Kentucky Defeats East Carolina In The Liberty Bowl
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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) -- Ventrell Jenkins scooped up a fumble and
barreled his 285-pound frame 56 yards for the go-ahead touchdown,
helping Kentucky win a program-best third straight bowl game with a
25-19 victory over East Carolina on Friday in the Liberty Bowl.

Kentucky (7-6) never led until Myron Pryor forced a fumble with
under 5 minutes left while East Carolina (9-5) was driving. In the
mad scramble for the loose ball, Jenkins came up with it and
rumbled down the right sideline untouched.

Now, coach Rich Brooks has accomplished something even the
legendary Bear Bryant couldn't at Kentucky: end three straight
postseasons with a win. The Wildcats won the last two Music City
Bowls behind former quarterback Andre Woodson.

East Carolina failed in its attempt to win a third game this
season against a BCS conference team. It had already defeated West
Virginia and Virginia Tech.

50th Annual Liberty Bowl:

East Carolina 19
Kentucky 25
Final

1st Quarter Summary:
ECU - Ben Hartman 22 yard field goal

2nd Quarter Summary:
ECU - Brandon Simmons 28 yard touchdown run
KEN - Lones Seiber 21 yard field goal
ECU - Darryl Freeney 80 yard touchdown reception

3rd Quarter Summary:
KEN - David Jones 99 Yard kick return
KEN - Kyrus Lanxter 19 yard touchdown reception
ECU - Ben Hartman 43 field goal

4th Quarter Summary:
KEN - Lones Seiber 34 yard field goal
KEN - Ventrell Jenkins 56 yard fumble return
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Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 12, 2009 at 10:14 AM
"I also disagree with your Johnson VS Smelly assessment taking an unproven HS recruit VS an established SEC QB"....deadfish, the only thing he has proven is that he can throw more interceptions than td passes (see 2008 season). and for his career he has 23 td's and 22 int's. if that is your definition of a good qb, then you have pretty low standards. again i ask you, what makes you think he is a very good qb? as for spurrier, he is living off of his past glory. what has he done since florida? lets see...bad nfl coach and south carolina hasnt done anything special in the sec. and the reason they are winning any games is because of defense. when you rank 96th in the nation in points per game and 97th in yards, you're not exactly an offensive guru.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 11, 2009 at 07:35 PM
joepirate:READ:IT IS VERY CLEAR:I unequivocally stated:"I hope he turns out to be better than the Crying Juvenile", IT FINITO. Excuse me Sir I forgot to put a coma after juvenile. Of course I was referring to Giavanni Ruffin. Barry, Sir: Ironically believe it or NOT Scout rates higher than Rivals. Rivals lists Vasalia, CA his home town. He also went to school(Sequoias JC) in CA. I don't agree with The Pirate Lady, you and your maternal and paternal instincts respectively, both your choices... I can't and will NOT give him a pass for his loud hot dog arrogant and unsportsmanlike conduct. I also disagree with your Johnson VS Smelly assessment taking an unproven HS recruit VS an established SEC QB. For you to wonder or question Spurrier's coaching is definitely out of line, unsportsmanlike? Mr. Spurrier is one of the most respected offensive CFB minds NOT to mention that he is also regarded one of the best QB gurus. For the sake of a statement Mr. Spurrier won the Heisman trophy in 1966.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 11, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I saw that Ruffin committed deadfish, thanks. Rivals has him as a three star, although you know I find all this "star treatment" somewhat dubious. This one was not a huge surprise as his roots are just up the road in Va. Beach. Chris Johnson is a young man, rookie, that has just had money and fame hit him quickly. I have met Chris off the field a couple times and know a couple of his Greenville crowd. He has a good heart. With respect, allow Chris to mature some before drawing conclusions. We witnessed how much he meant to the Titans yesterday in the 2nd half! I think I'll pass on Smelley too along with joe ; ECU has a Ga. recruit named Rio Johnson that is talented and flown under the radar. His upside is far better IMHO than a 22.5 year old, junior year Smelley. Smelley has apparently decided baseball is his future, although it makes you wonder what is going on down in SC with Spurrier. Happy Sunday all.
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 11, 2009 at 09:20 AM
smelley is going to alabama to play baseball...and what have you seen from him that makes you think he is a very good qb?? plus pat pinkney is applying for a medical hardship redshirt that got approved by conference usa, and is now going to the ncaa for approval. we need pat, cause we have a good nucleus of defensive and offensive players coming back, and if Kass was our quarterback, that would really suck. and what is your comment about crying juvenile joepirate supposed to mean?
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 11, 2009 at 04:32 AM
Barry: Check with your booster friend and ask him to pressure Mr. Holtz to go after South Carolina QB Chris Smelley who said he's transferring. Check: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-scarolina-smelley&prov=ap&type=lgns He is a very good QB. If you get this QB and the WR that I already told you about plus you have the commitment from the SC RB you guys are going to have a hell of a team! Bill and TPL are you with me(!)? Stay tuned!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 11, 2009 at 02:39 AM
Barry, Bill and TPL check: http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=3748970 A two star good size RB from Southern California who has just committed to ECU. I hope he turns out better than the Crying juvenile joepirate.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 10, 2009 at 07:59 PM
Poor CJ, no ROY and now NO SUPER BOWL!! HA HA! Another Dave prediction chalked up in the correct column!!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 10, 2009 at 06:12 PM
Hey deadfish, USC can't play in cold weather either!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 10, 2009 at 05:36 PM
We got another CJ on this thread aka Cheap Jerk.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 10, 2009 at 02:35 PM
"Dave from coolville=impostor. Readers judge from writing style"....how did you know? there can only be 1 answer...you are....... da da da da da inspector deadfish da da da da da da da whooo hoooo. btw....the rose bowl is basically a home game. you cant honestly say that playing 10 miles from your campus is not home field advantage. it might not be your home stadium, but it is a home game. why do you think unc wanted to be the #1 seed in basketball last year. because they basically had all home games leading up to the final four. was it at the dean dome, no. but it was an obvious home court advantage for unc, period.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 10, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Check: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=898638 Dave from coolville=impostor. Readers judge from writing style. joepirate: The Rose Bowl technically is NOT an USC's home game; WHY do you insist? Games at the LA Coliseum are HOME games, period. I am NOT debating this issue anymore. Barry: Believe it or NOT the PAC-10 commissioner is NOT play-off friendly, go figure. Other BCS schools presidents don't care fro the format, either. Good old dollar says it ALL! Ask Notre Dame and Kentucky. Their 0.500 records NOT only would have prevented them from a play-off game let alone a bowl game. The play-off system rules them out of bowl revenue. The Utah state AG was thinking/threatening to sue the BCS. President elect Obama again reiterated that CFB needs a play-off system on his last press conference. Stay tuned!
Posted by: Get it right fake Dave on Jan 10, 2009 at 09:48 AM
Actually, my only friend is my CAT!! I don't like dogs!!
Posted by: Dave Location: i'mtryingtobecoolville on Jan 10, 2009 at 08:40 AM
guys i am so sorry for my complete ignorance towards college football. if i knew anything about college football, i would come up with some valid points every now and then, but instead i throw out one liners just to make myself sound cool. my only friend is my dog, and i just like chatting with actual human beings. thank you for being my friends, love dave.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 9, 2009 at 08:31 PM
Barry, ALL of my comments are logical and have meaning.
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 9, 2009 at 08:00 PM
your whole post is pointless.1 sentence that somewhat made sense was "Back to CFB the AP poll # 8,9 and #10 were defeated by the USC Trojans. You can't argue with those style points". nice style points, but as i pointed out earlier, they were all home wins. beating the 6 and 7 team on the road, & beating the team that beat usc is a little bit better style points. however, i agree with your 8-team playoff idea, 16 teams would be 2 much. an easy way to implement the current bowl system into a playoff wuld be to take the top non-bcs bowls (capital 1 & cotton) and use them and 2 bcs bowls (sugar and fiesta) for the 1st round. use 2 more bcs bowls (orange and rose) for the 2nd round, and have the championship game at the site of the main bcs bowl that year (i.e. orange this year). they can keep their beloved bcs system to determine the top 8. no gripes then, if you cant make it in the top 8 in any formula,u dont deserve to b there. this also gives the non bcs teams a fair shot.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 9, 2009 at 07:42 PM
Dave: here is another term toward your quest to become proficient in English: non sequitur.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 9, 2009 at 07:16 PM
I don't know why ECU fans are complaining about the BCS. It's not like ECU will ever be in the BCS mix.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 9, 2009 at 06:23 PM
deadfish: make it a 16 team playoff and we have a deal! If it was only so easy. Alas, it is about money and the BCS schools do not want to break-up the cartel cash to divvy up amongst more schools. I've said it before, if you meet minimum qualifications for D1A, there should exist a level playing field. The NCAA sold the proverbial farm to the BCS long ago. At this point, it will take public pressure and threat of govermental action and/or litigation. I have no qualms with USC's resume this year. They would easily be one of the playoff participants and might very well show the nation that they are the best, ON THE FIELD. I appreciate that you see benefits of playoff. Take care.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 9, 2009 at 05:53 PM
Barry: Yes Sir, that is why we need at least an 8 team play-off system and these debates would be pointless non-existent. joepirate: I was stationed in SC for almost five years. Thank you for pointing out that the RB(Pasadena) is 10 miles N of LA. You also failed to mention that the RB is UCLA's home stadium, DUH? BTW Sacramento(50 Mi N of SF) is CA's state capital, UHM? Back to CFB the AP poll # 8,9 and #10 were defeated by the USC Trojans. You can't argue with those style points Mr. Barry, Sir. joepirate: CA is 3rd. largest state. Within CONUS CA has the highest and lowest point above and below sea level: Mt Whitney and Death Valley respectively! I'll be nice by leaving C-USA alone...
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 9, 2009 at 03:20 PM
Simple bottom line: do you think that the games should be decided on the field or in a beauty pagent voting contest? All college football fans should favor a decision on the field, like all other real sports, not speculated on and then voted upon like a dang synchronized swimming competition at the Olympics! Would an undefeated Utah beat Florida, USC, etc.? We'll never truly know because of the current flawed system. THAT is the point, the current flawed system allows for style & beauty points as opposed to points on a football field. deadfish, et.al. if the CFB "experts" were able to perfectly pre-determine winners in all the games, why play the games at all?! Football is a game of chance, and chance implies less than perfection in determining the victor on any given day. Play the game on the field!
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 9, 2009 at 01:40 PM
who really cares what mark may and lou holtz say. i bet they also said that alabama would beat utah easily.the reason colin cowherd has a raio and tv program is because he makes over the top statements that ignite controversy amongst people, and therefore viewership (see jim rome). "Furthermore to counter your point(s) according to the AP final poll ironically TX #4 and OK #5"-i think i'm missing something on that one. what points did you counter? as far as usc homes games...i believe the rose bowl is 10 miles from the usc campus, therefore its a home game. if ECU played a bowl game in winterville, it would be a home game. i will give you the pac-10 bowl record (impressive), but bowl games are not the end all of how good a conference really is. conference usa was 4-2 in bowl games, doesnt mean they are a better conference that the big-12. bowl games are about matchups, the pac-10 had some good matchups, and to their credit, took advantage of them.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM
joepirate: NOTED. If you state your point(s) the way you have just done you'll go a long way. You can blast and criticize without being ugly about it. BTW CFB experts have gone on record to say that USC defeats Utah. As a matter of fact Lou Holtz and Mark May both said that USC would beat OK, TX and FL. Mark May was asked about UT and he said UT is NOT part of discussion. ESPNU Colin Cowherd said CFB is SEC and USC then everybody else. Furthermore to counter your point(s) according to the AP final poll ironically TX #4 and OK #5! Finally you got very technical to define home games. USC plays at the LA Coliseum their [home] games. Don't forget that you bashed and blasted the PAC-10. The PAC-10 was the ONLY conference that had a perfect 5-0 BOWL record. Thank you
Posted by: Dave on Jan 9, 2009 at 09:43 AM
WHAT?? ECU wasn't in the final polls?? ECU fans take it from me, YOU WERE ROBBED!!!
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 9, 2009 at 08:41 AM
13-0, that means UNdefeated to the haters. blew out alabama, ran through the mountain west conference.at least split national champs. and to those who say "they don't play in a bcs conference". ask deadfish how good the mountain west conference is (see record against the pac10). and when you say that usc beats utah anywhere, you might be right. but the fact is that the bcs has forced us into these situations. the TRUE champion is no longer decided on the field, so we have to go by what happened in the regular season, and the bowl game. so here are some FACTS (these are from the AP poll, coaches poll not that much different).utah beat 4 top 25 teams, including the team that beat usc, usc beat 3 top 25 teams. utah beat the #6 and #7 teams on the road (sugar bowl is a home game for SEC). usc's 3 wins vs. top 25 teams came at home (rose bowl is a home game for usc). usc=1 loss, utah= 0 losses. take away the name of the school, and who would you vote as the national champs? I rest my case
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 9, 2009 at 06:34 AM
Mr. Barry: First ignore Dave's "southern allergy"! Secondly you say Utah I say USC! USC beats Utah anywhere! Add Oki as well! The coaches voted my Trojans número dos. That is number two in the Anglo neighborhood! AP voted UT #2 and USC #3. AP also voted Oregon #10, VT #15, OR ST #18 and WVU #23. Dave: Chill out man! PSU voted #8 by AP!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 9, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I think I did the same thing. After all, perplexed is a BIG word for you Southern folks.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 8, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Lol... Turns out, thus far, there are two teams whose defenses are standing up. 6:40 to go in 3rd. I still say, Utah is #1 unless proven otherwise...
Posted by: Dave on Jan 8, 2009 at 09:24 PM
Barry you have just perplexed over 80% of the people who post here.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 8, 2009 at 08:30 PM
A shill could not have said it better, Dave.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 8, 2009 at 07:35 PM
Florida and Oklahoma are going to have an offensive shootout tonight to crown the TRUE and ONLY National Champion!
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 8, 2009 at 05:41 PM
deadfish: I am well, I hope same for you. Thank you for the heads-up. I'll "put a bug in the ear" of someone in Ward Building. Dave: I accept your first sentence totally. Regarding the second sentence, I suspect that you know better, to a degree large or small.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 8, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Sorry Barry but I don't need to make up fake names to show my ignorance around here. Here, let me say it in my own words UTAH DOESN'T DESERVE ANYTHING!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 8, 2009 at 04:28 PM
Mr. Barry: How are you, Sir? Fine, I hope. I checked those two links and the reading was interesting. My second statement is a very serious one. If ECU is serious about a checking about a five star WR who is looking for an east coast school then you should tell your booster friends to pressure Mr. Skip Holtz to interview Vidal Hazelton. He is a great ALL around a great WR with a 4.4-4.5 speed and a terrific blocker. He's 6'3" 205. He's from the NY city area and attended the Hargrave Military in Chatham, VA(N of Danville) then the USC. WHY is he transferring? It is a long complicated story. I can only speculate therefore I have to stop there. Good luck to your Pirates.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 8, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Thanks for the "insight" Dave Nunya.
Posted by: nunya on Jan 7, 2009 at 06:35 PM
Utah Schmutah.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 7, 2009 at 04:46 PM
I encourage college football fans to read these two articles: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/06/AR2009010600092.html http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3815656
Posted by: Dave on Jan 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Michigan State, and Minnesota would all beat ECU by 2 TD's.
Posted by: Coach M Location: RMT on Jan 7, 2009 at 06:34 AM
LOL @ deadfish, USC was in the bowl they belonged in. ROFL @ dave, Big Tin (yes I know how I spelled it) is the worst of the big conferences, Big 10, SEC, Pac 10, Big 12 and ACC. Big East and CUSA, please, don't make me PMPLSH. LOLOLOL
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 7, 2009 at 04:43 AM
Dave: So would USC, thank you!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Utes Schmutes Oklahoma and Florida would beat the tar out of Utah.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Dave: The records you provided are true. There isn't anyone disputing them. Definitely you can NOT dispute the PAC-10 bowl record. I am saving the best for last which is USC smoked both OSU and your beloved PSU>END, IT, FINITO... Thank you
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:45 PM
Let me add- the reason that Jim Delaney, the Commissioner of the Big 10, opposes conference championship games, D1A playoffs, and revisions to the current BCS qualifying rules is that he knows that the Big 10 will suffer immeasurably against equal and qualified/legitimate competition. The ACC may qualify for this point as well. Carry on.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:31 PM
deadfish: Thanks for the thoughts, bud. My primary gripe too is w/ BCS leaders as they erroneously promote a phony system. Further, The B-10 is living on smoke & mirrors, ACC as well. Pac 10 is tough, although IMO things should be evened out w/ champ. games. All D1 teams that meet certain standards should qualify, IMHO. Obviously, my take is, by crook or hook (pun intended), ECU and worthy others should have BCS status. If I had a say (and I'll never have such!) I would propose 16 game playoff. Then, have 8 large bowls host playoffs, 4 biggest bowls rotate game for #1. Other bowls = remain (I am watching Tulsa beat Ball State now and enjoying it). This way, phony teams in historically favored conferences win or go home. As of now, BCS Bowl games are a farce and at the whim of specious etiology. My vote (again, worthless) is Utah is # 1. I could argue the Utes as legitimate national champion, with sound reason, for days, but will spare you the text.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:40 PM
Washington 0-12 Washington State 2-11 UCLA 4-8 and Stanford and AZ State both finishing 5-7!? WOW GREAT Conference...
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:38 PM
Have you guys forgotten about Washington who finished a perfect 0-12?
Posted by: Big t Location: greenville on Jan 6, 2009 at 04:42 PM
DF...agreed! The Pac 10 smoked everyone's camel and that is all there is to it. All of the conferences this year were pitiful with the exception of that one, and, I think, it was not as strong as it usually is.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Hi All: OFF topic as well! I shortened it. I can't say that as sexy and cool as Paula Dean does! On a serious note I am my worse critic and I also lead by example. That's the Marine sergeant in me. In my last post below I should have stated resulting with having injuries and violate(wrong tense). Mr. Barry: I agree with about 80% of your post bowls assessment. If you look back USC did NOT have cup cakes like FL, AL, PSU and OSU to name a few. joepirate talked trash blasting the PAC-10. The PAC-10 is the ONLY conference that finished 5-0 and undefeated and beat a superior opponent except for USC. Along those lines the PAC-10 has won MORE championships in college sports than any other conference. To be fair CBF goes in cycles. For a while USC couldn't go to a ding-dong bowl. Kentucky and Notre Dame both 6-6 should have NOT gone to bowl games. Simply put the tycoons of CFB are rewarding poor or incompetent performance. Suppose USC is 6-6 then to a bowl game would equal to WW III! Hello!
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Off topic: OSU played Texas very close tonight, granted. But, consider this indisputable fact: The Big 10 is 1-6 in bowl games this year. 1-6! In the past two years, ALL the Big 10 schools combined have beaten only two (2!) BCS bowl bound schools during the 2 seasons. For point of reference, ECU alone beat two such teams THIS year! (Note to the haters: I am NOT saying ECU is the best team out there; or even top 25 for that matter this year; using ECU for local reference comparison sake). Big 10 schools schedule cupcakes out of conference during season, and usually at home, to fatten up their record. Then, year after year, the Big 10 gets absolutely EXPOSED in bowl games. This is not an aberration, this is a yearly occurrence and an accurate representation of how down this league truly is. They may have been great 30-40 years ago, today the Big 10 is way overrated and suffering. Everybody outside of the midwest and northeast knows this too. Every year= exposed as pretenders.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:39 PM
Well said Rob!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:13 PM
Dave: Nasty SC critics have stated that their defensive players got arrogant and too relaxed. jack: USC best CB played the first two games and out with a cervical vertebral FX. Their best SS missed the last three games. Add their best TE and finally the best FB ignored the books and got himself ineligible for the Rose Bowl. The POINT is FB is a violent game resulting in having injuries. Every FB team has them HS, CFB and the NFL; take your pick! Are you convinced, Sir? I thought so! Despite the injuries and other problems USC might finish: SECOND! The BC/Jagodzinski saga: ESPN also reported that Jagodzinski has a contract clause barring him from contacting any NFL team within the first three years of his contract. If he interviews with NY Jets he'll definitely violates the clause therefore giving BC a legal reason to fire him b/c of breach of contract. A Boston Globe writer reiterated that OC Logan might not be the favorite replacement but rather DC Frank Spazziani. Stay tuned!
Posted by: Rob Location: NC on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:12 PM
ECU lost. Get over it.
Posted by: jack Location: pirates cove on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:43 PM
Kentucky beat ECU soundly? Did you even watch the game? UK only scored one offensive touchdown and ECU played without Q. Cotton, D. Lindsay, J. Bryant, J. Williams, and the most electric player around, Dwayne Harris. With a half dozen nationaly televised games this year, the exposure should a powerful recruiting tool. Rest easy Pirate Fans, we are just getting started!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Yeah Big T, the USC defense "let" PSU score.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:17 AM
BL: Care to add ACC along with CUSA and Big East? Did you forget BC is in the ACC?!!! The shoe fits adding ACC to your rant, there are more examples than the BC one too, may I add.
Posted by: Big T Location: greenville on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:41 AM
ECU clearly did not win the game. However, they did get hosed on the kentucky fumble return. But, kentucky got hosed on the first second half ecu return as the returners knee was clearly on the ground at the 1. We simply did not show up to play, too much revelling on Beale street I guess. My only issue with the whole game was the kentucky coach. He was bragging about how good his team played in the 2nd half. The entire game was a sleeper at best! ECU handed the game to the wildcats and they still barely took it. Everything about the entire game stank to high heaven. The coverage, the teams, and the officiating. It would have been as exciting had the game ended in a 2-0 score perpetrated by the long snapper snapping the punt out of the back of the endzone. Would have been fitting as well, game ends on a mistake as it was a comedy of errors. I'm glad season is over so we can get "healed up" and tackle the 09 season. One note: to dave; PSU pride didn't score 24, USC allowed it
Posted by: BL Location: Greenville on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:22 AM
VERYS SIMPLE.....an SEC team with a medicore record is far superior to any C-USA, or Big East program....the facts, Arkansas beat Tulsa ( at that time undefeated), Vandy beats BC, and Kentucky beats ECU....ECU would do bettes in the bowel subdivison w/ App State, Richmond, etc...
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:53 AM
Let me clarify the Boston College-Jagodzinski situation: ESPN reported that BC told Mr. J. that if interviews for the NY Jets HC job he would be fired and replaced with OC Mr. Steve Logan. I apologize for reporting incomplete information. I also apologize for posting an off the topic subject. Thanks, deadfish
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 09:19 PM
Attention ECU fans: It seems that Boston College is about to fire HC Jeff Jagodzinski. Tighten your britches ECU fans, the replacement?: OC: Steve Logan! ESPN just announced that on their news ticker while I was watching the HS FB game All America! Sorry about the off topic subject. Thanks
Posted by: Kathy Location: Washington on Jan 4, 2009 at 09:01 PM
Dave, I believe you might need a big ole hug!! I also have some frilly underwear, purple and gold. I'll let you decide which side to wear in the front. Too funny people.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 08:03 PM
Tune-in to the HS FB game on ESPN in HD: NOW!
Posted by: Predicto 5000 Location: NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 07:50 PM
Conference USA and the Big (chuckle) East should join together to form one conference. Conference winner gets a BCS bid. Separately, they are a joke!
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 4, 2009 at 07:46 PM
deadfish: Happy New Year. I appreciate the well-thought opinion on USC. So, it sounds like offense will carry 'em early, defense will be good and has talent to be better. 10 returning O- linemen can carry a team for a long time. I prefer to see what the hogmollies have up front too; often underrated in forecasts by most is O-line prowess. FWIW, ECU has a heckuva O-line returning as well. Have to replce S. Bryant who was great when in good health. Silver lining, as he (and others) sat out some due to injuries, depth was developed. I hope that you can get to an ECU game in 2009, I trust that you'll appreciate the brand of football played in DF Stadium. Dave: you know that I have never agreed with you nor your ECU hatred before. But I concur here, what flew by earlier should not occur.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 4, 2009 at 07:20 PM
I love living in Eastern North Carolina. As I drive through Beaufort, Craven,Pitt or up to Wake County, I always feel I'm among friends in the Pirate Nation when I see cars and trucks with ECU stickers on them. Win or lose, make no mistake about it, I'm a pirate!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 07:16 PM
Mr. Barry: Sir, how are you? You asked about my Trojans 2009 outlook, thanks! TEN of the starting OL return. Yes, that includes Mark Sánchez the terrific QB from the Mission Viejo Diablos HS in CA! The only loss is at WR and the Trojans are loaded at WR. The minus side if you want to call it that is on the DL. That includes of course a big talented LB corp. The replacement LB group is certainly capable and talented. The consolation here is that the best HS LB might commit to USC. You add the second best LB has already committed to USC. according to the experts USC will probably end with a top 5 recruiting class. The secondary loses two great DB's: CB & S. It will take at least 4 or 5 games for the new DL to gel. They will definitely be among the top five preseason favorites. Along those lines with some luck and further upsets on the remaining bowls USC might finish second. Theoretically a share of the NC is possible if AP voters favor USC. Yes, it IS a big IF! Have a good one, Sir!
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 4, 2009 at 06:48 PM
DK: I bleed purple blood, ain't missed a home game since '92. Kentucky beat us straight up, as much as I hate it. Pirate friend, we'll be pretty gang good in 2009, really. I'm not just whistlin' Dixie, we'll be tough. "Where It Is A First Down... PIRATES!"
Posted by: DK Location: Greenville on Jan 4, 2009 at 06:18 PM
ECU didnt get any calls that GAVE them a touchdown. If it had been your team that this happened to, you would be just as sore about it.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 4, 2009 at 06:15 PM
Yes, there were close calls. This Pirate fan thinks that the calls pretty much evened out at the end and had little to no impact on the fate of the game. Kentucky won, they have earned props. ECU will be back strong in 2009, haters be wary. deadfish: what is (too) early Trojan outlook in '09?
Posted by: Pirate Fan Location: Washington, NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 05:35 PM
PuddinHead, you sure you aren't a "Carolina Fan", b/c you sure sound like one. ECU got the better end of more than their share of calls, and were whipped soundly by Kentucky!!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 05:20 PM
PH: Despite being there PH: 1. A lot of calls went ECU's way, OK? I know your memory went all of a sudden conveniently! Do you have anymore memory jokes? 2. The cameras show close-up angles an views that you can't see period. That is WHY they have replays because NOT even the officials can't see them. That is an indisputable argument that you NOR anybody else will win>IT, FINITO! 3. Being there means you were at least 300 feet from the playing field. ADD the lights. BTW do you wear glasses? Were you drinking? 4. Baseless allegations and accusations cloud your better judgment to say the least. You sound like the Crying Juvenile that plays for TN and formerly for your Pirates. Coincidental events that plague the disappointed Pirate fans...
Posted by: David Location: NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 04:03 PM
There were several coaching mistakes made throughout the season and even more during this game. The guys on the field made alot of mistakes; missed tackles, fumbles, missed catches, and others. There were blown calls on the field, but the boys did not come to play ball. I would love to see a consistent season out of the Pirates. I don't know if cockiness lost the game or if they just did not care. Guess the seniors have nothing to lose and Skip could be looking at the Notre Dame position to hard. For the seniors good luck and thank you for 4 years of service. For the rest of the players and coaches who will be with us next year get to work!!!
Posted by: The Real Dave on Jan 4, 2009 at 03:21 PM
I love the way the WITN mods can post this stuff. Some jealous phony is pretending to be me and WITN is loving it despite the fact that this person is being very stereotypical and insulting.
Posted by: DAVE on Jan 4, 2009 at 01:25 PM
I also like to wear frilly undergarments which makes me nervous about being caught so I lash out for no reason with my very dry sense of humor.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Kentucky won the game fair and square and was the better team on both sides of the ball. Quit whining ECU faithful and move on.
Posted by: PuddinHead Location: Smfd NC on Jan 4, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Whoa just a minute. Kentucky "won" on a bad call on the winning return. Hard to beat that 12th Man on the field. Hw does it feel to crow on a technical win Kentucky? I was there and it sure looked like Kentucky brought the Ref on the UK bus. ECU did NOT play its best game but right now Kentucky can't call it a win with a straight face.
Posted by: DAVE on Jan 4, 2009 at 07:39 AM
I am truly sorry for acting childish on this site but it is because I have no friends because of my personality, or lack of one.I am also mad that I am still a virgin at 47 years old. Again, sorry!
Posted by: Jackson Location: Deep Run on Jan 3, 2009 at 10:28 PM
You can cry all you want. Point is down or not you've got to hold on to the ball, never would have been a question. We looked like a high school football team versus a mediocre college team.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 3, 2009 at 07:22 PM
Somebody else obviously used my name below, but I will admit that I did make up a couple of names up here. Some of you went for it though. Now that I have proved that some of you are suckers, I am going to go listen to my new Nick Bass Christmas CD.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 3, 2009 at 07:13 PM
I'm still waiting for Sam to show up. Poor ECU fans, they can't accept that their team isn't all that.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 3, 2009 at 06:03 PM
joepirate: The day I believe anything you say is the day I believe that my CORVETTE runs with tap water! For the record I am aware of that site which I check X's daily. Here is another one that will keep you informed on that subject: http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/index.html add latimes.com www.insidesocal.com/usc and www.dailynews.com/sports Most of the time I know where the fish are biting! I get emails daily from friends in Southern California keeping me well informed! A couple of days ago I said that if ECU loses the Liberty Bowl there would NOT be a swamp big enough for some Pirates fans to hide! Where is the brilliant accountant hiding? Stay tuned! PS: How many of you favor a CFB play-off system instead of the bowls? Thanks.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 3, 2009 at 04:15 PM
ECU has never been able to finish!! period
Posted by: Dave on Jan 3, 2009 at 04:01 PM
To all.. I am sorry for being so negative and deceptive. I have been making posts on this website through several different names in an attempt to create the illusion that I was not alone in my dislike for ECU. I sincerely apologize for my juvenile actions.
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:59 PM
deadfish...im not trying to rub in anything, honestly. i just came across this article, and i figured you would be interested. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/bush-usc-lake-2033250-sports-case
Posted by: Greg Location: Winterville on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I wish Skip Holtz would have went to Syracuse. He chose not to kick a field goal in the first half and his coaching in the second half was terrible.
Posted by: bubba Location: greenville on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:04 PM
typical ecu football it was another game we should have won.
Posted by: Mike Location: Washington on Jan 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM
ECU's OFFENSE SUCKS...END OF STORY.....
Posted by: DSG on Jan 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Imagine what would have happened if ECU had played a good team. Sorry about your luck Pirate Nation.
Posted by: Paying Parent on Jan 3, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Coaching lost that game. Shame it got such a big fat raise and still can't coach!
Posted by: jody Location: Greenville on Jan 3, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Ask Michigan about scheduling Appalachin State.
Posted by: Pirate Fan Location: Washington on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:54 AM
We simply got outplayed by an INFERIOR team, outcoached by a SMARTER coach, and received more than our fair share of questionable calls, so don't blame it on the refs. And oh yea, someone should send our guys to TACKLING school. Since when is it wrong to tackle the big guys low?
Posted by: Leigh Location: Martin County on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:53 AM
To: DAVE~ I thought you were moving back up north?!?! You obviously hate where you are so I are you still here?
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:27 AM
All-in-all, a pretty good year. Pirates: the program is headed in the right direction and that is why the haters are here. Do you really think anybody cared this much during the Thompson years? Dave: the next 7 months will be of the same duration as the next seven months for you (after the PSU loss), or anyone else for that matter. Also, ECU did beat a team that won a BCS game this year. The Pirates have great talent returning in 2009, stay tuned! Now, it's time to watch the rest of the bowl games, turn to the NFL, and await the Spring Game. "Where It Is A First Down... PIRATES!"
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 3, 2009 at 07:27 AM
DSG - I hate to tell you, but nothing about ECU is my world and I've lived here all my life.
Posted by: ZONAR Location: Somewhere Out There on Jan 3, 2009 at 06:43 AM
ALL OF YOU, Get a life!!
Posted by: Ank Location: Greenville on Jan 3, 2009 at 04:31 AM
LOL at all you disappointed ECU fans. I bask in your misery.
Posted by: Robert Location: Greenville on Jan 3, 2009 at 03:32 AM
When Ventrell Jenkins was running for the touchdown he grabbed the facemask of the ECU player. His mouth piece even came out. That touchdown should not have counted. Lets write to the NCAA and to the ECU Athletic dept. If enough people stand up and express their concerns there is no telling what may happen. We actually have nothing to lose. Lets show that we do not tolerate unfair play. You can get all of the information and contacts from the ncaa website and ecu website. Lets stick together Pirate Nation! Be tough!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:24 AM
All bashing and everything else aside ECU fans I know how you guys feel. Back in 2005 losing to TX/Mack Brown for the NC, then losing to Stanford and again to Oregon St b/c of a penalty/tipped pass cost USC a chance at the NC. Like I said I know what bitterness taste like. We both have the next season to look forward to and hang-in there Pirate fans. It has been a lot of fun to communicate with some of you that are true sports persons and for that I am grateful. deadfish
Posted by: Stephanie Location: Memphis on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:09 AM
I am in Memphis for the game and although the kitty cats won...the PARTYING PIRATES are going strong on BEALE STREET BABY, while the kitty cat fans are taking their Geritol and hitting the bed! GO PIRATES!
Posted by: Robert Location: Greenville on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:55 AM
Better record and bowl than the triangle schools. I'm proud! Lets support the basketball and baseball teams!!
Posted by: ~ALPHA female~ Location: O84P on Jan 2, 2009 at 11:16 PM
It is obvious who is head dog on this site!
Posted by: Silly Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I bet you ECU haters are the same kids that said "my dad can beat your dad" when you were kids. Thats exactly what you sound like.
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 11:06 PM
i am so proud of my pirates...even though it hurts that we lost this game, nobody can say they didnt leave everything on the field. not that it would have made a difference, but the kentucky d-lineman was down after recovering the fumble. it was pretty obvious. that said, kentucky won the game fair and square. here is to another succesful football season next year! we're the loyal and bold, we're the purple and gold! we are the pirates of ECU HEY!
Posted by: Predictor 5k Location: Here on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:43 PM
SEC!!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:37 PM
I'm enjoying all these ECU fans playing the crying game.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Mr. Bill: Do you remember when I bashed SH? I said he wasn't ready to coach prime time programs whenever a few Pirate fans hinted him as next ND HC. I got bashed back b/c of it, that's cool! Sir, you have vindicated me, thank you. A lot of you ECU fans have mentioned poor game management on Mr. Holtz part ad I agree 100%. I watched the whole game. Thank you
Posted by: DK Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:01 PM
I think having full grasp of the football is being in possession of it. It was clear that he had control of the ball when his knee was on the ground. And whats with all the new handles up here bashing ECU. We know its just the same two people.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:45 PM
This proves that there is no god.
Posted by: DSG on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:39 PM
But Cactus ECU football is the world in Eastern North Carolina.
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:35 PM
Correction, meant to say "don't act like you didn't know that". Or maybe I did say it. I don't know, LOL.
Posted by: bandanaman247 Location: Pamlico Beach on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:33 PM
The SAMETHING that makes you LAUGH!! WILL make you CRY!!!!GO WILDCATS!!! I Love it :)
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:31 PM
Dave, they scheduled App State b/c NC State backed out of next year's game, which I'm sure you heard and read all the coverage on, and the App State game was a suitable replacement b/c many fans on both sides have wanted to see that match up. Please don't act like you didn't know that.
Posted by: Cactus Location: Strabane on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:11 PM
It's only a ball game, not the end of the world.
Posted by: DK Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:10 PM
If losing to a big time conference team by 6 points that was a bad call by the officials isnt hangin with a big time conference i dont know what it. UK could just as easily lose to ECU if the played tomorrow. this was no blow out
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:05 PM
DK: A lot more calls went the ECU way, OK? The TD run was [THOUGH ROUGHLY] reviewed by the experts with HD TV monitors. The replay(s) [CLEARLY] showed the KY player did NOT have ball possession when his knee was [DOWN], IT... PS: Give the "Crying Juvenile" his badly needed English lessons, SAD...
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:05 PM
Skip should have left ECU because nobody will want him now after he let his team down.
Posted by: DAVE on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:56 PM
That just goes to prove that ECU can't hang with a big time conference. I guess that is why they scheduled Appy State instead of NC State next season. It's going to be a bitter 7 months in Eastern NC! I'm LOVIN' IT!!!
Posted by: J DOG Location: Pirate on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:55 PM
The Pirates had a good year...if not for injuries and boneheads (suspened players) would have been really special. As is good year, proud to be a Pirate. I think we are the better team, however, the offense could not get any momentum in the 2nd half.
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:53 PM
Yeah, Disgruntled, I don't know what was up with all that. Going for it on 4th and 10 left us scratching our heads. It was cool they were trying some different things...at first..but at that point? We're listening to the 5th qtr call in show right now b/c we're interested to see what fans are saying...my husband is threatening to call in and say what HE thinks, which at the moment would not be good, lol.
Posted by: DK Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:52 PM
I wouldnt call it crying about the officials but the DID give the game away. The guy was clearly down when he picked the ball up. Yeah there will be bad calls, but when a bad call determines the outcome of the game, that is sad. Congratulations Dave, you can sleep tonight. Even a busted watch can be right sometimes.
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:43 PM
Dave, I can't even be mad at you right now, because I'm more disappointed in my team. With all of the problems we've had this season, and winning the conference championship, winning the bowl would have been the icing on the cake. But, we have to settle for 9-5, which is still better than last year. Oh well. Better luck next year. Going to have myself a STIFF drink now.
Posted by: DK Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:40 PM
If ECU had won. You haters would still be up here trying to take it away. Just face it. You haters are just small fish in a big barrel of Pirate fans and it drives you nuts that they won a championship. You cant take it away and you are going crazy because of it. The real losers here are the haters and bashers.
Posted by: Disgruntled Location: Plymouth on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:40 PM
I know I'm bitter, along with everyone else, but did anyone else think that the strategy tonight went against much of what we have been doing all year long? How many runs outside of the tackles? How many shots down the field to loosen up that "SEC Speed"? I saw a group of Pirates every bit as talented as Kentucky, but were simply not prepared for the man-on-man defense. Speaking of defense, thank goodness for ours or this could have been much worse. P.S. What's up with not kicking the FG with 35 /- secs left in the first half....Not that it mattered, just gave me flashbacks to the NC State game, you know that whole not putting points on the board when you have the chance thing. Skip is great, and he and Mack are the reason I follow ECU sports. But game management in big games.....CUSA Championship withstanding....needs some work.
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:36 PM
We choked, big time. We went from a 13 point lead in the 1st half, to letting UK steal it from us. I'm so mad right now, I'm shaking. But I'm woman enough to come here and admit defeat.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:36 PM
UK, KU whatever 25 ECU 19> THE END. Where is ALL that BCS talk Pirate fans? You got hit in the MOUTH by a 6-6 TEAM, HELLO? Rest my case...
Posted by: AnotherYearofSkip Location: G-vegas on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:35 PM
Well, guess this loss seals the deal that Skip will be at ECU another year. Don't guess too many places will be courting him after this. Why even talk to Syracuse and take the spotlight off the team!
Posted by: ECUSux on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:34 PM
CONGRATS KENTUCKY! The only bad thing now is that the Pirate fans are going to cry about the officials.
Posted by: DK Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:33 PM
I dont know what you haters are so happy about. ECU was clearly screwed by that last fumble recovery that was ruled a TD. If you dont think that game was given to UK, you are blind. ECU won that game.
Posted by: DAVE on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:32 PM
Kentucky is the Liberty Bowl Champions!! CONGRATULATIONS WILDCATS!!! NAH NAH TO YOU ECU FANS!!!! HA HA HA HAAAAAAAA!!! WOO HOO!!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:22 PM
The game referee belongs to a rocking chair and [DEFINITELY] needs an EYE exam. He doesn't have any business officiating, [PERIOD]...
Posted by: Josh Location: Plymouth on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:16 PM
Poor offensive effort,even poorer play calling. With 3:02 to go, ECU has been totally outcoached.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:15 PM
TOUCHDOWN KENTUCKY!!! AMEN!!! HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAA!!!!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:47 PM
I saw that too df. Crying Juvenile needs some speech therapy and needs it immediately! 19-19 GO UK!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:45 PM
????: Score: ECU 19-UK 19; you tell me. Note: [QUESTIONABLE OFFICIATING] The referee has convenient blindness or what is his problem. On the current drive the KO return the ECU player has his knee clearly on their ONE yard line marker. They allow him to advance the ball, go figure. The game announcers agree with me. Furthermore the replay definitely contradicts the "honorable" referee...
Posted by: ???? on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:27 PM
6-6 teams dont belong in bowl games
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:21 PM
I am watching the game, thank you. ESPN Todd Harris interviewed the "Crying Juvenile" aka Chris Johnson. I have the following observations about that interview: 1. Mr. CJ is the least recommended "interviewee"! 2. I wonder what his grades were. 3. Mr. CJ is way far from articulate. Some of you ECU fans watched the Rose Bowl and hopefully you listened to both PSU and USC players. ALL I have to say is that they sound a lot better than Mr. Chris Johnson. In fact next time you ECU fans watch a Titans game please listen to LenDale White. Hint: LenDale White attended USC. That's ALL. Score: 16 points TIE!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:09 PM
16-16 Pierat fans. Somebody needs to tell Skippy that they play 2 halves in football.
Posted by: ECU HATER on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:01 PM
ECU is weak!! Kentucky will control the second half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ECULover Location: Va on Jan 2, 2009 at 06:33 PM
The haters are always louder than the lovers as they aren't watching the game. We'll see what Kentucky does 2nd half or ECU will make history!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 05:11 PM
Mr. T: Thanks, man! #58 is Rey Maualuga arguably CFB best LB. He won this year's the Bednarik award-CFB-best defensive player. He has been compared to another former Trojan #55: Junior Seau. Have you heard of him(!)? #47 is Clay Matthews, Jr. who is the son of another great former Trojan LB CMSR. He has two other brothers Casey who also plays LB for Oregon and the baby of the family who plays for ND. Their uncle Bruce Matthews another former Trojan OL is in the NFL HOF. Do they have FB genes or what? Back to #47 Clay Matthews Jr. would you believe he made the team as a walk-on? You also forgot #2: the FS Taylor Mays: 6'3" or 6'4"/235# and a 4.28 40 speed! This big guy is the fastest on the USC team! He hits like a LB and is a projected first rounder! One more Trojan "thing" OJS will always be my favorite Trojan but I tell you what Mark Sánchez is very close second and as you saw he's a terrific QB from the same HS in Mission Viejo,CA-Carlson Palmer! Happy NY & good luck to your Pirates
Posted by: Dave on Jan 2, 2009 at 04:40 PM
I think it is funny that there are more ECU bashers than lovers making comments on here.
Posted by: kjfecu Location: Swansboro on Jan 2, 2009 at 04:30 PM
Posted by: ECUSux on Jan 1, 2009 at 09:26 PM I am from Florida and proudly graduated a Gator in 2003.' Hey NO one is from Florida... you all are Snow Birds... Hey from fla... where is the son... shine... son...
Posted by: kjfecu Location: swansboro on Jan 2, 2009 at 04:26 PM
Rigth or wrong... love em or hate em... we are the Pirate Nation and I hope we beat K.... score 31 us 28 them ps I gots a gooe eDucamtaion at ECu... for real did get a great education and Loved Umstead Hall grad 2003
Posted by: The Man on Jan 2, 2009 at 04:23 PM
Kentucky 38 EZU 3
Posted by: Vick on Jan 2, 2009 at 04:19 PM
Lavon I agree 100%! That is sad that ECU is only playing a 6-6 team.
Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Jan 2, 2009 at 04:02 PM
I mean seriously dude, watching ECU play football is the equilavent of watching a high school football game.
Posted by: Dogma on Jan 2, 2009 at 03:37 PM
Ho-Hum!
Posted by: Hector the Projector on Jan 2, 2009 at 03:36 PM
Kentucky 24 ECU 10
Posted by: Blake S. Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 03:34 PM
Just wanted to reiterate this from earlier..... ECU 31-UK 13
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Jan 2, 2009 at 03:22 PM
ECUSux, there are obnoxious fans everywhere. And not every ECU fan thinks that our team can beat any and everyone. I suspect that the fans that you hate, are the ones that hop on the bandwagon when ECU is doing well. Those that were proclaiming "BCS busters" at the top of their lungs at the beginning of the season when we beat WVU and Va Tech, and talked a lot of smack, only to jump off the wagon a few weeks later when we lost 3 straight. Now those fans, I agree with you, are annoying and I would prefer them not cheer for ECU if it's on a conditional basis. And furthermore, I or any true Pirate fan, resents being lumped in with said people. So, if you don't like ECU, fine, everyone has their favorite team and everyone has a team or teams they love to hate (I love to hate NC State), but please sir, do NOT make such sweeping generalizations about Pirate fans. Thanks.
Posted by: bleed purple Location: 5th st. greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 02:39 PM
This is about Pirate Support.....if you don't support and believe 100%..than too bad. GO PIRATES!!! Beat UK!!
Posted by: Predictor 5000 Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 02:36 PM
Kentucky 38 East Carolina 17
Posted by: Pirate Fan Location: Greenville, NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 02:23 PM
GO ECU GO PIRATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Blake S. Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 02:19 PM
No need to worry there becaus I don't forsee that happeneing. Just my thoughts and my studies from what I've seen from BOTH schools this year. Also, that's no argument for saying ECU sucks. Try again.
Posted by: Lavon on Jan 2, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Blake come back once ECU gets whipped.
Posted by: Blake S. Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Obviously there are plenty of people here and apparently from all around that are not very knowledgable when it comes to college sports. GO ECU!!! BTW Lavon: They WON last year, Boise St at that. Oh and basketball this year, we have the number one assist man in the nation with a stacked young squad. LOOK OUT! Then there's the always good baseball team and "that's all I have to say about that...".
Posted by: BLAKE S. Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM
This is actually rather sad. A bunch of arguing over the COMPUTER. Seems that it's gettign quite a bit accomplisehd, ha right! Come on if you don't like ECU you don't like them but no need for all the bashing and attacks. If you do like ECU just pull for them with no worries. They're a great ball team with MUCH potential. Give them a couple more years with the proper recruits and coaching, they'll be right up there in the mix with the big boys. Take Ball St., they're a great ball team. Who do they play? But would anyone want to just go in and take them lightly?!!? NOPE I think not. Same applies to ECU. They're a scary ball team to play, watch, and support at times but THIS IS PIRATE COUNTRY! ECU 31..UK 13.
Posted by: Trent on Jan 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Since everybody is bashing ECU let me join the party and scream GO KENTUCKY WILDCATS!!
Posted by: ECUAllie Location: Greenville, NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Why are people bashing the Pirates!? What has ECU done to make two specific people hate them so much. Support our local college football team who has brought a lot of attention, not to mention money, to this area. They have come so far in the past few years, and we should support them, win or lose.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:12 AM
ECUSux: I have been reading this blog a long time. I NEVER recall an ECU fan stating ECU could beat anybody. That is hyperbole, and you know it. What you see is ECU fans, being fans, and pulling for their team. Same as fans anywhere. You, like Dave, enjoy being a person that hates the local team for your own emotional/personal reasons. Perhaps you two should get together and form a 12-step support group- P.A. (Pirates Anonymous), as your obsession with disliking the Pirates appears all consuming and unhealthy, as evidenced by your postings here. Go PIRATES!!!!
Posted by: Lavon Location: Kinston on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:19 AM
ECU is going to lose just like they have lost every season. Lol!! ECU needs to scrap their sport programs period!
Posted by: big T Location: greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:53 AM
I think ECU will beat Kentucky but I believe it will be close. And DF, congrats on the win, man that was hard. I knew a week ago you'd be happy today. I like PSU but the reason their D was so highly ranked was a result of the useless opponents they faced. They had only 2 or 3 difficult games on their schedule. Sanchez chewed them up as did the d-back and linebacker corps. PSU's offensive line didn't even show up. I am not familiar with the USC players because I despise USC, but, that Samoan #58 and the kid with the long blonde hair #47 were relentless. If Oklahoma beats Florida there may be a split NC. I'd like to see the winner of that game and USC play. Call it college super bowl. Play it in Detroit, that way there would have been one exciting game there in "08. No wait, its '09 already...my bad.
Posted by: DK Location: Greenville on Jan 2, 2009 at 08:17 AM
Why dont you make your name ECUFansSuck instead of ECUSux if its the fans you hate. Whether you hate ECU or not they are still a championship team no matter what conference they are in and you cant do anything about it. I dont believe that the first ECU fan thinks that the Pirates can beat anybody. Its like you are making up reasons to be mad that the Pirates are champs.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:07 AM
Barry, Bill and Dave thanks for the sportsmanlike wishes. joepirate: PSU has/had the third best defense in the nation. Instead of bashing the PSU secondary why didn't you give credit to USC's QB Mark Sánchez and the talented receivers. In fact one of PSU's DB said that a [4'10" could catch Mark Sanchez passes]. BTW I will NOT dignify your other unpleasant comments. Good day!
Posted by: ECUSux on Jan 1, 2009 at 10:51 PM
My name is ECUSux because I dislike obnoxious ECU fans who think that ECU can beat anybody.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 1, 2009 at 10:50 PM
joepirate we will see what you have to say after your Liberty Bowl bashing tomorrow. As for PSU, you and I know that USC is in a league of their own. Heck, I bet USC could beat the Detroit Lions.
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 09:45 PM
dont say anything until ecu beats a marquee opponent dave?? how bout the acc champions. and that 14 point margin was no indication of the complete whoopin penn st received...can they even cover a wide receiver?
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 09:43 PM
ECUSux: Thank you for your response, I accept it. Indulge me with a couple more questions, please. Why does your screen name not reflect this? The way it stands now, it appears your primary interest is in hating the Pirates vs. backing your boys who play for the MNC soon. You may have more in common with Davey boy than you surmise. Are you an ECU grad student too, like our friend Dave? A friendly suggestion: ECU is a good team, local, with great fans, why not back ECU secondary to the Gators? "Where It Is a First Down... PIRATES!"
Posted by: ECUSux on Jan 1, 2009 at 09:26 PM
I am from Florida and proudly graduated a Gator in 2003.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 09:14 PM
OK ECUSux: Why Florida?
Posted by: ECUSux on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:55 PM
I am not Dave and I am a Gators fan so try and talk smack to me Barry.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:51 PM
deadfish: Congratulations! Your boys looked real good.
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:43 PM
Congrats, deadfish. The Trojans are impressive. Go Pirates tomorrow!!
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:33 PM
ECUsux: 1. I never said that CUSA is better than Big 10, please re-read. 2. ECU would certainly beat some teams in the Big 10. 3. Your last sentence is funny and redundant considering your oh-so clever name on this blog. 4. Who is your team? 5. I thought that you were Dave. Considering that Dave has self-concept issues, I am still not convinced that you may not be him!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:32 PM
Penn State at least made it somewhat close at the end. I commend them for not giving up and for showing Penn State pride.
Posted by: ECUSux on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:28 PM
Barry ECU stinks and I pray to God that Kentucky beats the daylights out of them.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:25 PM
38-24 isn't too shabby PLUS, ECU would get blasted 77-0 by USC. SO until your team proves that they are worth anything you can't say much to me.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:12 PM
Dave: I never said ANY of that, please refrain from placing words in my mouth. Care to come up with a better refutation or are you too engrossed in the great game being played over on ABC? Nail-biter ain't it?
Posted by: ECUsux on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:09 PM
Barry the Big 10 is much better than the weak CUSA. ECU wouldn't beat one team in the Big 10. I am starting to hate ECU more than Dave.
Posted by: Dave on Jan 1, 2009 at 08:01 PM
Barry thank you so much for your great wisdom and superior knowledge when it comes to college football. CUSA is the best conference in Division 1 football and ECU should be playing Florida for the National Title.
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 07:41 PM
Dave: Are you calling the Big 10 "marquee"? Really? Thank goodness for Spurrier and his train wreck at So. Carolina, huh? This is why the Big 10 is so dead set against a DI college football playoff, they would be FURTHER exposed every year. The Big 10 is the worst of the BCS conferences and its fading history is all that protects it from further derision, surely not the results on the field. Penn State would lose 4 games in the SEC. Now, all that you have left after this terrible P(s)U "performance" is your old calling card, pathologically attack ECU to serve some characterological deficit. This is hysterical! By the way, per your "marquee" comment, ECU beat the ACC champion THIS year. Even the over-rated ACC is superior to the phony Big 10. Repeat after me: "exposed"; LOL!!!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 1, 2009 at 07:01 PM
Congrats deadfish, USC is the BEST team in the country bar none. As for you ECU fans, I don't need to hear it from you until ECU beats Penn State or any other marquee opponent.
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 04:12 PM
Mr. deadfish, I should have attached a wink to my previous post. I wasn't clear with my tongue-in-cheek question of your more than clear USC ties. I will be pulling for the Trojans as well. I picked them in our "entertainment only" bowl pool!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 1, 2009 at 03:51 PM
Mr. Bill: Happy New Year, Sir! I bragged about you and you let me down! Yes, I am [an] USC Trojans huge fan! That includes OJS. I also appreciate your sportsmanship by wishing me good luck! We have our disagreements but we believe in good sportsmanship, too! Pirate fans I hate to tell you but you need to check the following link: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/31/chris-johnson-calls-rookie-of-the-year-voting-bogus Feedback please, thank you. Enjoy your TV watching and I catch you later guys! Thanks!
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 03:27 PM
lol...way to go deadfish. i like how you try to make friends thinking that all those people really care that much, or as you put it, "take pride in" how they write on the comments page of witn. then you decide to take on the moderator on witn.com. wow is the only word for that. youve (notice no apostrophe) lost it.
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 03:00 PM
deadfish, Happy New Year indeed!! Well said and good luck in the Grandaddy of them all! (You are a USC fan correct?)
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Jan 1, 2009 at 02:54 PM
Editor: Medical terms as ugly as they may sound are NOT vulgar. That is WHY I won that argument! Thank you! I love that cynical and sarcastic part of the English language. joepirate: Barry, Bill, Dave, The Pirate Lady and myself we take pride in how we write on this blog. We write like former college students or like a college student should write. jp: "this is the comments section of the witn.com website and not english class". Number one where is the preposition an before English? Notice that I capped the letter E-English! Dave: I wasn't on your case about your typo; personally I love the flavor! joepirate and the brilliant accountant: I have NOT made a single CFB comment that I could or did NOT back-up. You two blood brothers can NOT say the same. Don't forget to watch the GRAND ONE: The Rose Bowl! Happy New Year everybody! PS: jp my spelling checker "begs" me to change joepirate to "corporate"!
Posted by: Dave on Jan 1, 2009 at 01:19 PM
deadfish yeah I meant joepirate but typos happen. GOOD LUCK to USC today and may the best team win!!
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 01:10 PM
to EC: i agree with what you are saying, but sometimes it is fun to rip on people who think they know everything. and that brings me to dave and deadfish...deadfish, i hope you realize that this is the comments section of the witn.com website and not english class. are you gonna rip me for not capitalizing the first word of each sentence? come on dude...and dave when did you predict psu vs. usc, after psu beat ohio st.? i'll give you the panthers giants prediction, but wake beating ecu?? come on dude. i predict that the detroit lions won't make the playoffs this year....
Posted by: To Deadfish Location: WITN Moderator on Jan 1, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Your post didn't make it because our filter doesn't like the word "feces". I found it and approved it. But it's also real close to the line as far as our rules about not calling out others. Remember to "play nice". Thanks and Happy New Year.
Posted by: EC Location: Sanford NC on Jan 1, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Ever noticed how much time we spend dealing with idiots from other states and teams? It's a plan that the non-ECU folk put into effect when their side is doing worse...they start negative messages in an attempt to generate garbage on our blog sites. Come on Pirate Nation...Ignore them. Let's concentrate on positive ECU discussions and just ignore the outsiders!! If they type a dumb message...don't waste any words responding. They will get bored and just go away. As long as we take time to answer their tripe, we get away from the real message...I don't care what the outsiders have to say... I only care that our guys had a great year and I am proud to be a Pirate... Go Pirates!!!
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Dave: Let me add one, OK? You also predicted that you would leave this blog after another erroneous prognostication. You were wrong on this one too. You see, your baiting of Pirate fans has psychological roots. You going back on your own word is obvious manisfestation of emotional turmoil. You tried for awhile and did not post, but the inner demons eventually became too much to endure and you succumbed to the yearning, despite the fact that in doing so you fully knew it would make you a falsifier. Again I ask you Dave, what subconscious need does this all serve? It is obvious. I am not a psychiatrist, but perhaps should have pursued this specialty at Brody in order to assist you, my prized friend.
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 12:29 PM
"Downer Dave" gives us "one for the road". This mean you are leaving?? We all hope so.
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Jan 1, 2009 at 02:09 AM
Go Pirates!! Win or lose, great season!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 31, 2008 at 11:33 PM
WITN editor/moderator/whatever/ECU biased: After 2100(9:00 PM for those who can't read a 24 hour clock) I posted a thread. What happened to it? Do I need to change my name to Pirate face, William the baby sitter, brilliant accountant, the southern slick or whatever? Thank you
Posted by: KYFanatic on Dec 31, 2008 at 09:16 PM
Come on WILDCATS!! ROAR!!!!!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 31, 2008 at 08:59 PM
Mr. Bill: Do you have enough pampers and lollipops in your nursery? Your blind loyalty and splendid lawyering is quite remarkable. Is it lawyering or baby sitting(!)? There is a huge difference between the 3.91 GPA accountant, you and me. I admit my mistakes. I also explained my mistake. Speaking of mistakes check: witn.com/sports/headlines/36784334.html 1227. On that thread the brilliant accountant flashed his eloquent English grammar: "then ECU would of won". Doesn't sound correct to say then ECU would have won? Do you dig what I'm saying? Don't you love that phrase(!)? I back-up my statements when I talk about CFB. As far as I am concerned the accountant doesn't know feces about CFB. Dave: Did you mean joepirate? I like "joepiate" though whatever that is! I hope your score is right b/c there isn't a swamp big enough for these pundits to hide! Here is another win for the PAC-10. #24 Oregon ST 3 #18 Pitt zero! Tomorrow is the grand ONE the Rose Bowl PSU VS USC in beautiful SC CA!
Posted by: ECUsux on Dec 31, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Go Kentucky!
Posted by: Dave on Dec 31, 2008 at 06:31 PM
Well joepiate, I predicted that PSU and USC would play in the Rose Bowl, the Giants would beat the Panthers, and that Wake would crush ECU and I WAS CORRECT!! Who cares, if I'm wrong once in a while. Even the great ones are wrong at times. Here is one for the road Kentucky 20 ECU 10.
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:10 PM
deadfish.. Not giving a pass to anyone. You were guilty of the very thing you were slamming the previous poster of. Why the venom? Can you not have a light discussion without belittling the poster for grammar? None of his posts were dripping wet with the condescension you displayed. Do your arguments have enough merit to counter his position without attacking him on a personal level?
Posted by: Why on Dec 31, 2008 at 12:58 PM
ECU is dreadful when it comes to academics and terrrible in sports. I'd be ashamed to call myself a Pirate.
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Dec 31, 2008 at 09:48 AM
Sam, I agree; we were way too cocky with State. I think there is a big difference in the team from the beginning of the season to now. I think the team has grown up, the BCS blinders were taken off (which I never bought into, btw) and I think we've eliminated all of the issues that were plaguing the team with a heavy dose of discipline and "Come to Jesus" meetings. As long as the team keeps their focus and remembers it's about the TEAM, and not individual players, then we'll be okay. P.S. Did anyone watch ESPN Classic last night? They aired the '92 Peach Bowl. It was my first time seeing it, as I was only in 9th grade at the time, and not as into football as I am now! It was an awesome game!
Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Dec 31, 2008 at 09:41 AM
I am an accounting major that is in graduate school at ECU, planning to go for my CPA license. Also, ECU has had the highest passing rate for the CPA exam for the last ten years at least. The standards have been much higher over the last few years at ECU, and will have to get even higher because of several more people that keep wanting to go to ECU, And by the way you are running your mouth at someone who had a 3.9 GPA and a 1340 SAT score so I would just hush if I were you. I also could care less about what words I use, because this is a discussion board about football, not a 30 page paper FYI. How can you despise ignorance when you are the one that acts so ignorant? Oh wait, you must despise it b/c you know that you have some ignorance about you. As for you Dave, you will not have anything to ENJOY after the bell comes to Greenville. Watch that be the case on January 2nd. I will go ahead and call it 34-17 pirates.
Posted by: joepirate Location: greenville on Dec 31, 2008 at 09:05 AM
there goes dave with his predictions again. shall we go back and see how your last 10 predictions turned out?? steelers beating the titans right? ecu going 7-5 right? ecu getting stomped by tulsa right?....i guess if you make enough predictions, you're bound to be right once. here's my prediction. ECU plays with passion and intensity like they always do, and the best team will win. i think the best team is ECU, but kentucky is a stout opponent from the best conference in america, so it will be a tough game. GO PIRATES!!!!
Posted by: Coach M Location: Rocky Mount on Dec 31, 2008 at 06:28 AM
I guess when you are discussing the football prowless of ECU, the best thing to do is to turn it into a education bash. That way, you have something interesting to discuss......Hold on ECWho fans, just kidding. I do , however thank that ECU does not go affer the BIG games they shoold if trying to estabolish that they are a FBS contendier. And, yes the smelling was on porpuse...LOL
Posted by: $$$ Location: nc on Dec 31, 2008 at 06:20 AM
E C WHO??? ROFLMBO
Posted by: Kenny Location: Winterville on Dec 31, 2008 at 02:30 AM
HAHA! deadfish don't read so good do he?? Slamming somebody for grammar on a comments page...please!! Bill, he had more than just that wrong in his post.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 31, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Mr. Bill: Touché, a plus for you and a minus for me, should I say a minor one? Sir, your point is well taken and I should have displayed my grammar knowledge by clearly differentiating between a subject and an object in a sentence, thank you. At least I did NOT give a pass to someone [WHO] stated: "BYU should of not". That's cool in your eyes or should I say convenient blindness? Just to keep it in the "south" right Bill? Or Bill should I state what's said in the " south stays in the south"... Like they say in America that's the way the cookie crumbles... That is why different standards identify with prejudice... I also wonder how ECU fans would react if they have a Latin player on their FB team roster. That is coming sooner rather than later. Finally one more win for the PAC-10. (#17)Oregon 42 OK ST(#13)31 Stay tuned!
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Dec 30, 2008 at 11:07 PM
deadfish, a person is a "who" not a "that". Somebody with UNquestionable grammar knowledge should know that.
Posted by: Dave on Dec 30, 2008 at 06:30 PM
Sorry Sam but those votes will be GONE once KY beats ECU.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 30, 2008 at 06:26 PM
I despise ignorance. I also hate loud unfounded rhetoric. Add to that a person that can't spell apparently. That same person has a very questionable grammar knowledge. If you read this barbaric phrase: "BYU should of not". I learned correctly to state: "BYU should have not"... For the record I was NOT an English major. Those who are or were will agree with me. Concerning CFB I will NOT bother to dignify anymore ignorant baseless biased comments. Thank you
Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Dec 30, 2008 at 04:22 PM
Deadfish, erase Cal, Arizona, Arizona St., and Oregon St. from that list. ECU can beat those teams at least half of the times. BYU should of not even been in the Top 25 and the Cal win over Miami is nothing. ECU would have no problem beating Miami, even in Miami. To the people that said tries to make every case to say that ECU is not the best team in NC, look at the polls, especially the AP poll, and yes that includes you Dave. This will solidify that Robert's and my statements are true. Nobody else in the state has any votes other than the pirates.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Sam: History is part of our lives. Learn some CFB and maybe then you will be qualified to argue on this forum. I back up my CFB knowledge with facts. Academically ECU is NOT anywhere near close to the rest of the NC schools. Add to that list the PAC-10 and the Big-10 schools. BTW Florida and Oklahoma are NOT as academically high as USC(#25); check: http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-counsellor-rank Sam did you go to college? What was your major? I hate to guess on both accounts... Thank you
Posted by: Dave on Dec 30, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I am going to ENJOY bashing you Pirate fans once the Wildcats bring the Bell to KENTUCKY!!
Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Dec 30, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Deadfish, also, that Alabama vs. SoCal, when somebody like me was not born at that time, I know that is ancient history. In the meantime, LETS GO PIRATES AND DESTROY THE WILDCATS! ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Dec 30, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Deadfish, take Arizona, Arizona ST, Oregon ST, and Cal off that list. Not only ECU would give them a hard time (look at how they have forced turnovers on such high powered offenses all season), but they would beat them most of the time. I will give you your west coast school (Trojans) credit, but Cal over Miami is nothing special. Miami is not any good at all and ECU would beat them with no problem. TPL, I will say, you are right about the pirates do not need to underestimate Kentucky like they did State. They got way too cocky before they went to Raleigh to play State, and acted like they could just show up and win. I will say seven or eight times out of ten, this ECU team would beat this N.C. State team. I am not saying that ECU will beat Kentucky, but as long as they do not get too cocky and bigheaded and just play their typical game, they then will have no problem beating Kentucky (6-6 record & in one of the worst years of the SEC). Alabama vs. SoCal, I was not born yet then!
Posted by: Big T Location: greenville on Dec 30, 2008 at 09:18 AM
ECU will beat Kentucky, I believe that, what I don't believe is a single word that comes out of Dave's mouth. However, that being said, if ECU loses to Kentucky, I will not go away, but I will never bash Dave again. I WILL keep my word. And DF, my knowledgable friend, while I would agree that, historically, big 10 and pac 10 are the strongest conferences in the country-not this year. They were both weak in relation to what they have been, especially the big 10. USC will prove that in the Rose Bowl.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 29, 2008 at 11:09 PM
TPL: Well stated, i love your objectivity. It will be very interesting to read Barry's rebuttal regarding your recruiting comments. Barry with ALL due respect that is, Sir. I posted a comment earlier and the beloved editor evidently didn't like my breath. Sam: The Rose Bowl: PAC-10 Champ VS BIG-10 Champ meaning the Gators(SEC) or Sooners(Big-12) are NOT the usual Rose Bowl participants. If my memory doesn't deceive me Alabama met USC in the 1980 RB, quite awhile! Sam back your rhetoric with facts NOT with your poetic theories. What is "appartently"? Did you mean [APPARENTLY]? ECU included NO team from the C-USA can beat PSU, Arizona, Arizona ST, Cal, Oregon, Oregon ST and certainly NOT USC. Big-10 and Pac-10 two f the weakest conferences, please save it. Arizona beat #16 BYU and Cal beat Miami. Not bad at ALL right Sam? Thank you
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Dec 29, 2008 at 06:56 PM
I'm not going to come out and say that ECU is the best team in NC. We're definitely better than we were when Skip first started, and we've won a lot of games that no one thought we could win. I think when we get our recruiting efforts to match those of UNC, State and the others in the state, and we maintain a good winning record in and out of the conference (and we start beating our in-state rivals on a more consistent basis), then we can call ourselves the best. I just don't want to jump the gun and put that label on us when this program still has some growing up to do. On a side note, NC State and UNC have now both lost their bowl games, and Wake Forest is the only one so far in the state to win theirs! I think ECU will show up and take home the bell! I just hope the Pirates do not underestimate Kentucky; we don't need another Marshall or NC State situation, like last year.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 29, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Sam, Sam: When are you going to learn any CFB? Rose Bowl: PAC-10 champ VS Big 10 champ. USC is rated #5; PSU #8. What is ECU rated? I can't hear you. When your team is rated talk garbage then, OK? Apparently is correct. What is "appartently"? HUM? ECU can't beat: Arizona, Arizona ST, Cal nor the two Oregon schools, IT!
Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Dec 29, 2008 at 03:23 PM
Robert, you are 100 % right when you say that ECU is the best College FB team in NC. As I stated before, it has been proven that ECU owns that title this year. Dave and Deadfish are a bunch of narrow-minded morons who appartently buys into all that BCS or BS, whatever you like to call it. The Rose Bowl can't be the granddaddy of them all unless it had the Gators or the Sooners. Instead it has SoCal and the Penn State Nittony Kitties, who are in two of the weakest BCS conferences. Deadfish, around here South Carolina is the real USC, not your LA school.
Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Dec 29, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Lets go pirates! Destroy the Wildcats in Memphis! Arrrrrrrggggggghhhhhh! Dave and Deadfish, ECU has already proven so much that they are considered the best team in NC. Look at the overall record, the ECU wins over Virginia Tech and West Virginia, who both beat UNC. Wake Forest and State could barely get in a bowl game, plus if State loses to Rutgers, they will finish with a losing season. Wake Forest had got blown out by State, whereas N.C. State had to just have a miracle in order to beat ECU. I even heard from several State fans that they were suprised that they beat ECU, let alone even had a shot. Oh yeah, did you two forget that ECU HAD DEFEATED THE ACC CHAMPIONS VIRGINIA TECH HOKIES? I guess you did. That eliminates those three teams from the running. I know that this proves out that the East Carolina Pirates are considered two things "CONFERENCE USA CHAMPIONS AND BEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAM IN NORTH CAROLINA." That's right!
Posted by: Pee Dee on Dec 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM
GO PIRATES BEAT uk!!!
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Dec 28, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Dave: An inimitable Dave type response! Thank you. Dave: my dear provincial Pa., ersatz scholar, you are becoming... parody. Is that your convoluted design? To become a prototype blogging martyr in a twisted display of self-hatred, by becoming a caricature of your own malingering self? (for Dave only- use a translator here for the b.i.g. words). Sad, really.
Posted by: Dave on Dec 28, 2008 at 08:35 PM
Barry the last time I checked it was a free country. Therefore, I am free to say that I HATE ECU!!! HA HAAAA!!!
Posted by: Wayne Location: WV on Dec 28, 2008 at 07:57 PM
ECU Equipment Manager and staff are the best in NC. Do you agreee?
Posted by: Barry Location: Greenville on Dec 28, 2008 at 06:15 PM
Dave: You did not keep your word, so your written word means nothing, or less. Alas, I and others have had this figured out about you & have written as such all along. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year deadfish. "Where it is a first down... PIRATES!"
Posted by: Dave on Dec 28, 2008 at 11:41 AM
ECU the best team in NC?? What a joke that is. NC, NCST, and Wake are all MUCH MUCH better than your precious ECU. There is nothing worse than ECU fans who think their team is so awesome.
Posted by: deadfish Location: NC on Dec 28, 2008 at 05:49 AM
Joke: "The best team in NC! Let's go Pirates!". Wake Forest might have something to say about that! I don't mean the roundball, either! Bill and TPL are more realistic! I wonder how ECU have fared against WF, Arizona, Cal? Didn't ECU lose to NC ST? I don't think my memory is that bad! Robert do you remember(!)? Hello? Stay tuned!
Posted by: Robert Location: Greenville on Dec 28, 2008 at 03:44 AM
The best team in NC! Lets go pirates!
Posted by: The Pirate Lady Location: Grimesland on Dec 27, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Let's go, Pirates!
Posted by: Bill Location: Greenville on Dec 27, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Go Pirates. See you on Beale Street!!!! We Believe!!
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