Greenville City Council To Discuss Downtown Security

The pressing issue of making downtown Greenville safer at the bars and night clubs goes before city council members Monday night.

The issue has come to the forefront since the June 30th double murder outside of The Other Place night club on Fifth Street. Bar owners and city leaders started discussing what changes can be made to make the area safer immediately after the crime.

Monday night, the Greenville City Council will consider three ordinances. On the table, having clubs provide security personnel, creating a minimum separation requirement for any new clubs, to keep the area from becoming saturated with night clubs, and prohibiting clubs from hiring bouncers with certain criminal backgrounds.

We'll keep you posted on what the council decides.

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  • by Bad Business Location: Downtown on Oct 7, 2009 at 07:42 AM
    Over the last 3 years I have worked at 4 different bars that are still standing. I move when i get tired of the same crowd. I got and still receive PAYCHECKS that tax out social security and medicare and such. The bars in existence now are here because they learnt from the old bars you cant cheat the system. The one bar that does nothing by the books and consistently gets into trouble is going down anyways. 4 years ago I would see 4 or 6 fights a night. Now I see maybe 2 a month. Downtown has cleaned up its image considerably since all these fancy all knowing alumni have left. Its a different generation. The most violent weekend of the year? Homecoming. When all the big bad alumni come back and they think it is still the same.
  • by To Bad Business on Oct 7, 2009 at 05:53 AM
    So only Sunday thru Sunday do the bars force penny draft down everyones throats the othe tww days per week a whole seven cents is collected on draft beer in taxes a penny of which comes back to Greenville. While your at it lets see some accounting reports of you reporting the door money. Also your payroll reports where everyone was paid above the table and taxes, ss and medicare were paid. When these numbers are made public record I will believe you, until them bologna my friend, bologna. We all know of the numerous bars in the downtown area who were closed for tax issues. Why they weren't paying them. Not sales tax, income tax or payroll tax. The clubs ytoday are no different, they just haven't been caught.
  • by Bad Business Location: Downtown on Oct 6, 2009 at 01:29 PM
    There is only 1 bar you will find ANY DRINK for less than 2.00 on the weekends, and that is a draft beer. You will not find a liquor drink less than $3. The penny whatever is basically gone save for one bar that has their hands full at the moment and trust me... that bar will not be around much longer. They account for over 3/4 of ALL tickets given downtown. Most bars report the door proceedings as earnings and guess what, thats taxed. the city wants to raise the sin tax. GO AHEAD. It will help pay for the 20 officers that stand around drinking a red bull from 10-3am four days a week. Its not the bars that are responsible for Greenville's condition. Its drugs and bad parenting, and as someone else stated; its being committed by a specific group. College kids ride the buses downtown or walk there. They drink, and have fun, then they get back on the buses or walk home. Blocking the streets stopped 80% of the riff raff that was "cruising" the streets like it is the NYC ghetto.
  • by Neo Location: Reality on Oct 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM
    How long does this police chief get to continue to be a failure and be protected by his minority status. He needs to be fired and the rediculous charges of racism that will surely follow need to be ignored. The man is straight out of the completely ficticious "diversity is a strength" and "all people commit crimes at the same rate" utopian fool crowd. Get rid of him before these Greenville thugs grow even more accustomed to having their butts kissed instead of kicked. The longer this young african-American crime epidemic is allowed to fester, the harder it is going to be on a common sense, realistic police chief to put these thugs out of downtown and get safe streets restored in the city.
  • by To Bad Business Location: Greenville on Oct 6, 2009 at 05:51 AM
    You are wrong. You have the option to hire licensed security guards or off duty officers. The officers are actually on the clock with GPD or Pitt County or whoever you hire them from and are protected by the insurance of their employer as they are technically on the clock, they are just getting paid overtime rates as they have already woked their full time hours. Further, while I do not know the GPD rate, Pitt County officers are $30 per hour. When as stated below by a bouncer that 600 people come through the doors on any given weekend night at his bar, multiply that by $5 and you get $3,000 in money with no sales tax so that the bar can sell penny draft or liqour. Where is the tax money generated to pay for the concentration of police in the area? Off duty officers would not put the bars out of business, the inability to change and charge a reasonable price for a drink instead of encouraging underage and binge drinking will close the bars. How about facts instead of propaganda?
  • by Chris Location: Greenville on Oct 5, 2009 at 05:24 PM
    DB, Just a FYI, the Chief of Police does not "run" for his position. You can only vote to elect the city council and mayor. He is not an elected official.
  • by Citizen on Oct 5, 2009 at 04:54 PM
    A police detective told me that Greenville is the heroin capital of the southeastern United States. College students ARE NOT the problem. (I am 53). The problem is we have people in our town that prey on others, and have no conscience at all. I cannot tell you how many times I've witnessed drug transactions by grown riding aroundon bicycles. They look ridiculous. If I know drug dealing is going on, certainly the police know where it is.
  • by Bad Business Location: Downtown on Oct 5, 2009 at 03:19 PM
    To Db. I have been sitting in on these meetings for months now. I have not told you a single lie. This whole ordeal is driven by 3 members of the council i will not name. They own property downtown and it is public knowledge among ANYONE who owns property that they are trying to buy up the property to drive up the value and sell it to the school. If there is not a chance in council members in the next vote, this will go into motion and there will NOT be bars left downtown Greenville. And the ones that do will be forking out 4k a month to an off duty cop who won't even have to out out the trash. Yeah they force the bars an extra 4k a month in expenses. When a bar shuts down, their proposition that one bar cannot be opened up within 500' of another bar kicks in. Guess what? No bar can be built or opened in that space. The property value declines because there is no appeal for it. The bars now are grandfathered in
  • by hey db on Oct 5, 2009 at 02:55 PM
    You can't vote the chief out. But you can vote the city council out, they love him.
  • by Db on Oct 5, 2009 at 02:25 PM
    To bad business that is ridiculous like I said before they are catering to the criminal.If I knew something to do I would do it I bet the next time that chief runs for office he I never voted with him but I bet this time I will vote against him.

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