PCS Phosphate's New Sulfur Plans Come At High Cost

As PCS Phosphate continues to educate concerned residents about its proposed sulfur melting plans, the company says the cost of its second option for a new facility is $75 million more than planned.

The Washington Daily News reports PCS Phosphate's current proposal to turn the company's property in Aurora into a sulfur-melting facility could cost $170 million. The company's original plans to build the plant at the state port in Morehead City was going to cost $95 million.

The report says PCS Phosphate has sent postcards to 60,000 people in Beaufort and Carteret Counties about the "Beaufort County Sulfur Project."

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PCS Phosphate has released new details on its website about its plans to build new facilities in Beaufort and Carteret Counties.

Public protest to the original proposal to build the sulfur melting facility in Morehead City led to PCS Phosphate dropping the proposal. Since then, leaders have shifted their focus to Aurora for a possible building location.

PCS Phosphate says the potential project at the port could include a new ship unloader and conveying systems designed for solid sulfur handling. The project would also feature an enclosed sulfur storage warehouse and a new barge loading system designed for solid sulfur handling.

For more information, visit http://sulfurproject.com.

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  • by janice on Oct 18, 2011 at 03:45 PM
    aurora is a very sad town it is a dead town where do we go from here..give us some time maybe there is a chance what do youall think .. pcs you can have it buy the town and dig,dig,dig ok
  • by Tarheel on Oct 8, 2011 at 03:47 AM
    http://core.ecu.edu/geology/woods/gwwhydrology.htm: "The sudden drop in water levels installed in the Castle Hayne in 1965 corresponded to the Aurora operation coming on line. About 65 million gal/day were withdrawn from this confined aquifer to reduce artesian pressure, thereby facilitating dewatering of the overlying phosphate ore beds. This permitted dry pit mining. Water levels in the Castle Hayne have declined by at least 5 feet and by more than 150 feet over an area of 1300 square miles in response to this pumping."
  • by Ethel Location: BC on Oct 7, 2011 at 05:49 AM
    Well, if PCS is so great, why the Indy 500 each morning and afternoon to and from Aurora? Why have a ferry? Why don't more folks save gas and live closer to their great benefactor? Because it's a mine! And now, they'll have to live next to a sulphur plant, too! Yippee! Isn't there a correlation between the fall of Aurora and the beginning of PCS? Why is Bellhanven so cool? No mine next to it.
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      by James on Oct 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM in reply to Ethel
      Honestly not to put down Aurora because the land around there is beautiful, but most people like to live closer to civilization, hospitals, etc. If the area grew up a little more people would probably move that way.
  • by tarheel Location: nc on Oct 6, 2011 at 07:00 PM
    Maybe the water smells of sulfur now because PCS pumps our ground water away. How many wells in eastern nc have gone dry or bad in the last 25 years? We continue to sell our souls for a few more yankee dollars.
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      by Obama Snake Oil Co on Oct 7, 2011 at 06:23 AM in reply to tarheel
      Incorrect, why do people make up stuff and post it here where they are subject to the ridicule they deserve? The water table is effected by the Water District here, not anything to do with PCS. The water here across the river from PCS, on the coast has always smelled of sulfur. Even Fayetteville NC, the water smelled like sulfur until we went off the well. Nice observation there, sparky.
  • by Fact Dog Location: Nc on Oct 6, 2011 at 03:35 PM
    A sulfur plant is very dangerous .The fumes from the plant can and will kill;it does not desegregate.May GOD help you if you live nere it.Their goes all of your property values; down the drain.
  • by James Location: Beaufort County on Oct 6, 2011 at 10:23 AM
    I just want to say that I am proud to be a river rat from "smelly" Beaufort County who loves spending my time on the beautiful "polluted" Pamlico River! I am very thankful for Potash Corp. which employs my father, and husband who are both locals and not from Canada...can't help but laugh at that one. To get back on topic, building a plant in Morehead would be a positive producing many needed jobs.
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      by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 12:31 PM in reply to James
      Not even PCS has ever claimed to bring "many" jobs to Morehead City, a grand total of 18 new jobs is what they claimed which is fewer than even Bojangles or McDonalds. Yet the cost to the neighboring residents and businesses would be devastating. As I've said before, nobody wants PCS in Morehead City except for PCS and those they have in their pocket. Your post clearly supports that statement.
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        by Obama Snake Oil Co on Oct 6, 2011 at 03:29 PM in reply to No to PCS!
        Thats just the plant workers and does not include the support workers. Unless you know something about running a company, best not to post that "common nonsensical hooey" based on conjecture. Really, it makes us look like we know that business. All I can say, they have been good neighbors on the Pamlico. Unless you can point out some mishap, I ain't buying it. Devastating was electing democrats to government. Look around...10% in NC unemployed and you worry about a smell? Well, that smell is not allowed, that is why scrubbers are being used. Get educated and not post like the sheep here. Really...makes you sound like you have to save the world from...I don't know...
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        by . on Oct 6, 2011 at 03:49 PM in reply to No to PCS!
        For each job opening there will be 10 people applying. Only 18 will get those jobs, but that will be 18 people who will be off of unemployment and able to support their families.
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      by me on Oct 6, 2011 at 04:44 PM in reply to James
      Potash employs your 'husband', James? Did you marry around here?
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        by James on Oct 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM in reply to me
        Wow, I'm a woman who has the nickname James. Sue me.
  • by Smarter-n-u Location: Mo-head on Oct 6, 2011 at 05:40 AM
    Thank goodness we might have some good jobs around here, rather than wrapping mullets in newspaper and washing dishes for yankees. It's about time we open our eyes and move forward, we need the jobs and the tax base it brings. I hope Ole BEV doesn't let this one slip away.
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      by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 07:46 AM in reply to Smarter-n-u
      I don't think anyone in Morehead City is dumb enough to believe that the handful of jobs that PCS might bring (and I emphasize "might" as most jobs they may have will be brought in from out of town or Canada) is worth loosing home values, quality of life, the environment, and all the other facets of living in Morehead City that will suffer as a result of our downtown being turned into the center of a toxic industrial area. The only people who want this are PCS and the people they have "in their pocket". Why else did they conduct all planning in secret? Why do they continue to hold meetings with city officials behind closed doors without even the press to witness? Surely if they thought the residents of Morehead City would be in favor of whatever they are discussing, they would want us to know about it, wouldn't they?
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        by Obama Snake Oil Co on Oct 6, 2011 at 08:46 AM in reply to No to PCS!
        Shouldn't you kids be hugging a tree or saving a turtle somewhere? You can go to NYC and participate in Days of Rage protesting..the price of brocoli! PCS has been good to ENC. Sorry, facts support them being good neighbors and not doing anything wrong to our waters. Nothing, nodda..you simply have no facts to support your rubbish.
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          by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 09:38 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Here you go again diverting off topic again. The facts are clear: PCS, with the assistance of key individuals in the state and local governments, attempted to sneak in a sulfur smelting plant with 150' smoke stacks into the middle of a small town literally feet from residential and vacation homes and businesses. It's also a fact that no where in this country has a similar facility ever been built in such close proximity to homes, schools and local businesses. These are the facts. The other points you make are irrelevant and baseless.
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          by Obama Snake Oil Co on Oct 6, 2011 at 10:49 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          So they snuck it in when they announced it for Morehead City? The snuck it in when they applied for permits that have to be publically displayed. You have no facts as you have no idea what that company will go through to smelt sulfur in todays new EPA regs. Elemental Sulfur, also known as Brimstone in its natural state, has been recognized for thousands of years. It is a non-metallic element, S on the periodic chart, with an atomic number of 16. Follow the history of sulfur from biblical times to today, noting the technological leaps in production, and the various processing methods available. Sulfur uses affect our daily lives in everything from automobile tires to veterinary medicinal salves. The familiar rotten egg odor in drinking water is a result of minute releases of hydrogen sulfide gas. In its pure state, sulfur is odorless and has many beneficial properties.
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          by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 11:12 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Thank you for making my point for me. The entire permit and approval process was supposed to be conducted in public but wasn't. I won't re-hash the entire chain of events which have already been documented in both the Carteret and Raleigh papers, but it was purely by luck that the public learned about the PCS plan before ground was broken. To date, no official investigation has ever been conducted nor their findings released. I'm also fully aware of what sulfur is as well as how it reacts in the presence of heat as well as other liquids and gases. But it doesn't take a PhD in chemistry to understand that if a company is required to build 150 foot stacks with scrubbers, there's something toxic resulting from the sulfur smelting process. Visit cleancounty.org and read some of the articles written on the subject.
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          by Anonymous on Oct 6, 2011 at 01:34 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          Thanks for making my point, you give me a tree hugger site to look at and what do I find; Mission Statement: To prevent the establishment of industry in Carteret County which could potentially have negative ecologic, economic, and environmental impacts on our community or deleterious health or safety effects on our citizens. Well, you pretty much covered all industry everywhere. I guess selling driftwood would still be OK..Yep, they did stories...not factual ones since no one else supports or reports on this...just they heard about it and went after any and all industry...yeah, thats objective...
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          by me on Oct 6, 2011 at 04:46 PM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
          brimstone? Isn't that what you have in HELL?
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      by Anonymous on Oct 6, 2011 at 08:24 AM in reply to Smarter-n-u
      Sure, can't wrap mullets when all the mullets are dead.
  • by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 03:55 AM
    Go to David Horton's website ( hortonformayor.wordpress.com ) and read his account of how the existing mayor and a handful of local officials knew about PCS's plans for Morehead City way back in January but kept that information from their constituents until it finally made the news late this Summer. Were laws broken to give PCS those permits? Likely, and but very clearly the existing Mayor and his cronies violated countless ethics standards. PCS Phosphate is no friend of Carteret County nor anywhere else they set up camp. They are spending stacks of money to deceive and confuse the residents here. This November's election could very well determine whether Morehead City continues to be a haven for fishermen and beach lovers, or a toxic waste dump.
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      by Obama Snake Oil Co on Oct 6, 2011 at 09:32 AM in reply to No to PCS!
      When you finish 6th grade, we'll talk, in the meantime consider learning about details first rather than posting what you heard. Some of us didn't forget that PCS gave 250 thousand to victims of Irene...how much did you give? How much did you help out?
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        by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 10:42 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
        No, I haven't forgotten when PCS announced they were giving money to the victims of Irene, although the timing of their generosity is questionable, especially since they have already announced that moving the facility elsewhere will cost them $75 million and they've surely spent several times $250K in advertising to clean up their "stinky" image. Again, the issue at hand is where PCS wants to build their sulfur facility. One Canadian corporation stands to earn less money if they have to build it elsewhere, while many tens of thousands of residents, home owners, and business owners stand to loose their homes, incomes and way of life if they don't. This is not a "tree hugger" issue, it is an issue that involves corporate and government corruption that, if unabated, will ruin an entire community.
  • by Obama Snake Oil Co Location: Washington on Sep 14, 2011 at 09:51 AM
    ah men, the point is I get tired of these poster posting nonsense on these subjects. Are they aware of how hard it is to get a plant started in the US with the EPA, wildlife and other agencies? This is why jobs went to China, since they were so over regulated here companies threw up their arms in frustration. Then they tell us it was so they could make more money and cheap labor. Well, its not that easy training someone from China to do an experienced workers job. I know of two pharmaceutical companies and one material manufacturing company that had no choice but to go there. The fines were eating them up. I'll tell you what stinks, when the president couldn't get the cap and trade bill to pass, he just assigned it to the EPA to just do it. The rest he gave to green jobs like tadpole counters and shrimp treadmill observers.
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      by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 04:00 AM in reply to Obama Snake Oil Co
      You're clouding the issue and diverting the subject: The issue is whether toxic off product producing heavy industry should be allowed to be conducted in the middle of an area where people live, fish, play and raise their children. This was a bad idea from the start. PCS knew it, the state knew it, as did Mayor Jerry Jones and a handful of his cronies. That's why they kept the plans secret for months before it finally broke in the news. Does the US need phosphates? Absolutely, but nobody's arguing that. Should sulfur be smelted in the middle of Morehead City, just a few yards from restaurants, homes, recreational marinas, etc. etc.? ABSOLUTELY NOT! GO AWAY PCS, SHAME ON YOU FOR TRYING TO "SNEAK" YOUR WAY INTO OUR COMMUNITY!
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        by ? on Oct 6, 2011 at 07:59 AM in reply to No to PCS!
        Wow, paranoid much, you do realize that all those people you talk about produce just as much if not more toxic waste then melting sulfur would, its simple science (I know taboo word there). The port already stinks to high heaven from the fish and common waste all those restaurants, homes, recreational marinas produce, even if there was a smell you wouldn’t be able to smell it over all the other stinking mess that those things produce. And for the record, I’ve melted sulfur before and it smells for a whole two seconds before it dissipates, so could you people actually see how sulfur is melted in person before you start screaming up a storm about how much something stinks, geez you’re worse then those idiots protesting on Wall Street.
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          by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 09:41 AM in reply to ?
          So you honestly believe that a home or restaurant produces as much toxic waste as a sulfur smelting plant that processes millions of tons of sulfur annually? Or is that what PCS pays you to believe?
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          by ? on Oct 6, 2011 at 10:43 AM in reply to ?
          Pays Me! HA! That would be nice! Wow, because that wasn't predictable. And actually yes, I do know that the amount of people that go through those restaurants in an entire year does produce the same amount if not more toxic waste, you have to factor in everything though not just food waste. Let's see along with food waste you have sewage waste, vehicle runoff, non-biodegradable trash, air pollution, I could go on, but I hope you get the picture. Don’t even get me started with places that don’t follow the proper waste management guidelines, because that's twice as worse. But that’s just restaurants, now you need to add in all those marinas and homes, with all of that included it easily outweighs whatever waste that a small sulfur smelting plant could produce. The only thing I do disagree with is the possibility of underhanded tactics they may have used to get their plant approved, which if it's true then they shouldn’t be allowed to build anything or even be allowed to be in this state.
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        by . on Oct 6, 2011 at 08:54 AM in reply to No to PCS!
        So the US needs phosphates, just not produced in your town. Quit using anything with phosphates then. They already took it out of our dishwasher detergent because of the tree huggers. I have fished, swam and played in the Pamlico all of my life and have had not ill effects from it and I have no problem letting my child swim in the Pamlico. We live on the north side of the river and actually prefer to take our boat to the south side (where PCS is located) because the water is cleaner. I'll be glad to take you on a boat ride and show you the difference.
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          by No to PCS! on Oct 6, 2011 at 09:44 AM in reply to .
          Have you ever lived within a couple yards of a sulfur smelting plant? Have you ever shared a drinking water supply with a sulfur handling facility? Have you ever watched your home value drop 50-90% because a sulfur smelting plant was going to be build by your home? Do you honestly believe that the middle of a clean small town where people live, work and play is the best place to build a toxin producing facility? Or is that what PCS is paying you to say?
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          by Anonymous on Oct 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM in reply to .
          No I have never lived within a couple of yards from a sulfer smelting plant and I doubt you have either. To do so would mean you probably live in your car and sleep near the front door of the plant. If that is the case, you should apply for a job opening at the plant so you can move. And no, I do not work for PCS and they are not paying me for my comments. And if you think Morehead is clean, you should really should move anyway.
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          by Obama Snake Oil Co on Oct 6, 2011 at 03:42 PM in reply to .
          First off, No to PCS, lets correct you ignorance on the subject to get you on page. Enough is enough. Drinking water in this county has always smelled of sulfur. It naturally occuring here in our area. Ask anyone that has a well. Secondly, did you miss the scrubber part of the story or was it just me that caught it. The EPA..you heard of them? They enforce water and all kinds of breathing things...I will keep it simple for you. They make companies put very expensive scrubbers to remove the smell of the plant and any plant. They require annual recertification and testing to validate the operations or they get shut down wonder boy. I came from that industry. I know. I know people that work for it as well. So while you whine about home values let me put this to you, based on what? Theory, could be, what if? And let me tell you I don't care if you try to accuse any of us for our opine as working for them. I just might be that guy that tells them how to handle their scrubbers. I also might know people in Beaufort co that work there. You give me a link to a website that says they don't want industry here other than drift wood vendors and dock builders and they are not liberal treehuggers. Well, if it look like, smells like...don't step in it...yeah, it probably is. Scrape you shoe off before you go into the house.
  • by Ah-men on Sep 14, 2011 at 06:33 AM
    Agree with u mister snake oil
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