Pirates Stunned! ECU Upset by Wolfpack 30-24
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RALEIGH, N.C. -- Greenville native Andre Brown's 10-yard touchdown run in overtime lifted North Carolina State to a 30-24 upset of No. 15 East Carolina on Saturday.

Russell Wilson threw three touchdown passes -- including a game-tying 5-yarder to George Bryan with 1:12 left in regulation for the Wolfpack (2-2), seven-point underdogs who hung around all afternoon and never trailed by more than a touchdown.

Patrick Pinkney was 19-of-32 passing for 210 yards and a touchdown for the Pirates (3-1), whose BCS-busting hopes are all but over after their second straight loss to the Wolfpack. Pinkney's fumble on East Carolina's third play in overtime gave NC State a shot at the upset.

Brown hurdled defender J.J. Milbrook during a remarkable 16-yard run that set up the winning score, and finished with 73 yards and a 4-yard touchdown reception.

Wilson, a redshirt freshman making his first home start, went 21-for-31 for 210 yards and had a 20-yard TD throw to Williams. He energized a Wolfpack offense that entered with no touchdowns this season against teams from the bowl subdivision, and was one of just three in the FBS to rank 100th or worse in the four major stat categories -- rushing, passing, scoring and total offense.

NC State finished with 384 total yards against an East Carolina defense that entered as one of the nation's best.

Pinkney had a 20-yard scoring pass to Devon Drew for the Pirates, who have lost 14 of the 21 meetings in Raleigh and struggled for the second straight week. They opened the season with upsets of then-ranked Virginia Tech and West Virginia, but needed a final-moments scoring drive to outlast Tulane last week.

Van Eskridge returned an interception 23 yards for a score and third-stringer Norman Whitley added 83 yards rushing and a 42-yard scoring run for the Pirates, who never trailed in regulation but couldn't generate any separation against the most despised rival on its schedule.

After Ben Hartman's 21-yard field goal with 4 1/2 minutes left put the Pirates up 24-17, NC State's offense went to work: T.J. Graham returned the kickoff to the Wolfpack 45, and Wilson needed only two plays to move them into the red zone, hitting Jarvis Williams for 26 yards and Andre Brown for 17.

Five plays later, Wilson found a sliding Bryan in the end zone. The officials initially ruled the pass incomplete, but reversed the call after a review of about 5 minutes.

East Carolina went three-and-out on its final possession of regulation.
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Posted by: Phyllis Location: Canton, GA on Sep 27, 2008 at 01:52 PM
I am appalled by many of the statements that have been made on these blogs. They are so hateful. Almost everyone has a bad game or two. You would think from the comments that every NCSU and ECU fan is horrible. I have attended home games for both teams as my father was a NCSU graduate. In Raleigh and in Greenville, you will find wonderful and horrible fans. Growing up, we endured for every home State game an obnoxious fan. Most State fans would have preferred that this fan have pulled for someone else. At ECU's last home game last year, I met some fans I would have preferred not to be ECU fans. Everywhere you go you are going to find wonderful and obnoxious fans. I would never compare USC to ECU at this point. However you never know what might happen in the future. Years ago there were schools winning national championships that are no where on the radar now. BTW, Trojan fans, you lost to an unranked team Thursday night. Does that mean you are over ranked?
Posted by: smb=pirategirl Location: Grimesland aka Pirate Nation on Sep 26, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Excuse me? Did I just read that someone said NC State had "class" for not rushing the field? What about throwing beers at the ECU fans as they were leaving Carter Finley, or getting into the faces of ECU fans and taunting them for the loss when all they were trying to do was leave the stadium. Do you call that class?
Posted by: smb=pirategirl Location: Grimesland aka Pirate Nation on Sep 26, 2008 at 04:55 PM
*Standing up to applaud Big T (formerly Pirate)*
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Hey Rob, how about we street fight instead?
Posted by: Rob Location: Greenville on Sep 25, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Dave. are you ready to box? 12 pm X cel Fitness on Tuesday! I told all of the local media to be there!
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 24, 2008 at 07:05 PM
WOW nice post Big T, formerly Pirate! You are one of the "few" good ECU fans!
Posted by: Big T (formerly Pirate) Location: greenville on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:10 AM
No to dave and deadfish, I don't have delusions about ecu winning a national title. With that being said, a CUSA title would be nice. I did not attend ecu, however, I do appreciate what ecu does for this community economically. I enjoy pulling for the pirates. It would not surprise me, if the pirates are sucessful, if Skip bolted. Pat Dye, Ed Emory, just to name a few, did that very thing. Locally, ecu is what we have. Many communities in america don't even have that. So, pardon me, if I enjoy our local glory. I am not the closed minded person in this conversation. And for the record, I am a Joe Paterno fan. I am sure that will make Dave's day. As far as that academic crap goes, its a joke. I can write on a piece of paper that I am 6'5" and 240, fast as Carl Lewis, and built like Fabio. But just because its written, doesn't make it so. USC is a rule breaker, their booster support just gives them the resources to sweep the "dirty little secrets" under the carpet.
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:24 AM
deadfish we live in an area with a bunch of close minded ECU Pirate fans. To them, their team is a powerhouse who is going to win the CUSA title!! Since ECU will NEVER win a national title all these fans care about is that stupid CUSA title. Let them have their glory and people like us will continue to laugh at them!
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 23, 2008 at 06:21 PM
Pirate: English was NOT my major in college! Regarding the OSU player comment again I tell you it was/is NOT a big deal. While OSU is leading USC by about 300 pts for the 2009 recruiting class USC has more 4 and 5 stars players. With ALL due respect please do your homework. I assume that you attended ECU. Two points I am making since you attacked USC academics: 1. ECU is rated #206 academically in the nation. 2. USC is rated #25. Per: http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-counselor-rank Pirate I am NOT a WITN employee much less a fan of their network. I follow their blogging rules and I am extremely polite with my strong criticism. BTW I don't think ECU will defeat neither UCF nor TCU who are two very tough opponents. Let me share a comment by Chicago columnist Jay Marrioti on ESPN. He referred to Notre Dame poor record under Charlie Weis. He stated that if ND doesn't improve Skip Holtz might be their next head coach, UHM? I read that before on the web.
Posted by: pirate Location: greenville on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:14 PM
And deadfish, I stand corrected on the possesive noun. That is called an transposed typing error that was not proofread. My bad, but hey, I'm not perfect like you are. You are my literary hero!
Posted by: Pirate Location: greenville on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Dave, Dave, we had this conversation before the WVA game. I predict ECU 34, Houston 31. I believe it will be close, and for the very reason you say. However, the loss this past weekend was the best thing that could have happened to the pirates motivationally.
Posted by: Pirate Location: greenville on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Deadfish, I did not claim to be linguistically perfect as you do. And while I do, although reluctantly, agree with some of what you say, it still doesn't hide the fact that you are a putz. I saw the "tailwhuppin" coming. After Boise State, VT, WVA, and Tulane, the heads were POSITIVELY swollen. I am, as a pirate fan, thankful that the loss came to a non-conference foe. This will bring the young men back down to earth. I am not an OSU fan but found it interesting that the individual uttered that comment just days before you proclaimed to the world that USC was the end-all, be-all of college football. Yes, they have enjoyed sucess, but at what cost educationally? No ECU is not a scholar factory either. You spout out many facts and get away with much bad-mouthing of other bloggers. I wonder if you are a WITN employee. That's the only way I figure you get away with it. (By the way, I applied the apostrophe just for you so you wouldn't stroke over my mistake. Otherwise just Thats)
Posted by: Sharon on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:34 AM
True fans support their team whether they are winning or losing. It's time for ECU fans to show their pride, not their ignorance!
Posted by: Dan G. Location: Greenville on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:25 AM
Great Post Kim, I agree with you 100%. I had the same situation here at work as well and out on the street. One of my co-workers did not shut up all last week, just trashing NCSU fans, and talking about how this was nothing more than a high school scrimmage game, and it would be 50-0 score and all of that crap. Our fans acted like we were dang NFL champions or something. Makes me, as a Pirate fan, look bad even though I never said a word. Maybe our fans will learn to keep the piehole shut until after the games from now on!!
Posted by: Kim Location: Greenville on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:45 AM
I agree with the other posters on the fact that the Pirate fans (in general) make it a lot tougher on us. I think we just need to step back a moment and take one game at a time. All of this running around and talking a lot of trash and telling everyone in the world how "good" we are before the games are even played make us look like idiots. Most of my co-workers were laying down the smack/trash talk to several Wolfpack fans on Friday before the game. To tell you the truth I was pleading them to stop, and wait until the game was played before all of the trash talk. So...yesterday all of those trash talkers were buried in the ground by the Wolfpack fans, which to their credit, never mumbled 1 word until the game was over....I can see why we get labled "Big Headed" all the time. Stop your mouth running until after the games are played!!!!!
Posted by: Susan Location: Kinston on Sep 23, 2008 at 06:41 AM
Your reply gave me a little laugh as you discuss my typos, my inability to accept criticism, and my unlady like behavior. This comes from someone who is so quick to counter every negative comment made about him (her). Must be that one of my comments hit a nerve. Well, you can continue to cheer for USC and I will continue to cheer for ECU. And, if you need directions so you can return to your part of the country (where everyone types well, is a good sport, and all the females are ladylike) try map quest. We probably won't miss you, but we would miss the Pirates if they left!
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Pirate: My grammar is correct and so is my verb conjugation, thank you. Is that the best counter punch you have? If so you are extremely desperate. BTW since you are so eager to pin my grammar did you know that theirs is a possessive noun and thiers is NOT. Check: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thiers/ Pirate I am aware of the comment you're referring to, no big deal. OSU got crushed by USC, does it matter? Pack Mom ECU fans brought upon themselves with their behavior post WVA game police brutality or not. Pirates Forever your fellow ECU fans brought upon themselves as well the team bashing with their loud arrogant unrealistic claims and goals. FLTOECU I did NOT downgrade ECU's "achievements". Your fellow ECU fans made ECU an "over achiever". To be fair ECU has accomplished a lot considering this area is NOT talent rich. Skip Holtz has done a great job. He will be leaving to a bigger program and the boosters will not have enough money to keep him here, bet on IT!
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM
ECU has been exposed and Houston will crush the Pie Rats weak pass defense. Here is my early prediction. Houston 37 ECU 20
Posted by: Pirates Forever Location: Winterville on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:18 PM
WELL SAID, Pack Mom! All of this "team bashing" is giving me a headache. When it all comes down to it, true Southerners end up showing class, unlike so many of the fans posting comments here...God bless 'em!
Posted by: PACK MOM Location: ENC on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:34 PM
I would like to say that I admire the class and dignity that both coaches displayed throughout the game. Calm, cool and collected spelled pure class. After the game, my take on it was both teams could walk out of that stadium with their heads held high. Lets keep their heads up. Don't bring them down with all these negative comments.
Posted by: Greg Location: Greenville, on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:38 PM
The good news is that the Pirate fans did not rush the field after the game. Oh, they did not win. Duh
Posted by: LGurl Location: somewhere out there on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:40 PM
From what I understand, the WVU fans said that ECU fans were very rude as well.. Maybe it depends on who is winning. Eh, anyway, my bf is a big ECU fan and his son is a big NCSU fan, and I lean a little more towards UNC myself, so he has been picked on from both sides about this loss! HAHA! He actually set me straight on it today, so I am leaving him alone... for now! GO HEELS! ;)
Posted by: FLTOECU Location: NC on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:47 PM
My team is better than your team....my 7 year old son acts more mature than some of you. And for the comment about ECU needing to learn to hang with the big boys before they can play with the big boys (deadfish) get real it will never happen. What college did you play football for? ECU has come a long way and who are you to downgrade their achievements. The teams you refer to had to start somewhere. MOVE ON!
Posted by: Dwayne Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Not sure why Pack fans want to verbally beat up on ECU fans or the other way around. I hope to see both teams prosper this year. Let's see; Our country is at war, housing crisis, financial crisis, crime rate in the US is probably higher than Iraq and folks are squabbling over a recreational game? I hope our politicians place their priorities better than the general public.
Posted by: Meg Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:44 PM
I was at that game and let me just say that the Wolfpack fans were incredibly rude. I can understand being excited about winning,and I applaud the State football team for playing a great game, but the State fans got downright nasty toward many of the ECU fans including myself. I had Wolfpack fans in my face (within 2 inches) practically spitting on me screaming obscenities and making threats. They were vicious,rude, and had absolutely no class. They should all really work on manners; they're making their school look bad.
Posted by: Pirate Location: greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:41 PM
deadfish, your grammar may be correct but you badly need to learn how to conjugate a verb. Therefore, it is prudent to clean the skeletons from your own closet before directing someone on how to clean thiers. That being said, USC is a powerhouse I will agree. ECU has the best team they have had in a while. The chore that I will assign you sir is to rewind your DVR and listen to the comment made after the Ohio State game about why the young star chose Ohio State over USC. If you can't say something nice keep your piehole closed. I wonder how many times the NCAA has investigated USC, or ECU, I can imagine there is a rather large difference in that number as well. Probably much bigger than the spread between 1 and 23. Would you concur?
Posted by: Brad Location: Winterville on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Deadfish, If you're lost here in Pirate country I can help you. Pack your bags, find Interstate 95 and head north or south.
Posted by: brody Location: washington on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Great call Skip, go three times up the middle, once outside, dont kick the field goal..Why? I think you could have used the 3pts. dont you..hang in there
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Conference USA officials on the field. ACC officials reviewing replays in the booth.
Posted by: chris Location: raleigh on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM
LETS GO TO PACK NOW THAT IS SOMETHING TO RUN ON THE FIELD AND RUN ALL OVER THE ECU FOOTBALL TEAM SORRY GREENVILLE WE ARE JUST THAT GOOD. YAW WERE ON THE 1 YARD LINE AND THE 4 YARD LINE AND GOT STOPPED! RED IS SO PRETTY AND I BET THAT WOLF BITE HURT!!!!!
Posted by: Jack Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Great Post Butch, you are 100% correct. I Hated the fact that soooooooooo many of our fans were talking so much trash, and how bad we were going to beat down the Wolfpack before the game was even played. I love the Pirates, but let's run our mouth after the win and not before. All this does is make us eat crow.
Posted by: Joe Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM
It's a shame to see ECU have much more talent on the field and lose because of poor play calling. The coaches lost this game and the Steve Logan snap and throw to the sideline even if it never works continued to happen. Then, Lets run up the middle beleiving we have a Bettis built back even though it doesn't work time and time again. Did anyone notice how much success we had throwing DOWN the field. What a shame to see this opportunity fade because of tunnel visioned coaching. If it doesn't work after 10 times, change the call! Just stating the obvious!
Posted by: Butch Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:19 AM
I am not affiliated with any D-I football team, but I do enjoy the game of football. I am not from Greenville, just been living here a few years. ECU had years of futility, and with a couple wins against ranked teams, fans started "drinking the kool-aid" more than they should. But they have every right to be excited. That being said, Viginia Tech is on a down cycle, and WVU was highly overrated. ECU is a decent mid-major team and nothing more. It is great to have school spirit and a never say die attitude, but having a realistic sense of things is also important.
Posted by: No Pirate Location: Nowhere on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:05 AM
ECU will finish 8-4 and play in the Papa Johns Bowl again.
Posted by: GoPirates Location: GVegas on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM
I was very bummed that ECU lost AGAIN to NCSU!!! but I still believe in my Pirates!!! We have to lose one to get back on top!! Saturday's game was very good and we made too many mistakes! Learn from it and get 'em next time!! I still have the pirate faith..arrrgghhh GO PIRATES!!!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:51 AM
Ms. Susan: Please take your time typing. Secondly for a highly educated lady you don't know how to handle criticism. With ALL due respect it shows and you need to learn sportsmanship. Your "stuff it" comment is definitely NOT very lady like, OK? Good day!
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:17 AM
Still in the top 25, BABY!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:16 AM
Now, John, why did you have to bring the 'heels into this? ECU beat VT - Caroline BLEW a huge lead and let VT beat them. NCSU will beat UNC in Chapel Hill on 11.22.08
Posted by: Z-Man Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Great post Andy!! I agree with you 100% These ECU fans thought that their team was a powerhouse and NC State proved that they are a mere mid major who had their 15 minutes of fame.
Posted by: Concerned Location: Greenville, NC on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:39 AM
Cheer up ECU! You can't win them all
Posted by: Dwayne Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Go Pirates! Die hard ECU fan during the hard times. Proud of the Pirates. Good game Saturday. State deserved a hard earned win and congratulations. Can see ECU 11-1, possibly 10-2. Looking forward to going to the Memphis Liberty Bowl. Hey if State can pull of a stellar year, it would be great to see a repeat ECU vs NC State in the Peach Bowl. Probably wishful thinking. Great to see ECU still ranked. 23rd is probably more reflective of where we are as a team. Let's win a Conference USA championship this year!
Posted by: Andy Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:10 AM
You just have to realize that the Pirates are just not that good!! They are a good team, but not the greatest team in the country, and that is what all the Pirates fans were thinking. I think Pirate fans set themselves up for a huge let down. Get way to "Big Headed". For the last 2 years, ECU has had the best team they have had last last 10 years, while N.C. State has had the worst 2 years thay have had in 10 years, and still beat EZU both times!!! Just get over it!!!! This is Skippy's last year as well!!!!!
Posted by: Susan Location: kinston on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:36 AM
For all of you anit-ECU fans I am sure that you were disapointed to see that, although they dropped, the Pirates are still ranked. All the negative comments really do surprise me. I just wonder: How many of you that bash ECU attened one of the more esteemed univeristies you favor? For all of you who complain about the coach, how many of you have ever coached a college football team (or any team)? For all of you that say Skip will leave for more money, how many of you turn down a bigger and better opportunity to move up the career ladder? How many of you are business people who benefit from the money that ECU brings to the communitiy? I graduated from ECU and proud of it as my degrees have done me well. I am also proud to be Pirate fan! For the rest of you, stuff it!
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Anonymous: Accept that NC ST won: PERIOD. It doesn't matter whether they are rated or NOT. The fact that they are not rated worked against ECU. ECU fans are not in any position to run their chops. The cat is out of the bag. Let me explain: I mentioned that VT and Tulane have speedy defenses(LB's). NC ST has the speed and they unleashed and you know the rest. Houston if they are smart will do the same: blitz, blitz... It worked last Saturday and they rattled ECU's offense and Pinkney. Those three games films will be studied-bet on it! That's ECU weak point and it will be exploited! If ECU loses next Saturday the season for all practical purposes is over. It will be very hard to recover from that...
Posted by: John Location: Creswell on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Pirates Suck !! GO HEELS !!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous Location: greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:06 PM
Grow up state after all it was a football game. So what we lost a game we will pick up and win again the sun will shine again you State fans sound like a bunch of 4th graders on the play ground my dad is better than your dad. The game is over it's a new day State needs to stop the talk and worry about next weeks game :)
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 07:40 PM
pirate '00: I have been an USC Trojan fan for a long time. I am NOT a fair weather fan. This is a FREE country and you can root for any sports team you care to. Please save that "PIRATE country" stuff. It doesn't give you any authority or right to rule. It comes with the territory which means you need to learn sportsmanship, OK? Furthermore USC plays like a #1 team. ECU lost to an unranked team led by a freshman QB meaning you and the rest of the Pirates fans are NOT in any position to talk big. Do yourself a favor and show humility. It might gain you some respect. ECU can NOT beat USC second team, OK? To prove that USC is loaded with four and five stars players on both sides of the line. If you don't believe me check rivals.com. ECU might have one or two three stars players at the most. Those are facts... Thank you
Posted by: wolfpack>pirates on Sep 21, 2008 at 07:28 PM
You ECU fans need to get over your envy. You guys got beat by a better team and a better school!
Posted by: pirate '00 Location: winterville nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 05:57 PM
Whats all this talk about USC? Certainly they are a great team but you are in PIRATE country. Its easy to pull for the #1 team in the country (sounds like a bandwagon fan to me). Go out on a limb and take some chances. GO PIRATES!
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 05:56 PM
Ty: Before you start correcting anybody on anything learn how to spell GRAMMAR: G R A M M A R OK? What is "grammer"? BTW the AP poll has as much credibility as you do... Let me know when ECU goes to a BCS bowl and then a lot of people might take you seriously. Please go back to the 4th grade English class... Thank you
Posted by: Ty Location: Greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 05:29 PM
Deadfish- You just don't GET IT! Ohh and by the way ECU is ranked #23 in the AP pole. You say my grammer is atrocious? I see your throwing stones from a Glass House. I had no idea this was Grammer class...like I said you don't GET IT!
Posted by: to lovesecu Location: nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 04:54 PM
The fact is that ECU was fined $10000. As far as other facts, in your own school paper The East Carolinian article dated 10/18/07 written by sports editor Greg Katski states that from 1983-87 (you might have been in diapers), ECU beat NCSU 3 of 5 times and each time ECU won they poured on the field at Carter-Finley Stadium and tore down the goal posts as a show of disrespect. CHECK OUT THAT FACT. I think you are the one that needs a little history lesson.
Posted by: Robert Lewis Location: Greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 04:04 PM
ECU is now 23 in the AP poll. I don't see NC State and UNC up there. This is still going to be a great season! The Pirate family sticks together!
Posted by: Pirates always on Sep 21, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Congrats on your win Wolfpack! You guys played a better game, no doubt about that. But maybe a lesson you can take away from the pirates, is that our team spirit never dies. We are always proud of our pirates and love living in pirate nation. Unlike State fans who are JUST now supporting their team. Congrats on your win but a TRUE fan, loves their team regardless of winning or losing. We know what school spirit is. Pirate fans are True fans, and always will be. ARGHHHH
Posted by: packfan Location: apex nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 02:02 PM
"A blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while." Thanks to ECU for losing the game. The Pack could not have won without your help. The PACK still gets NO respect. We did not even get a single vote in the AP poll. Looks like we finally found a quarterback. HOOOWWWLLL!!
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 02:01 PM
Ty: With ALL due respect Sir your grammar is atrocious considering you stated attending USC which is #25 rated academically while ECU is #206. Secondly please check your reading level. Rob did NOT compare ECU to USC and neither did I for that matter. Our point is that ECU fans hopes and loud rhetoric got too(correct, NOT to like you did) big for their britches. I strongly stated like Rob that ECU has to learn to hang with the big boys before they can play against them. You're correct not ALL USC are glory years. Yes, I remember Mack Brown and UNC beating USC in Raleigh in 1993. By the same token USC has won 11 NC's in FB alone and add 7 Heisman trophy winners, thank you. we can back-up our opinions ECU fans can NOT>IT! Correctly stated I am not AN ECU fan, either, got it? ECU fans the Pirates are out of the top 25: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm Fans in general check: http://www.petecarroll.com/index.cfm?pid=400683
Posted by: pirate '00 Location: winterville nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 01:52 PM
GO PIRATES! Lets get back on track with winning. We are still AP top 25....#23 even after NC State defeat. By the way, no one mentioned Colorado storming the field after defeating West Virgina on Thursday night. I thought fans were not allowed to storm the field after a big defeat. Looks like ECU fans are not the only ones doing so. Lets see if Colorado faces fines.
Posted by: Madison Location: washington on Sep 21, 2008 at 01:47 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STATE!!!! I am so bummed that the pirates lost!!! My dad was as angry as ever! Oh, well better luck next time!!!!
Posted by: David Location: Greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 01:42 PM
ECU should never have been ranked anyway because they are a joke of a college football program.
Posted by: stephanie Location: walker on Sep 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Go pack. I think the NCSU students stayed in the stands after the game nobody arrested and no spoiled students complaining the big ole policeman hurt me mom and dad
Posted by: Ty Location: Greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Hey Rob no need to toot your horn to much. You certainly sound like a "bandwagon Trojan fan". I'm not a ECU fan but you sound foolish trying to compare ECU and USC football. Don't think USC has had all glory years. USC has had their share of thin years where they could not buy a win. I know because I attended USC back in the early 90's. USC is tough, very tough and they have great depth in every position. The recruiting pool they have to choose from in L.A. is incredible. L.A. pop. is over 4 million and that is just metro L.A. However, not many people know USC is a private Univ. and is in one of the roughest neighborhoods in L.A.
Posted by: football fan Location: eastern nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM
to howler in enc.....i would have tipped him anyway....lol.....he was HOT even if he did graduate from state :o)
Posted by: daniel Location: raleigh on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:01 AM
can you say overrated
Posted by: Roger Location: Greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:00 AM
ECU next home game commands. Ready on the line, ready set, get drunk, show behind.
Posted by: lovesecu Location: greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:49 AM
pack mom, check your history. Most games have had no incidents, especially the last few. The "last ECU home game"? Nothing happened except your officials lowered your own goal posts. "Shameful display"? Check your facts.
Posted by: pack mom Location: enc on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:09 AM
The pack had to win! After that shameful dispay at the last ECU home game, the pack was afraid they'd lose their goalpost again! It's ironic how mascots do truly represent the schools in that situation. Pirates run around like crazed maniacs and wolves stay in their herd and watch their prey! :)
Posted by: Roger Location: Greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Good game but a great loss. More on the way? Did you see that NCSU did not get stupid during post game. They got what it take's up there in Raleigh to get the job done.
Posted by: Trojan Fan Location: Lost in G'ville on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:06 AM
AWESOME post deadfish!! Go TROJANS!!
Posted by: Rob Location: greenville on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:48 AM
Deadfish, your right on about recruiting and I'd add that if ECU didn't have the locally talented HS football pool to get good players there would be no ECU football program. By the way Pirates, that RB who carried defenders into the end zone for the Wolfpack victory was a graduate of JH Rose. I'll also state the obvious, Holtz will boost his resume and leave to coach better talent. So Pirate's, enjoy what he does for you guys.
Posted by: howler Location: enc on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:47 AM
to the football fan at ruby tuesday. the waiter wanted a tip, of course he agreed with you.
Posted by: teacher Location: windsor on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:15 AM
VERY well stated Pirate Forever!!!
Posted by: BW Location: Wilkes on Sep 21, 2008 at 01:51 AM
Still in pain, the way that went down, that was plain & simply a kick in the (deleted).

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Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Hi Rob: I am another USC Trojans fan lost here in this Pirate nation area. I posted in the Tulane thread that it would take a speedy defense to knock ECU. Both VT and Tulane just fell short. This time ECU luck ran out. If ECU goes to a bowl it will be a second tier ding-dong pop corn bowl... I don't think they'll win the CUSA championship. To ECU fans: Your hopes and your talk was too big for your britches! Where is ALL that undefeated, out of CUSA and a BCS bowl rhetoric? Please? ECU has to learn to hang with the big boys before they can play the big boys. One advise for the Pirates boosters and Mr. Skip Holtz: You will have to do a better recruiting job. I posted it before and I say it again according to rivals.com CFB recruiting rankings Duke is #32 and ECU is #70. Hey Rob: USC is #2! OSU is #1. There is a good chance that USC will be #1 in February signing day! Fight On!
Posted by: Pack Man Location: Raleigh on Sep 20, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Wuffies?? Whatever Pie Rat.
Posted by: STATER Location: NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 11:05 PM
WITN was so distraught after this loss that they never mentioned it in the first 3 seconds of the 11:00 news like they always do.
Posted by: Still Pirate4life on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Alright, you wuffies have your fun, but by next week, your gonna wish you would've never played us. GO PIRATES.
Posted by: football fan Location: eastern nc on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:28 PM
While I am a Heels fan first, I pull for the Pirates because they are practically in my backyard. As I told the waiter I had today in Ruby Tuesday at Crabtree Mall......"A blind squirrel can find an acorn every once in a while." and he is a NCSU grad. He actually agreed with me. Go figure.
Posted by: Pack Man Location: Raleigh on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Hey Pirate, they didn't win 27-24. ECU LOST 30-24!! AAARRGHHHH!!! GO PACK!!
Posted by: Rob Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:25 PM
ECU just got removed from the #15 spot b/c they never deserved it. They also beat two ranked teams that were also oveerrated. They just experienced a good defense and allowed a freshman QB to throw his first 3 collegiate TD's. If they do get a bowl it's because they play against other mediocre teams. Maybe one or two seniors will make it to the next level. Now there is one team out there that lost 10 players to the NFL last year and their still ranked #1, USC. And there is NO one that can say they aren't deserving, just ask The Ohio State. Just remember when you talk big Pirate nation that you'll never be big enough to step into LA Coliseum unless you buy a ticket to watch another level of football.
Posted by: Mr. Bob on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:01 PM
As if you people don't know that ecu is just a branch of the UNC system. If you want to seperate and go private you'll dry up just like a tumbleweed.
Posted by: Pirate Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Coaches lost the game. Should have kicked the field goal first time in the red zone in the the 4th. Pirates should have won 27-24.
Posted by: Pirate Fan Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 09:55 PM
Wow, you guys are rough. All this bashing. We are talking about kids aging from 18-22 playing a game. They're more concerned about what they're doing tonight. I'm an upset pirate fan, but come on....all the media did is talk about going undefeated, being top 25, BCS Buster, etc. At least we won't have to hear it anymore. ECU is having a great year and we are 1-0 in the conference. Congrats to the wolfpack and congrats to Coach Holtz. I just hope we can keep Skip here a little while.
Posted by: ECU_Pride on Sep 20, 2008 at 09:34 PM
Glad to see the State fans are celebrating.....Have fun might be the only time this year....By the way to the person who tried to disrespect WITN your opinions are noted and put in the most important file....The Trash
Posted by: Mr. Bob on Sep 20, 2008 at 09:34 PM
This site must be owned by the liberals. I'll be happy when they dump the Biden/Obama articles and print positive about McCain. Think I'll try to find a non bias news source.
Posted by: Pirate Forever! Location: Winterville on Sep 20, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Why all the hate mail from State fans? You WON! State just had a better day, that's all! The Pirates will pick it back up and get on the winning track once again. ACC has HAD their MANY, MANY days in the sun. Now that ECU has had a little recognition...FINALLY...State fans are all bitter and whiny. Hum, are the Carolina Fans rubbing off on you?
Posted by: James Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 09:07 PM
Congrats to the wolfpack. You guys were not that good....we just played that bad! But hey even the pack needs to feel loved sometimes. It's time for the pirates to get there heads back in the game. No matter what, we still won't have as bad of a year as they will! On a final note, I must say that it must be tough being a wolfpack fan. When you have to copy other teams video entrances, and other teams touch down celebration then you know they have something you will never truely have! That being said, I would rather be a pirate fan win or lose than a state fan who copies others any Day! ARRRGGGGG! (<- they will figure out a way to copy that too, LOL)
Posted by: David Location: Kinston on Sep 20, 2008 at 09:05 PM
Poor coaching!
Posted by: NC State baby...GO Wolfpack!!! Location: Raliegh, NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:56 PM
Congrats NC State!!!
Posted by: Rob Location: NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:14 PM
Well, ECU and its legions of hardcore fans had their 15 minutes. Welcome back to reality.
Posted by: greenville Location: pirate fan on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:13 PM
offense cord. needs to be fired the play calling to basic .the team didn't choke ,the catch staff fail under pressure.you get inside red zone twice .come up empty?
Posted by: WOLFPACK FAN Location: GRANDY, NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:05 PM
U ECU fans just as well get over it! U lost to a better team. U can't win all of them. U have a great team but why do U want to curl up in the fetal position whem U loose? The bottom line is "the best team came out on top" So suck it up and say "congrats to the WOLFPACK" Be a person with a backbone and just get over it!
Posted by: Raleigh Pirate Location: Sneads Ferry on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Smug Pack. The stats reveal a close game. The "hype" was 24 hour sports media created. Now Coach Holtz and the team can focus on winning games. This game is always emotional--next time. Congrats Pack. Let's go Pirates!
Posted by: TMD Location: Wash. on Sep 20, 2008 at 07:50 PM
Cactus, Not disrespecting HS football. I am saying they played like a HS team. Remember, these r collegiate athletes. They simply did not execute like they should have. I am a Pirate forever, however the boys are a better team than what was shown today. I feel confident Coach Holtz will work the kinks out, and I certainly meant no disrespect towards HS football.
Posted by: Reality Location: Home on Sep 20, 2008 at 07:34 PM
ECU will lose to Houston, UTEP, UCF, and Southern Miss. Looks like a 6-5 year Pirate Nation!
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 07:26 PM
The only thing that Pirate fans will be painting purple tonight are their coloring books!
Posted by: Me Location: My house on Sep 20, 2008 at 07:20 PM
The CUSA Championship?? LOL!! WOW what a mighty accomplishment that would be LOL!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 20, 2008 at 07:12 PM
Looks like you edit the anti pirate coments and anti witn comments and let the pirate smack get through. no wounder I watch channel 5 and 9! you are all pittiful and sorry as (deleted)!

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Posted by: ECU FAN Location: G-ville on Sep 20, 2008 at 06:38 PM
Out AP rank might be gone. But at least this was not a conference game. Our pirates will still come back. GO PIRATES!!
Posted by: Cactus Location: Strabane, NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 06:17 PM
TMD, why are you downing the high school football teams?
Posted by: deadfish Location: nc on Sep 20, 2008 at 06:12 PM
You ECU fans didn't think you get away from JAWS, HAH? Never happen GI! I watched the game even though I am an USC Trojan fan, OK? An NC ST fan had a sign with this acronym for ESPN: ECU Streak Pauses Now Anonymous and Concerned where did you go to school? Your English grammar is atrocious. Would of been, what does that mean? How about would have been? Concerned how about lose NOT loose? Concerned how about there NOT their? Concerned how about themselves NOT theirselves? That is simply unacceptable pathetic barbaric writing, sheesh... On another thread I posted that it would take a speedy defense to knock ECU>BINGO! Where are the bragging ECU/usual suspects? #14 this and that followed by #15>out of the top 25. I told you they can NOT hang with the big boys, WHY? They can't beat a little boy(NC ST with ALL due respect)led by a freshman QB... That is WHY ECU will be lucky if they go to a ding-dong popcorn bowl! Mr. Holtz got out coached, period.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 20, 2008 at 05:57 PM
Wow ECU_PRIDE is a real accomplishment to win the Conference USA championship. But y'all wont even do that because you will choke against a team like UTEP in conference play.
Posted by: Wolfpack supporter Location: Eastern NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 05:55 PM
Not all of us are purple. My blood is too red for all of this. It's about time the PACK won. Go red and white!!
Posted by: John Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 05:37 PM
Oh well I guess the sports guys will get to talk about how ECU is so great and nothing else. They will have to talk about NC STATE'S win and ecu's loss in the opening story instead of just ecu. At least you see the class of State by not rushing the field and enjoying the win with class.
Posted by: Chris Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 05:01 PM
Poor little Pirates . The AP dream is over. Shuffle back to a so-so team status.
Posted by: Concerned Location: Eastern NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Looks like the glass slipper did not fit after all!!!!! Sorry it had 2 be the Wolfpack though because they are like ECU in football as they cannot play either. But, the Wolfpack has class because it does not appear their fans, both drunk and sober, rushed the field. ECU is out of the top 25 and will loose about half of their remaining games. Wonder how many ECU fans will get arrested in Greenville tonight due 2 their loss???? Sure their will be some so depressed they will try 2 drink theirselves into a drunken stupor.

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Posted by: ECU_PRIDE Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 04:18 PM
I look at it this way ECU has something to look forward to a Conference Championship and State will be lucky to end up 4 - 8 maybe 5 - 7 if they get lucky.... GO PIRATES!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Scott Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 04:03 PM
NC State fans were very classy by not going on the field either! Way to go NCSU!!
Posted by: chuck 3rd Location: 28586 on Sep 20, 2008 at 04:00 PM
WOLFPACK STILL SUX !!!
Posted by: Anonymous Location: NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:58 PM
No surprise on how short the article is. If ECU had won, all game stats would of been posted and yet again, pinkney would of been a superstar. I'm just glad to get this greenville media off states back. EC WHO? GO PACK
Posted by: ECU Fan Location: Eastern NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:56 PM
They will come back with a bite of thier own. No biggie!
Posted by: TMD Location: Washington on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:43 PM
I will always be a Pirate fan, and getiing knocked out of the top 25 is probably the best thing that could happen. Now we focus on conference play. I hope Skip has them running 50 yd. gassers as soon as the bus arrives in G-Ville. Wolfpack fans, you deserve a cold beer, as we played like high school football
Posted by: ECU loses Location: NC on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Congrats Wolf Pack fans!! GREAT WIN!! The ECU fans have a good reason to say AARRGGGHHH now!!
Posted by: Pirate fan Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:39 PM
ECU what is wrong with you. You can beat the hard teams with no issue. But the easy teams you struggle or barely beat. Whats going on?
Posted by: Mr. Bob on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:36 PM
RIGHT ON !!! Go Wolfpack !!!
Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I told you Pirate Nation, NOW your dream season is OVER!! Bye bye AP Top 25!! Man THAT made my day, no my whole YEAR!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:28 PM
AARRGHH, THE WOLF TAKES A BITE OUT OF THE PIRATES
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