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SBI To Investigate Exessive Force Allegations; ECU Fined Save Email Print
Posted: 11:59 AM Sep 12, 2008
Last Updated: 9:12 PM Sep 12, 2008

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ECU police have asked the State Bureau of Investigation to takeover the probe into allegations that police used excessive force after the university's win over West Virginia.

University police chief Scott Shelton contacted the SBI Thursday and met with an SBI agent today. Shelton says his department has ended its investigation and has turned all of its information over to the SBI.

ECU says because of the various law enforcement agencies providing security at the game, the ECU police chief said he felt it appropriate than an independent agency look into the allegations.

After the SBI completes its investigation, Pitt County district attorney Clark Everett will decide whether any charges should be brought against law enforcement officers.

The announcement comes on the same day that the university was fined $10,000 for allowing fans on the field after the game.

Conference USA says that is a violation of its sportsmanship policy.

The conference says ECU also faces possible sanctions after Saturday's big win against West Virginia.

In a news release, Conference USA says ECU may be subject to possible suspension of hosting post-season conference championships.


Conference USA News Release

IRVING, Texas - Conference USA announced Friday that East Carolina University will be fined $10,000 and subject to a possible suspension of future hosting privileges for a violation of one of the league's sportsmanship policies which prohibits public access to competition areas.

The fine stems from East Carolina's post-game celebration, which occurred Saturday, when fans stormed the field of Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium following the Pirates' 24-3 victory over No. 8 West Virginia.

The action of the fans was “clearly in violation” of the sportsmanship standards of Conference USA, according to a letter sent Thursday by league Commissioner Britton Banowsky to ECU Athletic Director Terry Holland.

In addition to an increased fine, any repetition of such an incident in football or any sport could also result in the suspension of hosting privileges for conference championship competition.

“Having personally experienced the game day atmosphere at Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium, I would like to congratulate the 43,610 members of the Pirate Nation who provided a national television audience with an outstanding example of how important the fans are to a great college football experience,” Banowksy said. “However, in June 2008, the conference adopted a post-game policy to ensure the safety of visiting players and officials is maintained. That cannot be achieved when fans are celebrating on the field in the presence of the visiting team.

“As is the case in every conference, we expect all 12 of our members to take the steps necessary to create a safe environment at their events. It is both a reasonable expectation and an important one.”

ECU Chancellor Steve Ballard said, “Our first concern at any of our athletics events is the safety of the fans and the participants. We are committed to making any changes necessary to enhance safety at these events and to follow Conference USA mandates.”

Conference USA policy states that “institutions are responsible for the conduct of spectators at events that they are hosting and that spectators should not be permitted on the field of play until the visiting team and officials have made safe transition to the locker room.”

“The Conference USA post-game policy is consistent with those of other major conferences and we support the sportsmanship objectives articulated by Commissioner Banowsky," Holland said. "It is critically important for us to refocus on winning football games so that we will have many opportunities to celebrate the unique bond that exists between our team and the Pirate Nation.”

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Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 17, 2008 at 04:14 PM
To wouldnt you like to know it's a shame everyone can't be as smart and as nice as you are I'm sure you are such a joy to be around

Posted by: Think Location: Greenville on Sep 14, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Bernie,I must have missed the statement were you seem to know the other conference policies and not that of the team you pull for. Why is that again? How did you come to the conclusion that I was a fair weather fan and sitting at my house to see the game?

Posted by: RESPONSIBILITY Location: Greenville, NC on Sep 13, 2008 at 11:01 PM
BLAH,BLAH,BLAH! what ever happen to the old saying," that if you do something that your not suppose to do, then be reay to accept the consequences." Why SBI? It's over move on. You broke a law and the Law responded. what did you expect a welcoming party on the field. I guess we should give those students a big bowl of ice cream to make them feel better, and give chief shelton some cookies with his bowl. Boy he's really fighting crime isn't he. You go chief shelton, make our streets safer by taking cops off the streets when they did what YOU told them to do. By the way I'm not a cop, and don't even know one personally. they got what they deserved for running onto the field when asked not to. HEY chief Shelton, that Pirate uniform on the field is scary, can we hace him removed for safety!!!!

Posted by: Concerned Location: Eastern NC on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Thank u Conference USA for fining them 4 disobeying the law. It is a shame some parents think because their kid is in college they r doing everything right. They did not follow the rules and now they must pay. Hopefully they will rush the field one more time so it all can be taken. Go Conference USA

Posted by: abc Location: xxx on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Anonymous: Learn English: You're right is correct. Your right is NOT only incorrect it is also barbaric and pathetic... Maybe you went to ECU rated #206 academically in the nation...

Posted by: Ozone Location: Belhaven on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:10 PM
This is how you fix the problem--You get a drunk to go out in the middle of the field before the game. You announce on the PA that the volunteer will be receiving 200.00 for his help with the demonstration. You go on to tell the crowd of rowdy fans that cant stay off the field that you will experience this....at this point you taze your volunteer until he hits the ground. Then double your officer at the games and arm them with 2 tazers per officer. This would probably keep most people off the field. Just a thought////.....

Posted by: EC10RET Location: NC on Sep 13, 2008 at 06:37 PM
Well, I'm not going to change any minds here, and I'm tired of this, so I'm taking a break. Thanks Wild Bird for your description of the jerks rushing the field as "scared puppies". That was the best one yet. To all the officers involved hang in there. The SBI will conduct a fair investigation. To the pro-law enforcement commenters thanks for your support. To the anti-law enforcement comments, next time you need help, call a "fan". To the ECU administration, Stop winking at the drinking and interfering with ECUPD's efforts at controlling alcohol consumption at sporting events.

Posted by: ?? Location: WOULDNT U LIKE TO KNOW on Sep 13, 2008 at 05:52 PM
WOW THOSE CAMERAS ARE GREAT FOR CATCHING THE LAST OF THE ACTION. HEY DIDNT ECU GET FINED FOR ALLOWING THE STUDENTS ON THE FIELD.....CAN U SAY IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW???? YET LETS NOT LET THE POLICE DO THERE JOB.... WHEN THEY DONT DO THERE JOB ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH . WHEN THEY DO, LETS PERSECUTE THEM. IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW!!!! ALSO IT DIDNT SHOW ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS GETTING LAID OUT BY ONE OF THE STUDENTS BUT IT DID SHOW WHEN THE POLICE OFFICER GOT UP CHASED THE SAME GUY DOWN AND USED THE SAME AMOUNT OF FORCE BY SLAMMING HIM AND TAKING HIM INTO CUSTODY. NEXT TIME SOMEONE BREAKS IN YOUR HOUSE AND SHOOTS YOU MAYBE WELL TEL THE POLICE TO NICELY ASK THE CRIMINAL TO GIVE UP AND HE WILL LISTEN. SORRY SOMETIMES THEY USE FORCE AND THE MEDIA ALWAYS CAN MAKE IT LOOK ALOT BETTER THAN WHAT IT REALLY IS..ESPN..IF U DONT SUPPORT THE POLICE DONT CALL THEM WHEN SOMEONES GOT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD CAUSE ITS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY MIGHT AS WELL TAKE OUR GUNS. HOPE ECU HAVE LOTS MORE DRUNK FEST

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Posted by: Wild Bird Location: Bath on Sep 13, 2008 at 05:31 PM
If this happened to a child of mine I would sue they people involved. You can see from the tape and it shows a law officer throwing someone to the ground. WRONG! I know if it was my child I would throw that officer to the ground in a law suit. I would take my child out of ECU they are looking around like scared puppies wanting to know what to do next. They could of said it was wrong and stood up for their fans and students.

Posted by: THE LAW Location: GREENVILLE on Sep 13, 2008 at 04:40 PM
REMEMBER "WE WIN, WE ALWAYS WIN!"

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 13, 2008 at 04:37 PM
The students rushing the field was not right,but this has happened many times after football, basketball, etc. The problem here should be the force that law officers used. If the officers had not have used this kind of force nothing would have ever been said about this. This problem is being turned around all on ECU. Let's not forget why an issue was ever made out of this.

Posted by: Bernie Location: Greenville on Sep 13, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Think- Point fingers and they get broken off. The only thing I have typed of my thoughts was "no harm no foul". The rest were from the press or quotes from the WVU coach. Whats your problem? I was there, I saw the films at 5:30AM Sunday. I have in know way changed any of my thoughts. By the way how did the game look while you were sitting in your livingroom you fair weather fan?

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 13, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Sorry KAT. Your right. I'll stop posting sarcastic comments, if you promise to stop calling me sugar. Deal? Seriously though, I admit some of my comments have been unhelpful and insulting. I'm going to cut that out. This really isn't a discussion board, but a place where citizens can make comments about their opinions on news stories. I, and some others here, have been abusing that. Anyway, (only speaking for myself here) it stops now.

Posted by: KAT Location: Washington on Sep 13, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Talon, I believe you need to spew your venom at a gym sugar. Your comments are obviously irrational. What are you so mad about? This is a simple discussion board.

Posted by: Dewey Location: Greenville on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:05 AM
I've got an idea on how to keep the "I want to act like this is a third world country soccer game animals" off the field. Here goes. If you are an ECU Student and get caught on the field at anytime before, during, or after the game, you will be charged with trespassing, automatically expelled from any state university for life, and your parents(because everyone knows you're sorry a@#$@ aren't paying for school) receive an unappealable $1000 fine. That's how you fix it.

Posted by: Talon Location: NC on Sep 13, 2008 at 08:04 AM
There, there Pirate Club T***y Baby, it's Ok. Here's your pacifier, your pirate blankie, and your bot bot full of scotch. Don't cry......... HA HA HA HA HA

Posted by: Pirate Club T***Y Baby on Sep 13, 2008 at 04:53 AM
Boo Hoo. stomp, stomp. It's STILL the COPS fault. Sniff sniff. Waaaaaa waaaaaaaa. I don't care WHAT Conference USA says. WAAAAAUGH WAAAAAAA.

Posted by: gvegasJ Location: Greenville, NC on Sep 13, 2008 at 01:47 AM
Fans rush the field or court all the time in college athletics. ECU would not have been fined if the police incident wasn’t all over national television. C-USA is just trying to make itself look better while making ECU look worst.

Posted by: Wayne Location: Havelock on Sep 12, 2008 at 11:35 PM
What was that??? Did I hear you students right? For all of us to understand that it was ok for all of you to rush the field because of a victory? Even though it was against the rules and what you were told? You shouldn't have to listen to the rules because it was a great game? Now $10,000 later and all of your whinning.....People are still having to explain why grown students that SHOULD be responsible were acting like they were above the rules and do what ever they want while blaming others for their faults. GEE...I wonder why tuition is always going up. Maybe you students should pay for your own way instead of your parents doing it for you. As for the officers involved. I feel sorry for you. The SBI will slant the investigation which ever way is politically suggested. My sympathy to you guys.

Posted by: 07 Alumni Mom- Pirate Fan on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:22 PM
I am amazed or actually alarmed at the reactions to this event!! To read that the only debate is whether the students should have rushed the field or not is ludicris. How about the undo force the officer showed by beating a student while he was lying on the ground. I am saddened to beleive that that officer could have acted so violently. Forget worrying about playoffs and fines lets hope that the officer receives the help he needs to overcome his anger issues. Keep up the good work Pirates!!

Posted by: unhappy officer. Location: greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 08:35 PM
Hey itp you cant coordinate the truth you see a video of an officer striking ok. The truth was that the boy was not complying with the officers.Jyea how much would you like to bet that the other bottom part of that video would show. The kidds they grabbed were wasted and fighting officers when they tryed to grab them if they would of just complyed i bet their would be no need to slam or use a strike to get them in handcuffs and no one would have been arrested. Now every officer on or off the feild has to be investigated by the SBI yall make me sick

Posted by: ltp on Sep 12, 2008 at 07:18 PM
I think Terry is right. We need to just let this go since it is hurting the team by dividing the fans. It is a trainwreck. It needs to get picked up and back on the track again. The SBI is not going to find anything since a week has gone by and all the stories have been coordinated. If all parties play it better maybe it won't happen again.

Posted by: Jason Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Good job students/Fans! You cost ECU 10K for your poor judgement. And also just to let you know the WVU players were off the field BUT the Coaches were not. The players and Coaches are ready to be a BIG Time program.....It's obvious many of the students and fans are not! One other fact most if not all Conf. have a strict policy about running on the field. The BIG East will fine a school $50,000 for such an act. People get tired of hearing ECU fans complain about not getting any "respect" and ECU gets "singled out"....blah,blah, blah. This is an example why ECU does not get respect.

Posted by: yep Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 06:29 PM
Hey melvin things were burning in ecu. lol. ps good luck with your home games with no officers wanting to work it. cant have a game with out officers. Troopers riot team next and good luck.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 06:25 PM
Know how to fix this in the future... once the fans get in they have to get out so take names and check ids. If you dont have any id or a way to prove you are who you say you are then you get arrested. To those whose names they get put a mark in there student file and on 3 such infractions boot them from school for the semester. They are supposed to be adults but from what I see of many college students they are still acting and carrying on like teenagers. Adults follow the rules. Push comes to shove then detain anyone caught on the field. Dont try and stop them simply stop them from leaving. While they might not be able to stop all of them ..let it be know that anyone caught will get failure to comply with a leo officer/resisting arrest or impeding a leo officer the execution of his duties etc. Students need to learn that there are consequences to there actions.

Posted by: Stuborn Goat on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Baaa Baaa you good sheep you. Then next year when talon tells you to lick his boots, I guess you won't mind that either.

Posted by: Blog Refuter Location: NC on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:48 PM
I guess that this serves as a lesson learned for all parties involved. Abide by the rules or you will be publicized as a wild, unruly bunch of people.

Posted by: Joe Location: pitt on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:31 PM
Where the students that you see in the video charged with anything?

Posted by: Tim Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:21 PM
This is BS. A fine for not controling the crowd. Now ECU police asking for SBI to investigate. Come on pirates we need to get this out of the media, I hope the SBI find zero out, maybe they should look at the video and try to identify people who rushed the field and fine them.

Posted by: Chris Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Ok, We can't have it both ways. The law enforcement for that game was spread over Eastern NC because of tropical storm Hanna. They had a bare bones enforcement staff, they could only do so much. So what if a couple of idiots got body slammed, maybe they will think twice before trying to run on the field again. On the contrary, C-USA should not be fining the school because the law officials couldn't stop all the crowd. Maybe we should say screw a hurricane or tropical storm next time , we have a football game today. The people that need help or rescue from the storm will understand.

Posted by: ECU Alumni on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:05 PM
Childish? Lets be real here, these rules have to be in place in today's world should be obeyed but childish? I think you may want to lighten up a little bit and learn to enjoy moments like the one we witnessed this past Saturday a little more. That was something special and nothing can take that from us- - GO PIRATES!!

Posted by: Student1 Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:02 PM
Adult former ECU Student and the rest of you negative brow beating hypocrites. Everyone has made a mistake sometime in his or her life that they are not proud of. If I looked into your closet what would I find?….remember you don’t walk on water either. Whatever happened to understanding, forgiveness, or learning from your mistakes? Let it go, it was an unfortunate situation, but whether you are an ECU Students, Family Member of a student or employee or a Proud Supports we are bigger than the fighting amongst our self’s that I am reading in these comments. I am more ashamed of what I am reading than what happened on the field

Posted by: Baby G on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:57 PM
I'm not a student and I stormed the field. Plus, That 10k is going out in one check and coming right back to ECU. This is all a PR thing. Get a grip folks

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:51 PM
I think this article proves who was wrong in this situation. The students were told to not rush the field and because of their actions Greenville has earned a bad reputation and so had ECU. While I think A FEW SELECT police officers handle this situation in the wrong way, it wouldn't have taken place if students had done what they were told not to do. Now thanks to this, ECU may lose the opportunity to host football games. As a current ECU student I am embarassed by this whole situation. And just so everyone knows, not all ECU students are irresponsible, drunks, and not focused on their academic studies. I go to ECU because they have the best nursing program in the entire state. I work hard for the grades I maintain and I would appreciate it if people didn't sum up all ECU students as party animals.

Posted by: Melvin Location: Morgantown, WV on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Adult-What property was damaged? Dude I was on the field and it was all just a celebration. It will not happen again. All we wanted to do was let the world know we were for real and rub it in WVU's face a little bit. If the cops would not have acted as they did, this would have been last weeks news. C-USA is doing this to reenforce to the pirate nation not to do it again. It was unsafe, but so is driving. They will make a ruling and it will all blow over. Everyone just needs to chill...We are not the first team to storm the field. Up here, they burn couches when WVU wins. No flames in Greenville, just a bunch of people who claim to be fans.

Posted by: Student Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:42 PM
This whole thing is so laughable and sad at the same time. Let’s look at the facts. 1. an announcement was made not to enter the field 2. Not all students entered the field 3. Everyone on the field was NOT a student 4. This is a new rule as of June 2008, how many of you knew that, I would gather 99% did not know, so get real. 5. Not all those on the field were dangerous 6. Skip and the Sports Person can’t recall her name was being pushed around ending up with the sports person on the ground by those out of control 7. Skip calls WVA coach to apologize 8. USA Conference fines ECU 10 large ones 9. Some of those that were there to protect us ended up abusing some of the fans 10. Same Song Second Verse………this is not going to go away anytime soon…….What a black eye for ECU.

Posted by: sassyecu Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:40 PM
Random question back in 1999 or 2000 when ECU played state at home and the students charged the field and tore down the goal post were we fined?

Posted by: witness Location: greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:35 PM
Now everyone that is crying over this what will you say when the SBI clears anyone from wrong doing? Will you say they are puppets as well, or will you bring in the FBI?

Posted by: Think Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:31 PM
Hey Bernie, unlike you I can admit that I had a typo on the "let's not be honest" of my statement. It should have read "let's be honest" plus you also decided now that there is video of them on the field like you stated that they weren't. Your position changed to no harm no foul. I didn't know the policy but it is funny that you know the other conference policies but not the policy of the conference your team is in! I didn't have to know the policy to hear the announcement over the PA. It seems like it's the police fault and now it's this "crappy" conference's fault. How about the students take responsiblity for their direct disobedience of being told not to go out there and police take responsiblity for their actions. People asked for the SBI and here they are. So if they find no fault is it then going to being the cops fault, then the conference's fault and the the SBI's fault? Whether the rule is stupid or not, it's there. Just do what your told!

Posted by: John Location: Ayden on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Lets pay the fine and move on. Lets let this dog and lye and start putting our efforts back into supporting this team.

Posted by: Truth of the Matter Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:08 PM
ECU Police were in charge of organizing the different police/security agencies for the game. Before the game officers from different agencies were briefed on what expectations/responsibilities were for the game safety/security. Despite what Conference USA policies may be regarding fan access to the field, it is unreasonable to ask a handful of officers standing in the end zone to stop a frenzied crowd of people wanting to storm the field. ECU Police dropped the ball logistically when they planned security for the game. The videos show some officers made poor decisions. However, the first poor decision they made was to go along with someone's ludicrous plan to ask ten officers to stop a mob of young, determined, excited fans. The whole situation was a recipe for disaster. Because ECU police officers are not seen putting their hands on fans does not mean police administration are void of liability for poor planning. GO PIRATES!!

Posted by: bill Location: ecu on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:02 PM
i hope conf USA kicks us out, nobody wants to be in this embarrasing conference anyway. their rules are idiotic

Posted by: Bernie Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:45 PM
been there done that you do not know what you are talking about. I never said they were off the field. That was a quote from the WVU coach.

Posted by: Bernie Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:39 PM
To Bell, Bingo!!

Posted by: Adult former ECU student Location: Washington on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:38 PM
I attended ECU and this kind of student/alumnus behavior is childish. If you purchase a ticket and sit in your sit you would not have a problem. The law enforcement officers are doing their job. Celebrating a win is possible without destroying property and endangering players, coaches and other spectators. The university should have a strict policy on this stupid behavior of rushing the field. If the Beaufort County Pirate Club wishes to celebrate then do it in a responsible way, grow up and don't expect other fans to support your irresponsible behavior. You bought a ticket for a seat at the game, so go sit in the seat and quit being a nuisance and embarressment.

Posted by: Bernie Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:37 PM
Hey Think. I know the other conference policies. So what. No whining here. Why don't you want to be honest??? ("WVU was still on the field and let's not be honest I am sure there is more to the bullet points on the WV paper then they are saying")I say no harm no foul. Did you know about this rule before the game?

Posted by: Allie on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Ha ... to you idiots who said the students should or COULD go on the field... bite off a peice of this from the above article. I told you that you were idiots from the get go. "The announcement comes on the same day that the university was fined $10,000 for allowing fans on the field after the game. Conference USA says that is a violation of its sportsmanship policy."

Posted by: purple and gold fan Location: greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:21 PM
For all of you criticizing the pirate nation for celebrating a great win ... take a look at yourselves - are you a true ECU fan? The rule about charging the field is so stupid. How could any school or conference(CUSA) for that matter expect people to abstain from celebrating with their team after such a huge win (the 2nd BIG win for the Pirates this season!). I think its time for ECU to get the heck out of C-USA. We obviously can compete with the "big dogs". GO PIRATES!!

Posted by: Ashley Location: Washington on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Pay the tab...and beat the mess out of every team this year. We need to trash the rest, win the Conference Championship, take a major bowl, and go shopping for a conference that doesn't treat us like crap. That ridiculous fine is equivalent to 182 tickets at $55 bucks a piece...I say put in another 182 seats and tell C-USA to stick it.

Posted by: lol Location: gvegas on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:17 PM
the way i read it is that we can rush the field as long as the ref and opposing team has left the field. I guess Houston will have to hustle up and run back to the field house on our next victory

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:10 PM
I clearly thing the police were in the wrong, but on the other hand maybe ECU students will listen to the rules like they should have in the first place.

Posted by: what ever happens... on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:03 PM
I think that it is a situation that needs to be addressed, and if there was a violation, then ecu needs to adhere. this is still no excuse for the beatins and what all happened. I sure hope that there is more security next time, and the students listen...this all was a hard lesson, and embarrassing for our Pirate Nation.

Posted by: ltp on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:47 PM
I am pretty sure they won't contest this fine since someone at ECU probably requested it. It is all a cleaver plan to make it look like the fans were wrong and the Nazis on the field were right. Please we are not that stupid. Better plans need to be put in place so it won't be called rushing the field. Stop trying to vilify the fans and get on with whatever farse investigation that is going on. Conference USA already made a decision what's taking so long with the ECU investigation?

Posted by: Bell Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:43 PM
What's so pathetic about this is that I don't even think the conference would have responded with a fine if not for the overreaction of the police and the ensuing media buzz. Thanks a lot Rent-a-Cops!

Posted by: Pirate fan Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:42 PM
I think it's ironic, that Deputy, who posts below, can't spell "field". The biggest problem was the many of the "deputies" at the game couldn't use any common sense. They were NOT told to keep people off the field at all cost. For all those who keep posting below as if "drunk students" were all that were on the field, you either did not look around or were not there at all. There were parents, administrator's kids, small children and grandparent's on that field congratulating our players. I have a different take....If law enforcement, particularly the Pitt County Sheriff's Dept who were in front of sections 12-17, had not reacted the way they did and actually followed directions, then this would not have escalated and been shown over and over and over, all over the country. When Rutgers rushed the field twice last year on national television, there was no incident, only celebration.

Posted by: Josh Location: Roper on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Does anyone else find it hillarious that C-USA felt compelled to adopt this rule?.?.How many times have C-USA teams accomplished the feats that ECU has in just the last two weeks. Maybe it IS time to look for a new conference. Somewhere that we don't have to always wait for a miracle in order to get to a good bowl. Perhaps a conference where our closest rival was closer that 4-5 states away.

Posted by: Sam Location: Williamston on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:36 PM
First of all, West Virginia's team and coaches were off of the field before this happened. Second of all C-USA is full of (deleted) with the fact that they are just tryin to take that kind of money away from ECU just b/c the students have had the chance of a lifetime and something to celebrate. SD is right about ECU getting singled out like they always do. For all I care that comittee and the Kinston officer that broke my cousins arm with excessive force can go to hell. They are ruining everything for ECU. How about the officer come to me . I want him fired and he should not be a law officer.

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Posted by: been there done that Location: g vegas on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:21 PM
Bernie you are wrong, they were not off the field, if you go to youtube you can see in several videos wv players walking through the crowd of students, check it out before you say to much

Posted by: whatever Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:15 PM
I hope they rush the field after every single win from this point forward. Beat a top 10 team at home, but don't rush the field!!! Whatever. They didn't rush after beating UNC on a last second FG last year. It's not like it happens every win, but now I hope it does. I say run out and celebrate every time you get the chance. Forget hosting the Championship game, go win it on the road

Posted by: just don't get it Location: greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:12 PM
That's why people should not rush to judgement. LEO was just trying to enforce the rules and protect the players and officials on the field. I guess the people who came on the field cost ECU!!

Posted by: LOL Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Here's a hint.....bigger fence! Maybe electric? When are ECU fans going to learn that rules are there for a purpose???

Posted by: Think Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:04 PM
Hey Bernie, believe it or not I am sure C-USA reviewed the full video and fined ECU because WVU was still on the field and let's not be honest I am sure there is more to the bullet points on the WV paper then they are saying. Skip admitted that the students were out of line to Coach Stewart by calling an aplogizing. We just need to admit that the students were wrong and stop whining about why can someone else do it and we can't. Have you reviewed the other conference's policies on this matter?

Posted by: jackson Location: kinston on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:04 PM
I would not be surprised if Holland called c-usa and asked for the fine to prove a point. I have never heard of such a rule. We need to get out of Loser I mean Conference USA. We did better when we were independent. The bowls that conference usa puts us in suck anyway. After it was all said and done ECU received 30K profit for the Hawaii Bowl. Other cost the University money. Unless you go to one of the big 4 Most universities lose money.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:57 PM
It appears that the rule being enforced was enacted just this year. If and when ECU is blessed to have a "bowl" year, specifically a BSC at large (even though it may be a long shot), Conference USA schools benefit from ECU or it's conference peers' success. The arguement was never whether ECU fans inappropriately entered the field, it was whether law enforcement used excessive force. Conference USA's decision does not undermine LCSD pseudo investigation.

Posted by: SD Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:51 PM
This sanction would be fair if it was enforced at all universities each time a "field rush" occurred, but clearly this is not the case. ECU has been singled out and penalized unfairly. With the backing of the Pirate Nation, I highly encourage Steve Ballard, Terry Holland, and Skip Holtz to further investigate this sanction and appeal. Please do not just sweep this under the rug and pay the fine. Step up and defend our Pirate Nation! These kids that rushed the field had no harmful intentions and no one was injured. Even the West Virginia coach said he got his players out of there and no harmful incident occurred. Please fight this!!!

Posted by: George Hackafan Location: ACC on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:47 PM
When is Holtz going to make a public statement? He doesn't have to be silenced by anyone, he can coach anywhere in the country now. I want to hear from him once and for all. Storm the field or not!! Plus let ECU handle their own security from now on. LEOs enjoy the time off. The only thing the ACC wants from ECU is the coach.

Posted by: ECU '02 Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:36 PM
If this were any other school... this would not be making headlines. This is BS!

Posted by: Josh Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:31 PM
OK,so now we see the real reason for the mess. ECU told the police to stop fans from coming onto the field because of this rule.The Police were once again just doing their jobs, and when dealing with drunk and disorderly students who dont comply , the officers must resort to hand techniques, such as takedowns, knee strikes, and punches. I support the officers on this one, students today have no discipline, I should know I teach them.

Posted by: fred on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:30 PM
I hope they take your student tickets away you morons

Posted by: Talon Location: NC on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:25 PM
Listen to 'em squeal. oh oH OHHHHHH yeahhhhhh.

Posted by: ECU_Student Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:24 PM
First off to all those blaming the students....Not all the people on the field were students and a large majority stayed in the stands...So stop blaming all the students..... As for CUSA its time to get out. I say Southern Miss, UCF, and ECU pull out then the conference will have nothing left.

Posted by: ecu fan on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:15 PM
If you are going to say something negative about ECU at least learn how to spell. Team is t-e-a-m not taem. Anyway, other schools do the same thing. Why punish us? Way to go ECU...a GREAT WIN!!!!

Posted by: Geez Location: NC on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Who makes up these rules???

Posted by: ?????? Location: Williamston on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:10 PM
THe first sign of being able to tell the difference between children and adults>>> Adults listen to rules and regulations. Way to go fans. If you say it fast $10,000.00 is not that much !!!

Posted by: Bernie Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Why was ECU fined????? WVU coach says they were off the field. Stewart said he got a call from East Carolina coach Skip Holtz Tuesday apologizing for the behavior of fans who ran on the field after ECU's 24-3 win over the Mountaineers Saturday. ECU police are investigating charges that police officers assaulted several students. Stewart said it was the first he'd heard of any of it because he and the team were already off the field. "There are some good guys in the business,'' Stewart said. "Skip Holtz is one of them.''

Posted by: EC10RET Location: NC on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Don't wake me up. I must be dreaming. Thanks for trying to prevent this, Lenoir Co. Sheriff's Office, KPD, GPD, PSCO, Winterville PD, and ECUPD. Next game I'd suggest ya'll carry 10lb cannisters of pepper spray to make sure ECU doesn't get anymore fines and sanctions. It's a shame the team and coaches had their victory stained with this sanction, but you guys tried to prevent it. I'm sorry the public turned on you like a pack of wolves. All of you cops and deputies deserve an apology, but you'll never get one from Pirate Nation, they'll just keep attacking you. It's a shame, but that's just the way it is.

Posted by: Deputy Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:01 PM
Student supporter... we are not talking about all crimial activity in and around greenville the topic is the events at saturdays game and there after. Being you brought it up yes there is alot of crime around the greenville area but if citizens just turn there head and dont get the right people in office to stop letting crimials out before I can leave the jail then the problem will always be here.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:00 PM
Pllleeeaaaasssse! Gimme a break. I think any conference that will play games on Sunday, Tues, or Wed night needs to be fined for being an opportunist.

Posted by: bigfruitbasket Location: NC on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:52 PM
What happens if ECU doesn't pay the fine? Kick the school out of C-USA? Good! Please, Chancellor Ballard, don't pay the fine. We want out of C-USA.

Posted by: JP on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Who on earth does this chicken little conference (use your imagination) think it is? A fine and sanctions for a field celebration? Give me a break! I was at the University of Virginia/Florida State game in Charlottesville, VA. back in 2005 when UVA was the first ACC team to beat Florida State. Not only did the fans to onto the field to celebrate but the goal posts came down as well. The ACC did not take any action against UVA for this. This happens at every school after a big win. It's time for the Pirate to show they are a force to be reckened with on and off the field. Perhaps they should look at joining the ACC. (Get Rutgers in there and you would have a conference with a team in every major television market from Miami to Boston) and the Pirates would be in a worthy conference with money.

Posted by: Student Supporter on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Bernie, Here is an article from WVU head coach talking about the students rushing the field. Stewart said he got a call from East Carolina coach Skip Holtz Tuesday apologizing for the behavior of fans who ran on the field after ECU's 24-3 win over the Mountaineers Saturday. ECU police are investigating charges that police officers assaulted several students. Stewart said it was the first he'd heard of any of it because he and the team were already off the field. "There are some good guys in the business,'' Stewart said. "Skip Holtz is one of them.'' http://wvgazette.com/Sports/WVU/200809090774

Posted by: bruce Location: williamston on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM
its not the ECU's fault the law enforcment used unneeded force to try and keep fans bak

Posted by: Yes thank you students Location: winterville on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM
for proving that ECU has some of the most undisciplined students around! Keep rushing the field, then there won't be any concern about police around the field because there won't be any more home games--great job!

Posted by: Wendy Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM
So, when are other conferences going to start this with their schools who have students who rush the field. Just another "bring down ECU" action. Not all students who attend the games are drunk. If you watch some videos posted on wral and other sites, all you see is the students running around congratulating the football players and coaches. They left the WVA players alone the best I could tell. Rushing the field with a win like that should have been EXPECTED. This happens all the time for schools with big wins.

Posted by: Bernie Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I would like to hear from West Virginia. Were any of their players hurt or injured??? I think not.

Posted by: idiots on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:30 PM
GOOD JOB STUDENTS AND OTHERS!!! WAY TO GO!! NEXT TIME LISTEN TO WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO STAY OF THE FIELD!!! I hope they do suspend hosting privileges next time it happens.

Posted by: Luanne Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:21 PM
This is BS!

Posted by: bigfruitbasket Location: NC on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:19 PM
This is a ridiculous fine. You have got to be kidding. I hear the Big East or the ACC would be interested in having ECU as a member. Conference USA SUCKS anyway. Did C-USA fine ECU when the fans rushed the floor in Minges when they beat NC State in basketball last year?

Posted by: Student Supporter Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Deputy, Case and point is every other news article that comes about describing the violence and criminal activity that is a part of Greenville. Thank you students of ECU for continuing to provide the economic growth this town needs.

Posted by: Chris Location: RR on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:15 PM
It's a shame the school is going to get fined because of a bunch of people that can't behave themselves and follow the rules. The police officers that are being investigated were just trying to do their job. Stay off the field!!!!!

Posted by: Riverrat Location: Washington on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Way to go students - your lack of self control has just cost your school $10 grand.

Posted by: EC10RET Location: NC on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM
See. Told ya.

Posted by: been there done that Location: g vegas on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM
good, it should have been 10.000 for each student, lets see what the pirate nation has to say if this great taem can't go to a post season game because of the good drunk kiddies the police were doing what they were told to do

Posted by: Dave Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Amazingly this Banowsky fellow doesn't seem to be more then a robot. These kids have never harmed anyone and to suggest such things is nutso. An example of overreaction by administrators. The police block the view of the game in the last few minutes and nothing is done and then they act like attack dogs on a happy bunch of unsuspecting innocents. What gives. The league and our society are over reacting.

Posted by: Christopher Location: Bath on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Man this is crazy this is just another attempt to keep the Purple and Gold down Ive seen other football teams fans do way much than this but they want to call us out this is just ridiculous they did just like any other school would do its just ashame

Posted by: Deputy Location: Greenville on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Case and point....... Stay off the feild!!! Great job Students.