City Funding For Golf Course

While many municipalities struggle with money woes with their annual the budgets, one eastern Carolina city is using more than $935,000 to keep its city run golf course afloat.

The city of Greenville says, technically, it's not taxpayer money. But that doesn't mean tax dollars won't be used.

The city of Greenville says it uses what's known as an "enterprise fund," basically funds for fees for services, to pay for the operation of the park.

This year, the city is proposing to provide more $935,000 in the new budget through the "enterprise fund." However, when the enterprise fund isn't enough, city officials say they use money from the general fund to make up the difference. The city has done that every year it has owned the course spending $390,000 in taxpayer money during that time.

Michael Cato is the General Manager and golf professional at Bradford Creek. Cato says, "Once the golf course gets up and running and we get it going good it definitely will be a very self-sustainable asset."

The city says Bradford Creek has until 2013 to pay of the debt on the course for it to start become self-sufficient. The board votes on the budget this Thursday.

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  • by SupportLocalParks&Recs Location: Greenville on Jun 11, 2009 at 06:08 AM
    Bradford Creek is an awesome course for the price. It is one of the nicest municipal courses I've ever played. They have struggled in the last 5-6 years but they have the best greens in Eastern NC, even better than the country clubs around here. I agree with the others on here. Why doesn't the city buy the debt from the course? That is just common sense. Keep up the good work guys!
  • by Cactus Location: Strabane on Jun 10, 2009 at 04:47 PM
    ACE, I would rather play golf with the "homeless" than people like you. You called me out when you used the term "poor".
  • by Stop your whining Location: Greenville, NC on Jun 10, 2009 at 03:04 PM
    What business isn't struggling? Bradford Creek is a nice course for the money. Most people aren't going to be able to afford BVCC or GCC or Ironwood and most aren't willing to drive to play Ayden. Everyone and everything is suffering right now but if we throw our hands up and give up then why ever invest in anything? People in this city are always going to complain about something. If they only lost $390000 over 10 years, I say that is pretty darn good considering.
  • by Am I missing something Location: Washington on Jun 10, 2009 at 01:58 PM
    Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between the state of North Carolina buying Grandfather Mountain for 12 million dollars and the city of Greenville buying a golf course for almost 1 million dollars. Both cases are using state tax payer money (no matter what the city of Greenville says.) and yet everyone was in an uproar about the buying and creating of a new state park in Grandfather mountain (Which had been in the works for at least a year or more.). But no one is the least bit upset at Greenville buy a golf course. I think both purchases are wasteful spending of North Carolina tax dollars.
  • by Steve Location: City Hall on Jun 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM
    Just so that the story is a bit clearer...the City is not paying $935,000 per year for Bradford Creek AND $39,000 (average). The roughly $390,000 since 1999 covers the difference between money brought in by the course (greens fees, clubhouse rental, lessons, equipment for sale, driving range, etc.) and the cost of operations - including debt service.
  • by what? Location: greenville on Jun 10, 2009 at 12:13 PM
    The aquatics center loses $1,000,000 per year? How do you come up with that figure Stacey? No offense to you, but I think it sounds like another number that nut-job guy with an ax to grind made up to rile people up. It's nice to have a decent, open golf course you don't have to pay $50 or $60 a round or be a member of to play...especially if you only play a couple of times a year. Bradford is a bargain.
  • by jeffrey Location: grennville on Jun 10, 2009 at 08:48 AM
    i have played Ironwood,and love it.but the member there look down there nose at non member.we play fast butif you hold them up for 5min,they call in. I shot98 most of the time.i try not to push golfer in front of me. it cost to much to play like """".we all try to get better,but it hard when some ahole member,think they own the golf course .we all are trying to have fun.i play 1 time every two weeks. it hard when you push us that will just take longer to play around,but when i do pay for that day I AM A MEMBER. for the non member TRY CTTONVALLY it is very nice 35.00
  • by terry on Jun 10, 2009 at 07:58 AM
    both the aquatic center and the golf course lose more money than you think there is no overhead assigned to these facilities when in fact there should be a 35% charge to each by the city's own calculations- this makes the loss even more--- sell em or close em down
  • by Whoa! on Jun 10, 2009 at 06:43 AM
    Good call Stacey! My taxes help fund the money loosing Aquatics centre that I don't frequent. However, I do see the need for such a facility. The Gov't is not in business. Therefore it does not need to make a profit. It does need to be self sustainable which Bradford Creek would be if they didn't have such a financial burden to repay the City. The Aquatic Centre looses more money than Bradford, but I won't complain.
  • by Apparently brains aren't needed to be a city council member Location: Greenville, NC on Jun 10, 2009 at 06:21 AM
    How can anyone expect the city council members to make good decisions? Does anyone remember one particular council member asking in a meeting, "Where is the information superhighway going to connect with 264?" The golf course could become a great asset for the city. It could be making money for the community if the administration knew anything about business which the course needs to be run like one. The smartest thing would be to pay off whatever loan they still have. Honestly $390,000 isn't that bad over a 10 year period. If the loan was paid off they would have made much more than that. That is an asset not many cities can say they have.
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