on Jun 25, 2008 at 08:01 AM
Here is a fine example of my point. http://www.witntv.com/home/headlines/20733174.html Posted right here on this website today. Why did they charge this guy with manslaughter and not charge the pizza man? the man thought someone was breaking into his house, pulled his gun and started shooting. He killed his wife who had forgot her keys. The pizza man was not beaten to death. In fact, they took him to the hospitial and he was realeased. It don't even tell us how minor the injuries are. All I am saying is that the cowboy, backwoods, OK Coral, attitude of justice is absurd and the laws shouls change to make people like the pizza man accountable for excessive force.If all it takes to be afraid for one's life to shoot somebody,I should get a gun and shoot the Greenville drivers that follow to close,pull out in front of me, or run red lights.If the people around here can't see the error in the pizza man's judgment;your are more backwards than I thought. Crawl out from underneath your rock.
Posted by: Get a grip Location: Washington,NC on Jun 24, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Poor Brooke...are you living in fantasyland or somewhere like that? This is reality & some people do not like to work & get their own things so they steal from other hardworking people....Hopefully these "boys" have learned their lesson,albeit a hard one....But if the situation were identical to Pizza Man's, I would also do the same thing he did....he didn't ask to be put in the situation of defending himself & he should never never feel guilty for what he did...
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 09:21 PM
Everyone who doesn’t like guns needs to keep this in mind that even if you don’t own a gun you still benefit from that fact that others do. The fact that some of us own guns helps everyone out as criminals are scared since they have to guess who owns a gun and who doesn’t. So even you anti-gunners reap the benefits of living in an area without the restrictive laws of California or DC. If you are that antigun then post a sign in your yard letting the world know that guns are bad and that your house is a gun free house.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 09:20 PM
While many may disagree with and choose not to defend themselves in a similar situation don’t try to belittle others that choose to not live their lives as sheep. Several people here have posted that it was vigilantism … it was not it was self defense. I wish I could remember knew where I saw the statistic that the majority of the time police show up after a crime is committed ? The police are around to keep things from getting out of hand. This means that they show up in many cases to interview the victim (if they are still alive ) or after the fact to draw a chalk outline. So many people don’t realize that in a perfect world we would not need guns, but the world we live it you have to have one. I for one am not going to expect a police officer to show up and do something that I am not willing to do for myself.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 08:46 PM
Brooke........Maybe when you get older you will realize that the pizza guy did no wrong. But then again when you get older you might be one of those diehards who would allow yourself to be hurt rather then protecting yourself. If you were walking down the street and your boyfriend and 6 or 7 guys approached and made it known they wanted your boyfriends money and that they wanted to have there way with you … you would probably get mad at your boyfriend for pulling a gun out to protect you. Your excuse would be … that they are unarmed and making a bad choice don’t shoot them. There comes a time when people who make bad choices must pay the piper.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 08:17 PM
Obama for President You misunderstand people are not applauding the shooting of an unarmed man, people are applauding the fact that finally one of the robbers got hurt instead of the victim. They are applauding because hopefully this will send a message to other would be robbers. The pizza man was outnumbered and he pulled out his equalizer. Last but not least there are other parts of the world where unarmed people are killed everyday. Look up ethnic cleansing. Look up Rhawanda… many unarmed people were killed in that country all over there ethnicity. You say an unarmed man was shot .. I beg to differ he had both his arms and 2 legs that if I understand correctly he was using on the pizza guy along with 2 other persons. I guess you have not heard of anyone getting beaten to death. Check out this story on abc website about a man beaten to death this past weekend 6/22 and they have no clue who did it. http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6221550
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 08:15 PM
Obama for president … you like many others in todays world cannot agree to disagree. It’s a personal choice to have a gun to defend ones self. Which most gun owners will respect those that don’t like guns but the gun hatters don’t give gun owners the same respect back. Its sad that so many people in todays world when they are losing the discussion and cant make any legitimate and intelligent comments they will make asinine comparisons to upset the person they have a disagreement with. Like your comment that everyone who is applauding the pizza guy would applaud the slaughter of gay citizens and it is ludicrous that anyone would even lump everyone together like that. I for one could care less about someone’s sexual orientation as long as they respect me, I will respect there choice. All long as they are law abiding and productive member of society I could care less what they do behind closed doors.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 07:59 PM
TLH … you say that one of the youth was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Well my dad taught me when I was a teenager to be careful of the company that I keep as there is a thing called guilt by association. When I was 19 I was hanging out with a friend and some of his other friends who I did not know. Well I found out that they were following people home then breaking into there cars the sound systems. Well after I found out what they were up to I left and did not associate with that friend anymore. The boy could have walked away or helped the pizza guy out. Even if he did not participate he should have helped the pizza guy out and stated that it was wrong. If he had of done this I bet he would not be in the same boat with everyone else and being charged with robbery and assault. So don’t give me that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Posted by: Brooke to MTRL Location: Greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 06:23 PM
to MTRL Could you please stop making a joke of this,I do not see how this is in anyway funny. Also I would hope your opinions would be a little different and you would have more compassion if one of your children did something like this,no one is perfect and those boys made a huge mistake that they will have to live with for the rest of their lives but those boys deserve a second chance for the simple fact that they are children and I still say the pizza guy was wrong and should be punished. I just pray that DJ makes it through this.
Posted by: Rosebud Location: Lagrange on Jun 24, 2008 at 03:48 PM
To Obama person.....how did the pizza man know they weren't armed. You need to take your "steamroller" and patrol the streets at night!
Posted by: Eric Location: pittsburgh on Jun 24, 2008 at 03:25 PM
The Pizza Delivery driver did no wrong for defending himself from a group of criminals who attacked him. They run the risk of armed response when they started to beat the guy for his money and more people should learn self-defense. Obama is Anti-Gun, but would never come out to say that during his election. His voting record and history proves my point. He does not approve of you protecting your family from a criminal and would rather throw you in jail instead.
Posted by: Dell Location: kinston on Jun 24, 2008 at 02:51 PM
To Brooke If DJ had been in church( like the choir boy he is) instead of trying to beat up and rob the pizza guy, He would not be in the Hosptial fighting for his life., It is his own fault and he should be ashamed to put his mother and brother through that. as far as fighting back with your hands, 3 against 1, I would be shooting, kicking and whatever else I could do to defend myself,... I really hope this kid makes it and gives the thanks to GOD for saving his life and giving him a second chance. He also need to thanks the pizza guy for changing his life, He needs to pick his friends better. This is not a black or white issue, There are just as many Thug whites as blacks. The only difference is the skin color.
Posted by: Obama For President Location: Greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Bob, why do you call me a neo-con? I am anything but. I too am well traveled. I come from 2 generations of military. I have lived in other countries and several different states. I do not think nor intend to paint everyone the same. It is true that everywehere you go there are people that have different beliefs. It sounds to me that you are the one defending the repubs. Only in this part of the world can a man shoot an unarmed man and get away with it. I may have been a little over the top with the G/L statement, but I think that you know exactly what I mean. There are too many years of conservatism and insalubrious sentiment forced down our throats by the right. It IS time for a change! Steve, who am I to decide whether or not a person has the right to breath air.We are not talking about a serial killer/torture freak here.We are talking about a pizza guy that shot an UNARMED kid.It doesn't seem that the pizza guy was hurt too bad.Maybe I should shoot anyone that looks like a threat
Posted by: hope Location: NC on Jun 24, 2008 at 02:16 PM
Bob, You may be right on target.
Posted by: steve Location: moyock on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:26 AM
This is for Obama for President. Thank you for responding to my posting. I do believe that you are a person of high conviction and principals and I do admire that. We can agree to disagree on the subject of the right to use firearms to defend ourselves. I wish we lived in a world without crime, but I believe that you and I both know that this will never happen. As far as being crushed by the Obama steam roller I would like to say that if he is elected President, no one will be able to afford the fuel to operate it! I hold a degree in Criminal Justice and worked with criminals whom you defend, for ten years. I knew of an inmate in the facility that I worked in whom was convicted sexual assault and murder. Before murdering the victim, the inmate took pictures of torturing the victim and mailed copies to the victim's husband and parents. In your opinion, does this person have the right to continue breathing air? I just hope you are never in a position to have to defend yourself
Posted by: Brian Location: Raleigh on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:19 AM
"These same people applauding the pizza guy would be the same ones that would applaud the slaughter of Gay & Lesbian citizens." That's a heck of a leap there, "Obama for President". Of course, painting anyone who doesn't agree with them as a bigot seems de rigeur for the Obama camp.
Posted by: Bob Location: Winterville on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Sorry "Obama for President"- I believe that typecasting folks based on region is ridiculous. I have traveled all over, folks are folks and every area is well represented by ALL types. To assume otherwise is bigotry. I also don't buy that backers of self-defense (or McCain/repubs- which you imply), would "applaud the slaughter of gays". That is a crazy/tiny fraction that is not repubs either. You are FAR too over the top w/ overgeneralizations and simply wrong on many accounts. Practice what you preach as you sound like a hypocrite at times. I still think that you might be a neo-con winding up folks here for a negative Obama effect. If you are an Obama supporter, you are doing his side no favor, believe me. Whatever the case, have a good day.
Posted by: mark Location: currituck county on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:06 AM
This response is to Jerry's posting. I respect your right to believe however you please, this is America. However, if you take the firearms away from the law abiding citizens, the criminals will still have them. You would just be taking away the right for the non criminals to defend themselves. Look at fully automatic weapons. They are illegal unless you possess a certain license. Many criminals still own and use them!
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Obama for President, I bet you'd be the first person to scream out, "DON'T STEREOTYPE ME!!!" And yet you have stereotyped all of the citizens of Greenville who are simply fed up with criminals robbing people. Look at the situation, we've been overrun with robberies over the past several months to a year and people are fed up. I seriously doubt all of the people who were glad to see some street justice in this situation, based on frustration from past occurrances, would be happy to see a Gay & Lesbian slaughter. I think a supporter of Obama should be more understanding and objective and leave the closeminded thinking to those you hate so much.
Posted by: Ellen Location: Platz on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Only bad people should be allowed to have guns. This is what is wrong with our society today - we allow good people to have guns. It's terrible. End the oppression of freedom. I hate the individual. Responsibility is passé. There should be no right and wrong. Obama '08.
Posted by: Rosebud Location: Lagrange on Jun 24, 2008 at 10:28 AM
What happened to this man has nothing to do with being a republician or democrat, muslium, black, white or whatever. The man was trying to earn a living by delivering pizzas. He is the victum, he was defending himself. People are tired of being in fear, you are going to hear more of this type of thing happening because people are FED UP!
Posted by: hope Location: NC on Jun 24, 2008 at 09:28 AM
To TLH, That boy CHOSE to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I feel bad for the parents, they sound like good people. Hopefully, this kid learned his lesson. Whether he becomes a full fledged "thug" is yet to be seen though. Pizza man is the victim. Right is right & wrong is wrong. If the roles were reversed your view from that vantage point might look a little different. People are tired of this sort of thing.
Posted by: Obama For President Location: Greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 07:55 AM
Bob, I understand what you are saying. I just think that there is way too may people here with the appetite for blood. If someone pulls a gun on you, you should have the right to defend yourself with a gun. In this case, people are applauding a pizza guy for shooting an unarmed man. Yes, most of the people in this area are backwards. It is time that we have a truly democratic president. These same people applauding the pizza guy would be the same ones that would applaud the slaughter of Gay & Lesbian citizens. All of the Obama supporters should stick together and stand up against these people filled with hate and vinegar. It is time for a change.
Posted by: TLH Location: Greenville on Jun 24, 2008 at 02:26 AM
I cannot speak for all of these young men, but I do know the family of one of the boys and I know that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He comes from a wonderful, loving and nurturing family. His father is NOT in prison and everyone in his family work very hard to have the things they have. They give back to the community in many ways. Unfortunately for him, he is guilty by association. We all are too quick to judge others. You don't know those kids' situations or backgrounds and you shouldn't pretend to know them. Judge not lest you be judged. Yes, they made a huge mistake, and they'll be punished according to the law. These kids are not "thugs" just because of this one mistake. I don't believe the delivery man was necessarily wrong in his actions. The boys did the right thing by driving to the hospital and finding a police officer. Why do we pour so much energy in mouthing off about how bad these kids are instead of focuing on the good work being done in our community?
Posted by: To Obama for President on Jun 24, 2008 at 12:57 AM
You may be somewhat nescient about the "Change" you speak of. I hope you are happy once Obama is elected.
Even though Obama Claims to be a Christian he made this statement in his book.

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the Political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

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Posted by: Obama Exposed on Jun 24, 2008 at 12:48 AM
That is correct, once Obama is elected he will show is support for the criminals and his plans for the future of America.
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Well said, Bob. Let's just be objective about this people. If you want to look it up, it was the Zip Mart near Sam's where the criminals, all young men, laughed after one of them shot the clerk in his head. You can't take a chance these days or you'll end up dead or seriously injured. I think Barack would understand. I don't think he would sit back and allow this to happen to himself, either.
Posted by: Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:09 PM
hey WITN .. how about doing a followup story about the kid in the hospital. See if the family will let you take pictures and make an anti-crime video. Talk to the family and see if they will allow you to do it. This could be used to deter other youth from crime.
Posted by: Bob Location: Winterville on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I'm for Obama too but you are out to lunch on this! I kinda believe that you are winding us all up anyway; your responses seem too stereotyped. You can't be this simplistic with your over generalized dichotomies, can you? Either side on the Presidential race using this situation as political fodder is stretching. Pizza guy came under attack and defended himself. "Mace" (HA! try pepper spray in 21st century!), please. Good way to get more hurt using "mace". I hope all involved are OK, but if you attack this person without provocation & malintent,.38 p = result. There is only a split second to decide and 3 or 4 vs. 1 w/ all the violence in society today = danger for all. I hate that very poor youthful decision can be deadly, but pizza guy did'nt start this one.
Posted by: mtrl Location: chowan on Jun 23, 2008 at 09:29 PM
it does not matter that the kids did not have a gun. the pizza man did what a reasonable person would have done in that situation. same standards that are on put on Law Enforcement. has anyone heard what toppings were on the pizza.
Posted by: Rick Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 09:26 PM
I would love to see you use mace against several attackers as they kicked and punched you. It wouldn't work out to good for you. It is a sad state of affairs when people honestly believe that this man shouldn't have defended himself with a firearm. There have been a couple of robbery cases in this area over the past few months when the victim did everything the suspect(s) asked and then one of the suspects shot them anyway. On one occasion, the group of suspects was seen laughing on the surveillance camera of the store after one of them shot a clerk in the head. Even after he did everything they said to do. In a situation like this you can't call time out and check everyone's hands to see if they're armed with anything. You can't sit there and let them beat you and hope they don't take it to another level. You protect yourself if you have the means. I hope the young man who was shot doesn't die and I hope he turns his life around when he recovers.
Posted by: Rosebud Location: Lagrange on Jun 23, 2008 at 09:03 PM
I live so far back in the 'woods' the stop sign says wow. As far as a steamroller running over me, I hope not. This man defended his life, how can anyone with a brain in their head question what he did?
Posted by: Concerned Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 09:01 PM
If you own a gun please take the time to goto the range at least 2 or 3 times a year.Brooke does have a point that one should know how to hit what one is aiming at. Owning a gun is a responsibility that too many people take lightly. Even if you don’t own a gun teach your children that guns are not toys as you never know when and where they might come in contact with one. A local private club has Defensive pistol matches that are open to the public on the 4th Saturday of each month. I find it more instructional then a typical trip to the range because its timed and you can see how you would do in a self-defense situation. http://www.pittcountywildlifeclub.org/ Go to the calendar to see when each months matches are.
Posted by: to brooke Location: greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 08:36 PM
you do realize its possible to be beaten to death? People have died from internal injuries from beatings that didn't involve any "weapons". Do you really believe he didn't have a right to defend himself against a group of boys- I'm sure he didn't check id for their ages. BTW, what those parents did to that little boy was horrific. I hope they get the worst possible sentence.
Posted by: Concerned Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 08:27 PM
I am all for Obama for president but if he is anti-gun then that will be the reason why he wont get my vote because most criminals are not supposed to have a gun, but does that stop them from getting them … no. Criminals fear armed citizens. In todays day and age multiple people are involved in most breakins or home invasions. If someone breaks into my house its gonna take the police a minimum of 15 minutes to arrive. During that time period if I have a gun I can protect my wife and 2 kids until the police arrive from multiple people from a distance.
Posted by: Concerned Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 08:24 PM
The pizza guy was defending himself so he should not be locked up. Now the kids they all should be locked up for attempted murder… that you did get right. Now if DJ dies then guess what his accomplices will be charged with murder. Mace doesn’t do a thing when you have several people attacking you. You will only end up getting maybe one or 2. And you are mistaken the comments on this site are of those who are sick and tired of the youth /young males committing armed robbery and breaking into peoples homes. Using a gun is a equalizer that keeps you safe from harm. I personally would rather be able to stay at the end of my hallway(20 ft) verses the 10 ft or less that I would have to be to use mace.
Posted by: Concerned Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 08:11 PM
For those complaining about Elvis getting shot or that despise guns take a look at the following site and maybe if you are of an open mind that can see reason you will change your mind. This site explains why people should not be so against guns and different reasons why it should be choice. Very moving site in my opinion and will make you think. http://www.a-human-right.com/ If you want to see other articles around the country about guns used in self-defense look here. http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/blogger.html
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 08:04 PM
To obvious yes I would fight back but with my hands I wouldn't go and start shooting a gun off in any direction possibly killing someone,maybe someone who wasn't even invovled,and i wouldn't go and start shooting off a gun at kids who obviously weren't armed or they would have pulled there weapons out and fired back so no I would not do that. Its amazing to me that you people can get up here and defend a pizza guy who shot at some kids prolly just trying to take a pizza but then defend the parents of the kid who was tied to a tree and died,you people are amazing those are the people who deserve to suffer not a teenage boy trying to take some pizza. Get well soon DJ!!!!
Posted by: Concerned Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 07:51 PM
Brooke …. You ask what if my brother, father or son was shot while attempting to rob someone and I would say that they got what they deserved. Now that does not negate the fact that I would not want to see my brother, son or father fighting for there life but you try to rob someone and you are taking a chance that the person might have a gun. People work hard and it isn’t right that todays kids are so spoiled by there parents that when they get old enough to get a job they chose to steal from other people instead of getting a job. I have compassion feel sorry that DJ is suffering right now fighting for his life but all this would not be happening if he was not he was an active participant. I can only hope that god kept him alive for a reason and that hopefully that reason is that he will be a positive role model after all this.
Posted by: Concerned Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 07:47 PM
8 shots .. no that is not excessive if you know anything about guns and self defense. When defending one self-using a gun (even the police can attest to this) you are supposed to keep shooting until the threat is no longer a threat. This means that either until they fall or until they are running away. There have been documented cases were criminals on drugs or simply adrenaline still managed to keep fighting after being shot several times. Keep in mind that the person shooting in many cases is so scared that all they remember is pulling the gun out and have no recollection of how many shots they fired. In many cases,even police offiers have emptied the gun but only remember pulling the trigger a couple of times. Pick up an issue of a magazine called Combat Handguns. Read the section called “It happened to me” each month their are stories about self-defense. Read the stories and some of the other articles then come back and say that 8 shots was excesive.
Posted by: Concerned Resident Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 07:40 PM
TO Concern …..I think he deserves what he got. He’s lucky to be alive and if he survives hopefully he is now ready to lead an honest living and become a productive member of society after he deals with the repercussions of his actions . I am sorry that he is potentially suffering and hopefully he doesn’t die. I feel that he would make a good advocate against crime by going to high schools and middle schools and showing his scars from where he attempted to rob someone and this might deter other teenagers from committing crime.
Posted by: dat Location: location on Jun 23, 2008 at 06:11 PM
listen, i bet those kids dont play that same joke again! havent seen many assaults and robberies on the news for greenville lately. im sorry for the parents, and sorry these kids were horribly dumb and about got killed as punishment. i hate it, but i think i would do the same if i was jumped and had a gun!
Posted by: Big One Location: couple of miles south on Jun 23, 2008 at 05:58 PM
I can't believe what I'm reading here. Are there seriously people in this area who are criminalizing someone who refuses to be a victim? I think the media should show pictures of the CRIMINAL the WORKING MAN saved himself from in the hospital bed. I think they should hang pictures of the CRIMINAL in the schools. I think the WORKING MAN deserves the biggest HERO medal the city can award. You are responsible for your safety citizens. Take charge and protect yourself from these ANIMALS. Take the concealed carry course at Pitt. Educate yourself on the laws regarding self preservation, practice what you learn and put these ANIMALS in their place if need be.

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Posted by: Rosebud Location: Lagrange on Jun 23, 2008 at 03:19 PM
First of all, me and a lot of other backwoods people have no intention of being run over by anyones steamroller. Second, I guess it's okay for a bunch of little thug rats to beat a person trying to make a living delivering pizzas. Before people have to bow down to that there will be an all out war. People are sick and tired of the increased crime and danger in this country. I for one have many guns and will use it if the occasion calls for it. I am an American citizen and proud of it.

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Posted by: hope Location: NC on Jun 23, 2008 at 03:12 PM
To Obama for Prez, Are you for real? You blamed the republican party for this incident (I make reference to your 09:29 am posting this date). It is a constitutional right to bear arms & people have the right to defend themselves. The pizza guy was under attack! He defended himself, case closed. Obama will have many things to deal with IF elected. Changing the constitution may not be his first priority. I was liking Obama until I read your post. Now I'm not sure anymore.
Posted by: Nik Location: Eastern NC on Jun 23, 2008 at 03:01 PM
It wouldnt take me no time to grab my gun and shoot. Its always loaded. We were taught that an unloaded gun will get you killed. If I were to pull my gun out, it would be to defend myself against an attacker and I will shoot to kill. No need for the attacker or whatever to be sent to prison then I end up having to support him/her. If Obama is elected president, this country is going straight to hell. God fearing, honest, hard working Americans will have no rights. I dont understand why people would support someone who will not even salute our flag. Its you people who think that the pizza guy was wrong in protecting and defending himself. The shoe really needs to be on the other foot. Then we could see how quick you are to condemn the pizza guy for his brave actions.
Posted by: Lou Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 02:37 PM
I think it's getting to where everyone carries a gun.The Pizza delivery guy had every right to protect himself.he didn't ask to be robbed or beat.Criminals need to take note.Take it from someone who has family that was robbed at gunpoint.How many times has the pizza guy been robbed or threatened.You get tired of beeing the victim.For those of you who are defending the criminals maybe you need to be a victim.If you have friends or relatives that are the criminals maybe you should disown them.
Posted by: Obama for President Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 02:29 PM
I tell you what Steve, instead of moving I and the millions of our Democratic friends are going to do something for you! We are going to bring you out of the woods and into the open so everyone can live in peace. We are going to bring our values to your front door. It is time for this change to occur. You Steve, just like the rest of the backwoods people in these parts, will be in for a new era and you might as well jump on the bus or get squashed by the Obama steam roller. As far as your scenario goes, if you had time to get your gun and load it as the intruder was coming in, you had enough time to pick up the mace. This is a prime example of how people in this area are locked in the dark ages and would rather shoot first and ask questions later.
Posted by: marie Location: location on Jun 23, 2008 at 01:34 PM
to Concerned & Oboma for pres: Where you stand depends on where you sit. If the tables were turned and you were the victim of a beating, laying helplessly on the ground, getting kicked in the face by several people, what would you do?
Posted by: Jerry Location: Washington on Jun 23, 2008 at 01:26 PM
Very nice OFP! There are way too many guns out there and something needs to be done to get the guns out of private hands. The pizza guy is a murderer. Maybe Obama can straighten out this mess, and one day we can have a celebration after all the guns have been taken out of the publics hands.
Posted by: steve Location: moyock on Jun 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Listen, Obama for President, if you think that we are all backwards in our thinking and values then, MOVE! Go live in Fantasy Land where no crimes take place. If you are against people defending themselves then, what are you going to do if one night you see an intruder coming through your window? By the time the authorities arrive, it may be too late!
Posted by: hope Location: NC on Jun 23, 2008 at 12:52 PM
To Obama for Prez, you can't be serious. It is called self defense. Your charge of "ATTEMPTED robbery" was lessened only because pizza guy defended himself. The report said they were "hitting him", and he was outnumbered. No one knows what this gang intended & pizza guy elected not to wait around & find out. It may be backward thinking, but I can't say that I fault him for defending himself. What kind of thinking was used by his assailants? I do feel for the parents who are suffering however, people need to realize there ARE consequences for actions. You do something stupid, people suffer. It is unfortunate, but pizza guy was the victim as he went about his day doing a job.
Posted by: Ref Jedi Location: Greene County on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:07 AM
To Elena in Cary: Please don't beg, Just say what you have to say and then go from there. I stick by what I wrote ealier. Do you disagree? If so why?
Posted by: Concerned Location: Washington on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM
I have been sitting in ICU everyday. The father has been up there everyday praying for his son. When they have a prayer circle in the morning his dad is in that circle. We cant control what our kids do. My kids are not perfect some just dont get caught. But no matter what we still love our kids and always will. So to the parents of Elvis, youare in our prayers and maybe this will teach all the kids out there a lesson. We dont know why God allowed this to happen but he does. It might be to show teenagers that something bad can happen when making bad choices.
Posted by: John Location: Choco on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Thank you Pizza guy-I don't care how old you are, what color you are, or where you are from; stealing is wrong, and physically assaulting someone is illegal. I guess the pizza man taught the thugs a lesson that their families missed. And if I had to deliver pizza in gville I would darn sure carry a gun with me.
Posted by: Obama for President Location: Greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 09:29 AM
I can't beleive all the crazy people here in Greenville. The kids did not pull a gun on the Pizza man. Why would it be alright for the pizza man to pull a gun? Maybe he should have been carrying Mace?? The pizza guy needs to be locked up for attempted murder. The kids need to be locked up for attempted robbery. The comments on this site are typical of backwards/backwoods thinking of the people of the area. When Obama is elected president, maybe he can appoint Supreme Court Justices that will make this illegal. Just look what the Republican led administration has caused.
Posted by: To obvious Location: greenville on Jun 23, 2008 at 07:16 AM
You're exactly right. I don't hope for this boy to lose his life, but I do hope what has haappened will make him think about changing it. No one here knows what those boys would have done if the pizza guy didn't have a gun. To Brooke, do you really think he should have just taken the beating, given up his money, and hope for the best? If you were jumped by several girls at school- would you just lay there and take it?
Posted by: English Major Location: New Bern on Jun 22, 2008 at 10:02 PM
People. The right to "bare arms" means you can wear a sleeveless shirt. The right to "bear arms" means you can carry a weapon. Different meanings. For the record, I would have shot the thugs. And, since I learned to shoot at the ripe old age of seven, I would have hit them.
Posted by: Obvious Location: Greenville on Jun 22, 2008 at 07:44 PM
A prank? Snatching a pizza from a pizza delivery guy and taking off running. That is a prank. Once you start to get violent, it is no longer a prank. Ordering a pizza to the wrong address and no one is there when pizza guy arrives. That is a prank. Putting hot sauce on your friends upper lip while he sleeps away a drunken stupor. That is a prank. Moving all of your roomates belongings down the dorm room hall and having hall mates tell him he has been kicked out of the dorm. That is a prank. Hitting, punching, kicking, stomping, etc. None of those constitute a prank. Once you bring violence into the equation, you cannot expect to be dealt with as if it were a prank. No one is going to laugh it off later, like haha we sure got him. No, he sure got you. I am sorry that a young man is fighting for his life. But you cannot blame the pizza guy. I hope the young man pulls through. I would have done the same thing though. Someone beating on me and I have a gun? Come on now..
Posted by: k Location: greenville on Jun 22, 2008 at 04:12 PM
gang members and thugs are like insects who scuttle in every dark corner, taking everything that doesnt belong to them, knocking over everyone who gets in their way. they have no respect and deserve no respect, just the primitive fear of death. they cannot communicate to anyone on a human level, thats why they beat down and shoot what they cannot move or make their own. this is a shame, and i am only sorry that they were not brought up knowing any better. i hope one day they can evolve from insects and get a voice.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 22, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Wow people got jokes. Thats real nice.
Posted by: freedom to fight back on Jun 22, 2008 at 07:50 AM
Horray for our first and second Amendment RIGHTS -
Posted by: Mike Location: Edenton on Jun 22, 2008 at 06:20 AM
I can't believe all the thug-lovers making comments defending their "precious angels" as making a bad decision. Acts like this at their age is only a precursor for more serious offenses. Shot 8 times? The pizza guy should have spread it around to the others as well. Must have been small caliber. Personally I carry a large caliber.
Posted by: Elena Location: Cary, NC on Jun 22, 2008 at 04:55 AM
Reply to Red Jedi: I beg your pard
Posted by: mtrl Location: bertie on Jun 21, 2008 at 10:48 PM
not to interrupt your bickering but what kind of toppings were on the pizza.
Posted by: Obama 08 4 Prez! on Jun 21, 2008 at 05:20 PM
LoL, this was planned by a 14 year old child and the adults listened to him! LLLLOOOLLL Good for you pizza guy. Its like I tell my son, don't ever start a fight but if someone start one with you, make sure you finish it. I bet pizza boy is all upset and confused in the head because he shot someone, get over it. They weren't confused and upset when they were beating you, just stupid because they didn't expect you would be armed.
Posted by: Red Jedi Location: Greene County on Jun 21, 2008 at 02:02 PM
It is amazing the diffrent takes that people are posting up here on this crime. From They think it is great to poor poor kid who got shot. One thing is for sure!!! if this was any other country you would not be able to write and post your thoughts like you do here. So good or bad this is America and I am proud to live here!!!! So to everyone......... build a bridge and lets just get over it and move on!!!!!
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 21, 2008 at 02:02 PM
...Everyone has different opinions and IDC what ya'll think I have compassion for DJ(the robber) and the pizza guy as well but Dj is the one sitting up in the ICU fighting for his life while his mother and younger brother sit there and prays he makes it...everone keeps saying what if the pizza guy was your your son,brother father,etc how would I feel but what if the robber was YOUR brother,father,son,etc would you sit up here and criticize him and say he deserved it,NO i don't think you would.

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Posted by: JB Location: Greenville on Jun 21, 2008 at 11:46 AM
To Concern: So, these guys should just be forgiven? It was ok to beat and kick an innocent citezen? These idiots got what they deserved..
Posted by: Richard Location: Jacksonville on Jun 21, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Yea! The 2nd Amendment and "the right to keep and bear arms" really does work!
Posted by: light Location: greenville on Jun 21, 2008 at 09:40 AM
Pizza guy was prepared because he is aware of the crime that surrounds delivery drivers and basically all the citizens around Greenville..To everyone,though, instead of bashing these "thugs" let us pray for this community because these incidents are certaintly on the rise and we need a much higher power to help us win the fight against violence in our streets.
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Jun 21, 2008 at 09:39 AM
I used to work at the PCDC and TRUST me, these inmates are living in the lap of luxury!
Posted by: jennifer Location: bertie on Jun 21, 2008 at 08:38 AM
I don't agree with violence but sometimes you do have to defend and protect yourself. I bet those robbers will think twice about repeating that stunt.
Posted by: teacher greenville on Jun 21, 2008 at 05:30 AM
To Prison guard...you are right, and the only word i can think of is it sucks. I have students that are locked up, and when they get out, they say it was not bad. lock up doesn't seem to be a punishment to anyone but us. they get out and repeat offenses. We will soon be having more prisons than schools at the rate we are going. where else can you get anything you want? it's a crime and a shame for all that follow the law and keep having to pay for all of this.
Posted by: Concern Location: GVille on Jun 21, 2008 at 03:58 AM
Get Real People... You really think that a 17 year old boy deserve to fight for his life due to misjudegement on his part. The delivery guy didn't suffer any serious injuries because if he did he wouldn't of been able to shoot deans 8 times. If you really knew the time of kids that was arrested for this crime then you wouldnt call them thugs. I personally know two of the kids and one of them was a football player for south central who has a job. It was a mistake that he made that would affect the rest of his life. He also have to deal with the fact that his friend might not make it. So if you really knew the facts ... you wouldn't be making comments. Was 8 times necessary??? I don't think so
Posted by: BearWrestler Location: GVille on Jun 21, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Prison guard, I am voting you for president. To GPD, I was not trying to say this was GPD's fault. I do question the commanders though.
Why is it that on any Thursday through Saturday downtown you will have at times 30 officers controlling the college(educated) kids, yet maybe one car riding through the statistically bad areas of town. Why is it that 20 cops will break up a peaceful college party with Pepper gas, yet you let the gangs gather in the middle of the road altering traffic and intimidating the public?
I do feel the leaders need to be dealt with. Strategy is all wrong. One of the worst is a Tobacco chewing power monger that just happens to be white. So I don't think it is a race issue at all, just a cherry picking poor strategy issue.
Maybe the fact that the college kids don't shoot back is why they are a target more than the criminals.
Posted by: Prison Guard on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:12 PM
G'ville citizen,if only taxpayers knew what really goes on in prisons,there would definitely be a revolt...these prisoners have more rights than you or I ever thought about having..,plus they get free meals (and many get specialized meals if they request),free dental care,free medical care and if you curse them back when they curse at you,you get written up...God forbid you should ever think about hitting one of them...they are catered to like millionaires,whatever they want they can get;sex,drugs,money,etc...so going to prison these days is not a punishment,it is a far better lifestyle than most of these prisoners ever knew on the outside...This is what your taxes & mine are paying for thanks to liberal,bleeding-heart politicians who don't have a clue as to what these prisoners are capable of on the outside..Think about it...there is no longer any deterrent to crime in this country because prison is better than home to them..
Posted by: G'ville citizen on Jun 20, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Great job to pizza delivery guy--if he did not have a gun and use it to protect himself there is no telling what those idiots would have done to him. Crime is terrible. People need to learn to get a real job and take care of themselves instead of stealing from someone else. Now days too many people want to rob someone. Unfortunately Elvis is getting free medical care (our tax dollars are paying)then when he goes to jail he will get free care again (warm bed, food, clothing, medical care, tv, etc) that our tax dollars are paying for. There needs stricter punishments and prisoners need to "earn" their keep in jail. Should be able to find some type of job for them if nothing else stuffing envelopes for 8hrs/day--I have to work to get the things that I need. Prisoners have too many "rights
Posted by: Sue Location: Washington,NC on Jun 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM
L T, I agree with one thing you say,and that is maybe it is not the parents fault..I do not know if that is true or not..maybe the parents are trying their best to raise these children...it is a difficult time these days to bring kids up with decency..however,having said that,these kids may not be cold hearted, BUT they are criminals... Decent lawabiding people do not rob someone for a "prank" or a "joke". Maybe this will scare them enough to get their lives together...As for Pizza Guy,he deserves a medal...
Posted by: CBR Location: Wilson on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:39 AM
He was trying to earn money in a way that is increasingly hard due to gas prices. Unfortunately, bullets are way more expensive now, too. Those worthless thugs are lucky he was a broke pizza man or else he would have been able to afford to plug all of them. On another note, this took place in a relatively new duplex neighborhood outside of Greenville. Just a few years ago it was all new and nice in there, so it's not like he was even near the wrong part of town. Way to go Chanello's!
Posted by: AMEN! Location: Greenville on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:31 AM
The pizza driver definitely deserves a medal!!! Give him 5!! I think they should all be given guns as protection! It will teach those stupid thugs a lesson.... try to take something that's not yours - you will get a bullet AND get charged with your crime! IDIOTS!!!
Posted by: Justice Location: WASHINGTON on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Give the pizza driver a Medal. We need more people like him in all of NC.
Posted by: Donald Messer Location: new bern on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Good for him, when a person can't make a living because of thugs, three cheers for him.
Posted by: PorkChop Location: Greenville on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:10 AM
To GPD Impact Officer; so if we don't talk about it we can make it go away? Again, it's free speech. And if free speech is causing problems on the force, then you guys havve serious problems. Stop whining and address the issues. Maybe start with crime first, then your internal problems.
Posted by: American Citizen Location: Plymouth on Jun 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
This is a perfect example of why we have the right to bare arms. If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. If everyone carried one, punks like this would have to stick to playing "grand theft auto" and the other gangster games. This man should be commended highly and given a reward. To bad he couldn't have put some lead in the rest of the little punk criminals. Then they would all have something to brag about in prison. "Yeah, this scare came from the pizza guy we tried to rob." Make sure you put them in the cell with Ben Dover. He'll treat them the way they deserve.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I personally know Sunil Persaud, and would never think he would do something like this..but..cant judge book bye cover right but..anyways...Sunil keep your head up man
Posted by: ktown nog Location: kinston baby on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
thats awesome.. im sure a 14 yr old planned it all and the older kids just did as they were told.
Posted by: tony Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 10:23 PM
hey pizza man, you the man, no remorses man, you did just fine,if i see you i will buy you a beer. you the man bro.
Posted by: a d p Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 10:14 PM
thats ok pitza man. if police cant stop the crime in greenville, you did hte right thing, they are just criminal, they will robe you, may injure or kill you for a few dollars, is about time, you did just fine, send a message
Posted by: washington Location: jim on Jun 19, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Yeah lets charge the 14 year old. We was more than likely the smartest one in the group.
Posted by: Ms Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:03 PM
Enough with all the racial comments! That's not the issue. Grow up people and stop acting like the stupid criminals. I have lived in Greenville for less than a year, and yes crime has really gotten out of hand. We all read or hear about it every day. To be honest, other than going to work and school I rarely leave my home, because it's that bad out there. Most of the crimes do seem to be committed by young people. Maybe we should have a curfew (ASAP) to start with. I don't know what to do about it but, I do know we have to be united not divided. The pizza guy did what he had to in order to protect himself. I have not been here long enough to know much about the GPD, but I'm pretty sure they are doing what they can with what they have.
Posted by: To GPD IMPACT Officer Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 07:02 PM
I'm with you, Bro. I see it, too. We're starting to look at each other and it is going to be bad all the way around if this doesn't stop. Some people are trying to turn a problem with the chief's policing policies into a racial problem between officers. Signed, a GPD police officer.
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Thank God I'm moving back north next year! We don't have to deal with issues like this where I'm from.
Posted by: L T on Jun 19, 2008 at 06:07 PM
for the ones blaming parents u cant. its not them. we know what these kids did wz wrong and u cant look past it. BUT they are nt cold hearted criminals...it probably wz a prank or a joke. they didnt have weapons or guns...just tryna take some pizza. they should be punished...of course...but thugs????...come on now. the pizza didnt have to fire that many times..come on now...all he had to do wz fire enough to scare them away nt try to kill them. it wont like they wz tryna kill him.
Posted by: GPD IMPACT Officer Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 05:39 PM
Porkchop, the comments on these blogs right now are going to cause irrepairable damage between some of the white and black officers at GPD. These will remain long after Chief Anderson has retired or gone to work somewhere else. That's what I'm referring to because I'm going to have to deal with it for a long time and am already seeing it. It bothers me to see a rift forming and nothing good is going to come from it. Signed, a white GPD police officer.
Posted by: T J Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 05:25 PM
no wonder why people are crying and getting mad why pizza stores dont deliver to certain places, he did the right thing saving his life for the mangers profit off the pizzas. the money dosnt go to the driver it goes to the store. he did the right thing and all other drivers will start doing the same. people who are broke need some newer brains there idiots they need better parents
Posted by: Eat more Channello's on Jun 19, 2008 at 05:15 PM
We love the pizza and the drivers!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: PorkChop Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 04:52 PM
To GMD Impact Officer: get this blog off the air? Read the constituion, the part about free speech. Then don't forget to send in your Nazi Party dues.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 19, 2008 at 04:26 PM
"Brooke." I went to South Central too. They aren't "good boys." The good boys are the ones getting an education and working hard to make it somewhere in life. It is a shame that you think the good ones are the guys who sit around and plan to "jump" and rob somebody to make their living. It is called GETTING A JOB. A mistake is accidentally stepping on someone’s toe, not purposely trying to inflict pain and steal money. Hopefully once you get out of high school, you will learn how the real world works. I'd like to hear you defend a thug when they jump you and try to steal your money. I bet you will not be saying "They are just kids, they didn't know any better!" I suppose it would have been better if the pizza guy didn't have a weapon and was beat to death? Good thing he did. Maybe they will think twice next time. Hunny, use the common sense and education I KNOW they provide you with at South Central. I'm a graduate and going somewhere with my life. Are you?
Posted by: Me on Jun 19, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Hey concerned, an article in the Daily Reflector says the owner of Chanello's Pizza stands behind his employee 100%. Didn't know he was carrying a gun, but he gave the deliverly guy the rest of the week off to get over his trama of being jumped and the shooting. The driver will not be subject to anything as far as the article states from the guys employer.
Posted by: To Mark and Others Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 03:44 PM
GPD Impact Officer is referring to petition comments, Reflector comments, and WITN comments. Maybe not in this particular article, but race has been mentioned in almost all of the others. He knows that it will cause a division in black and white officers because as one officer stated in the blog "IT's TOO LATE." When officer(s) stated the chief showed favor to the black officers over the white officers, showed love to the black officers and not the white officers, stated the chief targeted and punished white officers and not black officers for policy violations, the writing was on the wall for all of us.
Posted by: Mark Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 03:16 PM
To GPD Impact Officer: I did not see where race was mentioned in the WITN report. So your point is?
Posted by: Rosebud Location: Lagrange on Jun 19, 2008 at 03:01 PM
They should charge the parents to, maybe they would keep their little thug-rats home. Pizza man deserves a raise.
Posted by: Concerned Location: Washington County on Jun 19, 2008 at 02:44 PM
To GPD Impact Officer - I don't understand why this will cause division among black and white officers. Aren't police officers sworn to enforce and uphold the law no matter what the race is of the victim or the one committing the crime? Statements like yours just make things worse. This incident has to do with right and wrong - not about black and white. If it causes division then something is wrong in the police department.
Posted by: Tammy Location: Williamston on Jun 19, 2008 at 02:33 PM
I really dont mean any harm but "Good Enough For them" its way pass time for people to take up for themselves. These people get out here and try to rob, steal and vandalize other peoples property, they get exactly what they deserve. Im thankful that noone was killed as a result but maybe the injured one will think twice the next time he wanna rob someone. And for the 14 yr. old, ok he planned it, but the older ones went thru with it--tell me whos wisest? Its a trying time in America. I wish everybody will do right, but I know thats wishful thinking
Posted by: Pyr8 chica Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:54 PM
I read these comments and I realized that I'm guilty of stereotyping as well.Had I not known two of the guys, I would've attributed their behavior to their parents or lack of, because in most cases the criminals are from broken homes and lack education.This is case of teenagers being idiots.Sometimes you have no good reason for doing things except boredom.The guy that was shot is from a good christian home..MOTHER and FATHER present.He was not a reflection of his parents.Has anyone noticed where these guys lived? All r from decent neighborhoods.None of them had a need to rob this pizza guy.Not to mention the fact they took direction from a 14 year old!Granted, they didn't make the best decision, and yes they should definitely be punished, but please don't blame the parents for the kids' lack of judgement. I applaud the pizza guy for protecting himself.I'm just sorry that someone is fighting for their life over something that didn't even need to happen!These guys were def stuck on stupid
Posted by: Unbelievable! Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:42 PM
This "Brooke" posting.. is infuriating!! Chalk it up to them being teenagers (who are all old enough to know right from wrong)? Stupid stuff? You've got to be kidding! Really good boys? How good would the boys be if YOU, my dear little Brooke, were the one on the ground, being KICKED, HIT, BEAT, and all the while the perpetrators laughing? This is NO MISTAKE! This was planned and executed. It's about time these "mistakes" are dealt with. The only mistake made was that the pizza guy wasn't able to get a cleaner shot. Yes, they are kids, kids who want to commit adult crimes and therefore, should receive adult consequences. You end by saying, "Think how you would feel if no one were on your side?" You mean like the pizza guy with no one on his side while 3( ) "kids" beat him?? YOU are unbelievable, Brooke, even though you're, obviously, a "kid" yourself and entirely too naive to have even commented..
Posted by: feels good to strike back Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Welcome to the wild wild west!!! well i can guarentee you 1 thing.... The thug will think twice before they're next robbery...!
Posted by: Ann Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Brooke, I was young once, but never resorted to robbery. "Good kids" do not rob people. Plain and simple. You related you attend school with "Larry, Curly, Moe and Shemp". Are they teaching robbery methods at South Central? If not, that should be your clue. Don't be so ready to defend these "good guys" until you have been a crime victim. Although I don't wish anyone dead,however; I support the actions of the deliveryman. Why should he be subjected to being beat and kicked for just doing his job. Are you subjected to that type of treatment at school? Do your parents beat and kick you? We should live in a society where being safe is the norm, not the exception. If you are not part of the solution, you must be part of the problem. By the way, I will expect you to deposit vast amounts of money in your "friends" canteen accounts so they will be comfortable during their incarcertion. "True friends" do that, you know?
Posted by: Concerned on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Hey, if anyone finds out that the pizza place does anything to this driver for his actions, then please spread the word and tell everyone not to eat there..... We support the pizza guy! You're a hero!!
Posted by: DoxieLover Location: Grifton on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Hey Brooke, "Good Boys" don't rob. Hooray for the pizza guy!!! Finally someone taking action. I hope the next potential victim of any crime does the same thing
Posted by: Think! Location: Winterville on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:48 AM
If anyone is interesting in owning a gun, I suggest you take a class on how to properly handle it. If you're interested in LEGALLY carrying a concealed weapon, please contact Pitt CC (Continuing Education Department) for a class to carry a concealed weapon (so that you can get the permit). Don't get yourselves in trouble with the law by not abiding by it.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:26 AM
it shouldn't be a worker's compensation claim because the thugs weren't working for the pizza place, and last time I checked, gangs don't have worker compensation plans!!! Unfortunately, we probably are paying for his bills because he's probably on medicaid or doesn't have insurance so it's coming out of our pockets anyway. Serves the thug right--maybe he'll think twice before he robs someone next time
Posted by: Hope on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:04 AM
I know what Kind of Gang those young men should belong to !! The Chain Gang!
Posted by: JSB Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Brooke, you're a poor judge of character. I was once a teenager and, yes, I did some stupid things, but I never robbed anyone, attacked them, or caused anyone else any harm. One of those THUGS got what he deserved and maybe he will learn his lesson, and if he dies, well that's one less to worry about. That's one more score for the good guys!
Posted by: Sue Location: Washington,NC on Jun 19, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Brooke...obviously you are young and have a lot to learn about real life....thugs are thugs are thugs even if you are acquainted with them...put yourself in the pizza guys position with them coming after you....would you have scolded them as they were assaulting you? Grow up...
Posted by: alice Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 09:09 AM
To Brooke, How would you feel if someone attacked anyone in your family? Come on back with a comment. Something is wrong with you girl. But we all know that from reading your comments. So say something now to all of us. .
Posted by: Wrong is wrong on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:55 AM
I agree with comment posted by BearWrestler. It has been clear to me on several occasions that the Pd does contribute to some problems and not slove them. I believe it is lack of education.
Posted by: to GPD officer Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:50 AM
Not everything is about your black and white officers. The chief, Carolyn Melvin and the SCLC made this about RACE. Citizens wanted answers about him messing with the crime stats and crime rate not about black kids beating a pizza delivery driver who happened to defend his LIFE. Had he not God only knows what would have happened to that poor man. Now his employer has to foot the bill for these PUNKS bc it is a Workers Compensation Injury so yet again we pay the price for these punks! Us the tax payers and employees and employers of Greenville so the Council and the Chief should be footing the bill for this crime and explain to our city why it is rampid like it is. More citizens should stand up for themselves. I now carry a gun every where I go and I will use it if someone trys to mug, rape, molest, carjack or harm me in any way!
Posted by: DD on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:33 AM
To Brooke....and the pizza guy could just as easily been your brother, Father, uncle, cousin or son.....Would you still be on the robberers side then just because they were teenagers?...........and if he had not had the gun who knows what these goons would have done to him....I think people have a right to protect themselves.
Posted by: Go figure on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:30 AM
Koodoo's to the Pizza guy!!!!! What's Greenville come to. If the people who do these crimes have to pay for them, we might allieviate problems. No, we give them a slap on the hands and that's it. They don't care if they go to jail or even prison. They get out and do it again, probably worse. They need REAL PUNISHMENT. And if the punishment is bad enough it might just decrease crime. Don't put them in prison and we pay for their room and board. Get rid of them. The first problem is their parents and how they were raised, then they go to public school and get social promotion and know nothing. Then it's our problem when they are out in the world. It's our own fault, just giving them everything they want and not having to work for it and not even getting a decent education. Someone needs to open their eyes. Greenville's crime WILL get worse if the law doesn't enforce more to these so called "citizens" or we just do it ourselves.
Posted by: marie Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:16 AM
Crime in Greenville is getting worse because of gangs, drugs, no punishment for crimes, and other things. I think we all have to take a role in fighting this crime. It is wrong to rob and hurt people. There is no excuse for violence. Recently there have been severe beatings of victims during robberies. We should report suspicious activities to police, take pictures with your cell phone, help put the criminals behind bars. The crimes should be punished by the courts. We shouldn't be put in the position of having to buy a gun and defend ourselves against mean people. But I agree that we need to bear arms to protect ourselves against criminals and not try to explain why the poor little criminals attack others. Pizza man is my hero.
Posted by: amanda Location: greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:56 AM
For all of the people up here making comments I have a question for you all; have you ever gave thought or took effort in helping "your" (the city belongs to us as a whole regardless of who we are) Greenville fight back against crime in a positive way. Take time with kids even if they are not yours and talk to them about life and do you best to help them understand what its really all about. You will be amazed with the results a positive role model will have on a child
Posted by: BearWrestler Location: Greenville New Bern on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:55 AM
!!!!GPD IMPACT Officer!!!! Why are you making this out to be a Black-White thing. You are the one causing a problem. This is clearly a Good vs. Bad Issue. The Pizza man was clearly in the right here. I personally know delivery drivers that have ended up in the hospital because of thugs like the ones that got shot. It is good to see that the Good "working" man was the one that shot the poorly raised Thugs. Crime should hurt those that commit the crime!!!
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:52 AM
To Brooke Robbery is not a mistake, its a thought out choice. Now grabbing a salt packet and putting it in your coffee when you meant to grab a sugar packet .... now thats a mistake.
Posted by: BearWrestler Location: Greenville/New Bern on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:50 AM
It is so good to see that the owner of the restaurant stands behind his employee, the victim. Police are so stretched thin that they cannot control the crime that is growing so rampant and strong. It is good to see people defending them selves. This is the communities fault. This is a direct result of bad parenting on behalf of the gang bangers that tried to rob this working man.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I believe that the reason these kids act out like this is because nobody cares about them they just put all the blame on them and when they get in trouble throw them in jail then its nobody's problem anymore. If people would be more invloved with the young peoplethis could probably be prevented and for the person who said shame on mother ,you don't know nothing about just because i have compassion for DJ and for his family,his family is devastated,and don't think that i don't have compassion for the pizza guy because i do.

Edited Per "Hey, Read The Rules"

Posted by: C. Bronson Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM
This Brooke person is an idiot. OMG...from her comments, I wonder what SHE does in her spare time and how she would feel if the pizza guy had been her brother, father, boyfriend, etc.
Posted by: Louie Dogz Location: Da Lake on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Man that pizza guy was set trippin in the wrong hood but he came out on top...early..but be easy on the kidz or adults im sure they just palyed a little too much grand theft auto
Posted by: Kathy Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:23 PM
To Jester: thank you for the info on how to obtain a gun. After reading the comment from "Brooke" I am now without a doubt purchasing a gun. Those "boys" had intent to hurt that pizza delivery person. The pizza delivery person was within his right to defend himself. I am to the point that if one of these "boys" decides to approach me, look out because I am not going down without a fight!
Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Well the daily reflector has just posted that: Robbery suspect remains in critical condition I bet now the few robbers that do watch and read tne news will take heed to this. Otherwise hopefully word of mouth will get around.
Posted by: Freda Location: Washington on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM
What would have happened to the pizza guy if he had not had his gun. He may not be here today. Way to go pizza guy...you probably saved your life! I say don't touch my body if you don't want me to fight back/defend myself..because I plan on defending myself to the best of my ability. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT!!!!!! Crime in Greenville is way to high. Don't let these idiots back out on the streets anytime soon.
Posted by: zman Location: G'ville on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Pizza man for police chief!!
Posted by: Wood Location: Washington on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Whoopee for the taxi driver who fought back and shot his would be robbers. A group of hoodlums that were very lucky they didn't get killed or more seriously injured. Give the Driver a Medal of Bravery. I sure Hope no one has any idea of charging him with any violation. Our Society has tied the hands of the Police, if they shoot one of them they are removed from duty, tried as a criminal, etc. and dragged all through the BROKEN legal system.
Posted by: GPD IMPACT Officer Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM
WITN, please take this blog off the web. It is only going to cause division between white and black officers in the police department and that is not going to accomplish anything.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:35 PM
Thank You Mommy, You just proved they are THUGS by definition. Love you CHANELLO'S
Posted by: Bob Location: Winterville on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:35 PM
Umm-"mjb" unfortunately message boards can not show tone. "Democrat" was using sarcasm to make a "Rush" like point. To lay this at the feet of a political party is a stretch. This is one registered democrat that has CCL, range regular, and applaud pizza guy. Pizza guy for Police Chief should be a G'ville bumper sticker! And, Brooke, I appreciate that you are young and have sympathy for your friends, but youth also face grave harm (not to mention the intended victim!) when they make poor choices. Life is fragile and can be at risk in a blink of an eye; youth are especially at risk when making serious, poor adult like decisions with an immature mind. Others are right, the revolving justice door needs to keep serious/dangerous types behind bars for a LONG time. We are all tired of the thugs, if you don't like the term, don't act the dang part.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:30 PM
These boys got a second chance in life, let's just see how long it is before they try this again, They need to be in church thanking GOD that they did not get themselves killed trying to rob that guy, but I am sure they will be back on the streets soon THUGGING around.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:20 PM
Hey Brooke, was one of those THUGS your son? How would you feel if the pizza guy was your child? just a thought. Maybe the next robbery will be against you and then you may change your mind, People who try to physically hurt other people for gain deserves everything they get.
Posted by: Nuts Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:12 PM
"Really good boys" don't rob people. Sure they are kids. I have 5 kids but none of them are going to hold up a pizza guy for money. Sure the economy is bad...lets blame that too. Not enough money out there so we must turn to violence! Kids are kids and make mistakes all the time. I will agree with that but this was no mistake. This was thought out and planned by a 14 year old. Hmm... they couldn't say no? They had to do what he said? Hmm...what about the old...if he told you to jump off a building.... guess they'd all be dead huh? You're right Brooke...these are some good, good boys. These good boys will get themselves a nice court date, with a lovely record and perhaps a cozy cell to go with it. Because that my dear is what good boys do!! Shame on your Mama!!!
Posted by: Helen Location: Kinston on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:01 PM
Everyone knows the legal system will turn them loose. People have no choice anymore, their parents don't care about them. Why should we?
Posted by: Jester Location: Greenville, NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 08:10 PM
"But for all ya'll to sit up here and side with the pizza guy who had a gun that probably wasn't registered and put those boys down is digusting" Once again, in the state of NC, and most other states, there is no such thing as gun "registration". Learn your state laws before making comments please. "Those boys" were robbers who beat the crap out of a pizza man so bad he had to go to the hospital and he waited UNTIL they started beating him before he started shooting. Sounds to me like he had a pretty good bit of self restraint.
Posted by: mjb Location: windsor on Jun 18, 2008 at 07:53 PM
Democrat!?! So it's okay to better your situation by robbing someone? How were they helping society? I guess this is what we have to look forward to when the Democrats are in power. I hope society will be exactly how you want it. Law abiding citizens will want to live in prison to be protected from society.
Posted by: Concerned resident Location: Greenvile on Jun 18, 2008 at 07:21 PM
People need to realize that when one is in a stressful situation like a robbery in many cases you don’t have time to aim, its simply point and pull the trigger you don’t take time to aim. For all we know he might have hit the one guy multiple times. Something else to keep in mind is that NC law prohibits you from shooting a thief or robber in the back while they are fleeing. According to the law the danger has passed. So once he pulled his gun out and fired more then likely everyone scattered/ ran away so if he had of shot them in the back he would be charged.
Posted by: Ted Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 07:00 PM
Yes, children who steal and rob are thugs no matter who's they may be.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:58 PM
the intentions of the driver were probably not shoot to kill, even though he was well within his rights to do so. They were shoot to get them to stop beating the crap out of him.
Posted by: Robert Location: Ft. Worth, TX on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:57 PM
Glad to see this ended the way it did. Concealed carry is a blessing, especially for people with a job such as this who are constantly placed in compromising positions. I agree that all those kids should be tried as adults... A crime committed by a 14 year old is just as harmful as a one by a 34 year old, and its not like the 14 year old didn't know the consequences of his actions.
Posted by: Greenville resident on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:39 PM
Hooray for the Pizza man!!!
Posted by: Mommy Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:25 PM
"It is wrong to call someone a thug when you don't know them. They are actually decent children, they just made some wrong mistakes. I believe they have learned their lesson." THAT IS SO HILARIOUS! IS THERE SOME SORT OF SCHOOL TO OBTAIN YOUR THUG STATUS! here is the definition of a thug: a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer. Hmmmm sound familiar! LOVE CHANELLO's
Posted by: Ms. E Location: NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:25 PM
To the pizza guy congrats, the only thing that you were trying to do is protect yourself. It seems to me that's what we will have to start doing, being that the police are focused on the chief at this moment.
Posted by: Brooke Location: Greenvillle on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:59 PM
You people are unbelievable...yes those boys should not have done what they did but the fact is their teenagers and they do stupid stuff sometimes and by no means can any of you sit up here and say your perfect and have never anything that was wrong before so who are you to judge someone's faults...You people don't know them i go to school with them and they are actually really good boys they just made a stupid mistake and thats something that will have to live with...But for all ya'll to sit up here and side with the pizza guy who had a gun that probably wasn't registered and put those boys down is digusting...the boys who got shot is in the hospital fighting for his life and all ya'll can say is he deserved what he got and calling him a thug and what not its disgust me...i believe the pizza man should be charged...so the next time ya'll wanna judge somebody just think about if it was you in this situation and think how you would feel if no one was on your side!!! Remember their KIDS!!
Posted by: Democrat Location: In Power, Soon America Wide on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:29 PM
This story is typical of the problems our young men are facing nowadays. All they were trying to do was better their situation in life by EARNING some money. What do you expect them to do without an education? Pick turnips? It's challenging work to rob an unsuspecting pizza delivery guy. And by the way, they weren't kicking the delivery guy (who was wasting gasoline while trying to deliver artery-clogging "food" to some poor sucker). They have Restless-Leg Syndrome; look it up! These young men who stand accused of a crime were actually helping society ... and besides, they're the apple of their Mammy's eye.

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Posted by: Jose Location: Kinston on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Outstanding job pizza man. You fought back. Run for office, you've got my vote.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 04:56 PM
Hey Sha-na-na, go get your THUGS out of jail
Posted by: Anomonymous Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 04:15 PM
Thats what is wrong with society today. They judge too quickly. Yes they got what they deserve. So if your child decides to steal something or rob a store, are they a thug? Parents do the best they can to raise their children. It's the children's decision to abide by what they were taught. Just don't blame it on the parents.
Posted by: Jester Location: Greenville, NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:59 PM
To the person who asked "Where do I go to get and register a gun?". First off, you don't have to do any sort of registering of a gun. Secondly, there's a few places in Greenville to get a new gun. But as a US Army certified marksmanship instructor, what I recommend the most is finding someone who you know that already owns one and getting them to take you out shooting to make sure you really want one, then get them to go with you to make sure you don't get screwed over or sold a gun that isn't right for you. If you don't know anyone and need some guidance you, or anyone reading this, can contact me at boingjester@hotmail.com with any questions and I can even setup an instructional day at the Greenville range.
Posted by: Jester Location: Greenville, NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Dear Dave. You need to look up NC law. Unlicensed open carry and licensed concealed carry are both LEGAL in the state of NC. So you don't need any sort of license to carry a gun.

Edited per Hey Read The Rules

Posted by: Chris Location: Greenville, NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Anonymous: I don't think they have learned a lesson. Fact is they will get by with some community service or some other insignificant form of punishment. Maybe if the delivery driver had shot all of them, they would have learned a lesson.
Posted by: Fed up Female on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Way to go!! I started carrying a gun when I lived in Florida, downtown Jacksonville was already rough in the 80's. About two years ago, some crack head tried to open my car door at a stop light. He just needed to see my pistol and started running. The streets are not safe anywhere. Everyone needs protection, go to the range. Pizza man don't worry about center mass, shoot like the NC Highway Patrol does aim for the heart. To Anonymous, people call them like they see them THUGS, many people in prison that come from good homes but they are still THUGS. It is time to take our streets back.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:28 PM
A 14 year old planned the crime, "Who you baby daddy", Where are the parents on this, They should have to answer some very hard questions,
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:25 PM
Trying to rob someone that is trying to make a living is not a mistake, it is stupid. the thugs got what they deserve, it and it is ashame that people are coming to the defense of the THUGS, I once was young and stupid, but did not attempt to hurt or rob anyone. I just wish the pizza guy would have had better aim, that way they would not get a slap on the wrist and let go, Do you really believe they will not do it again?
Posted by: BUST A CAP Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:25 PM
I used to deliver pizza's and was luck enough to never have been robbed. I am sorry but decent kids don't make bad choices to hold up someone. A bad choice is just that a bad choice These "THUGS" thought about an executed a plan to steal and hurt someone. Luckly the tables got turned and they paid the price. Next time shoot to kill and let the undertaker worry about them. Good Job Pizza Guy
Posted by: Devil Dog Location: New Bern on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:20 PM
To anonymous...You are a bleeding heart LIBERAL. I recommend you take them in as foster parent.
Posted by: Not shocked Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Funny...Anonymous says this crime was not done by thugs - since we don't know them, don't call them thugs? Hmm... a thug, is a thug...is a THUG...do the deed...get the title!! I agree....Pizza Guy for Chief! At least he tried to handle the situation. The sad part is this happens all the time. Next time we could be saying goodbye to a pizza guy. What a shame. To Greenville City Council/PD etc: what's the limit? How bad to the crimes have to get? How many lives do we have to take? How much more will you tolerate before you step up to this EVER GROWING plate????????
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:14 PM
I can't believe that they aren't going to cite him for the illegal carrying of a gun. It seems that the GPD would arrest people for that, BUT when it comes to these street thugs with guns, they won't do anything about it.
Posted by: Teresa Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:57 PM
Good for the pizza man!!! It's about time people realized that everyone has the right to bear arms and in a city that wants to blame rapid population growth on the rise in crime, then the citizens have got to start doing what they gotta do to protect themselves. The public needs to educate themselves and be ready to defend themselves should the situation arise. And at this rate, no one should be so ignorant as to not think it couldn't happen to them. We're all targets to people who committ these kinds of crimes.
Posted by: Anonymous Location: Greenville on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:41 PM
It is wrong to call someone a thug when you don't know them. They are actually decent children, they just made some wrong mistakes. I believe they have learned their lesson.
Posted by: Sue Location: Greenville,NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Great going Pizza Guy!! Please put in an application for Police Chief! I wonder if an officer had been on the scene if he would have shot the guy or been scared to fire because of the Chief's recriminations...its so sad that more & more citzens are having to protect themselves with their own weapons against these ruthless trashy thugs...As for putting their parents in jail with them,most of them probably don't have both parents or even know who they are...they have no respect for anything or anyone & certainly no conscience...Unfortunately the system will feel sorry for these juvies and they will probably get probation,only to try the same thing again next time,except with a weapon...Sorry state of affairs in Greenville!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Maybe even 2 boxes
Posted by: Devil Dog Location: New Bern on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:56 PM
To Brandy...These thugs do not need to be around normal kids. They need to go to jail, and their parents rounded up and put in jail with them. Maybe the family will get to know each other better? The thugs do not need recreation, they need to learn how to be a productive citizen.
Posted by: Ron on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Will the chief classify this crime as a suspicious incident?
Posted by: Matt Location: NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Pizza guy for chief of police! Nice to see a little street justice.
Posted by: Brandy Location: Plymouth NC on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:51 AM
14 years old and already planning his future behind bars. What in the world is happening to us when a 14 year old convinces 2 18 year olds & a 17 year old to rob a pizza delivery guy...not a bank or a gas station but a pizza delivery guy ! We need more recreational activities around towns for the youth to learn about positive things.
Posted by: Michael Location: Merritt on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:47 AM
I too believe in street justice, but my bigger concern is for the next pizza person. You just know these idiots ain't done yet. They'll get their fingers smacked,then sent home. They will be smarter next time. I really hope I am wrong.
Posted by: concern on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:02 AM
these men need to be punishment, where are the fathers of these children most likely in prison and they are following the same foot steps as thier fathers
Posted by: anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:22 AM
All of us applaud this young man's actions. I sure hope the court system will do the same. These days it wouldn't surprise me to learn he was later charged in the shooting or sued by the family of the one he shot.
Posted by: Al Location: Washington on Jun 18, 2008 at 08:04 AM
Thumbs up, I like this guy & don't even know him. Personaly I always have a gun in my vehicle but if I were to get mugged, get to my vehicle, & shoot the thug in the back while he was running away, I would probably do time huh.
Posted by: Devil Dog Location: New Bern on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:05 AM
Great Job..However, it is READY---AIM---FIRE not FIRE----READY-- AIM. Practice makes perfect.
Posted by: I pack too Location: Edenton on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:48 AM
Awesome, however, the pizza guy must need a little more time on the firing range ! Good job, he gets to go home to his family !
Posted by: Mike Location: Edenton on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:42 AM
Kudos to the pizza guy! Go to the range and practice a little more for better aim. Remember.... center of mass. I've been saying all along more of this needs to happen to help reduce the rise in crime. Citizens are fed up. Maybe now they will take more of an active roll in their own safety.
Posted by: Jim Location: Washington on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Maybe this will start a trend in the right direction. There are not enough police officers to protect all of us so we need to be prepared to defend ourselves. This guy is a hero.
Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Jun 17, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Smart move! You wouldn't expect the pizza guy to be carrying a gun. Now they know who not to mess with.
Posted by: linda Location: washington on Jun 17, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Way to go. Thats what everyone needs to do in greenville is to protect them selfs cause the pd wont
Posted by: bandanaman247 Location: inthesmoke on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM
would you like thin or hollowpoints crush? WAY to go and dont think he's the only one maybe greenville sould open season on thugs they could call it slugs for thugs :)
Posted by: Kathy Location: Greenville on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:12 PM
It was only a matter of time before something like this happened. I am sure it won't be the last. This is what is becoming of this city. Where do I go to get and register a gun?
Posted by: Cisco Location: Greenville on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:12 PM
As an ex-pizza driver, I applaud the driver. He should have been a better shot, and been able to squeeze off more rounds. But the sad part is those stupid kid thugs won't learn a lesson , they will just get a gun to rob the pizza guy. Then somebody will really get hurt , or killed. They should all be charged as adults, especially the 14 year old. I think juvenile statutes should be abolished. Maybe if they get charged and imprisoned like the big boys, they MIGHT think twice about committing a crime. But probably not.They are just THUGS 4 LIFE, I guess.
Posted by: pistolie guy Location: Hubert on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Why are there no pictures of the thugs? Good job pizza delivery guy! You might want to put some time in at the range though. Only one hit??? C'mon people! We can do better! The next time a vulnerable law-abiding citizen is attacked by multiple thugs, I would like that person to score multiple hits with the shots fired from our constitutionally protected weapon!
Posted by: woo hoo Location: greenville on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:05 PM
This is why the chief needs to go! A citizen, hard working delivery driver had to defend himself. Good for you..They might think twice before they rob someone. Hope the kid shot wasn't black or they will say it is bc he is black instead of he tried to rob and kill an innocent citizen! crime still not a problem to the city council and mayor think again but the delivery driver and his family think it is a heck of a problem. I pray the suspect recovers and gets justice from the court system. Good job delivery driver for standing up for yourself. Where do you work I want my pizzas from there. Now there is leadership. Bet his boss won't fire him for doing his job to the best of his ability.
Posted by: Right on! on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Great job by the Pizza delivery guy! I'm glad he did what he did, because I bet the Greenville police were no where around.
Posted by: Billy Location: Washington on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:53 PM
YES! About time someone stand's up and takes the law into their own hands. GIVE HIM A BADGE!!!!If more of this would happen the thugs would think twice about "jumping" someone...I think everyone should carry a gun or atleast some mace. Congrats to the pizza del. driver and shame on those lil' thugs.....think this was GANG related, I do!
Posted by: Chris Location: Greenville on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:47 PM
Way to go pizza guy! Looks like the only way we can take our city back is to shoot every thug that commits a crime. It's sad that we have to take the law into our own hands because of the lack of police coverage.
Posted by: Keith Location: Winterville on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:43 PM
Way to go, Pizza Delivery Guy. You protected yourself. I hope those young thugs get what they deserve and thats jail time.
Posted by: Josh Location: Greenville on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Great job to the pizza guy, way to stand up against those useless trash. Maybe this will send the message to the thugs in our city that its time to get a , uh, real job.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:35 PM
It too bad he did not hit all of them.
Posted by: Get 'Em on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:25 PM
That's what it's going to take. Pistol-packing pizza drivers - I'm all for it!
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:24 PM
A 14 year old planned the crime! I guess you are never too young to be a thug. Kudos to the pizza guy though!
Posted by: Yippee on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:01 PM
Woohoo and go buddy!! He needs to send his story in to the NRA magazine!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 17, 2008 at 08:46 PM
serves him right!
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